Culture Twitter will monitor your activity off site -

[neural]

Please, for the love of all that is good and Dewly, make Twitter use this against the knobends screaming 'die cis scum' and 'kill all men'. If that's not blatant hate speech, I dunno what is.

Optimistic, I know...

Actually, that's not very far from the truth.

We've had many cows celebrating the new abuse guidelines that will ban Nazis forever and ever from their hugbox, only for them or their friends to get suspended instead.

 

[Pistachio]

so would a thing like Ghostery stop the twitter tracking? what would you do for mobile to avoid getting banned by twitter for going to kiwi farms

 

[XYZpdq]

So if I don't like AwesomeZelda420ZZZ then I just go onto some alt right death frog page like this, make an account under that name, and then mention "my" twitter a lot?

 

[King n Yellow]

How dare Twitter do what they like with their own property! It's an outrage!

The problem is that this new policy is like Twitter saying nudity on their property will be prosecuted. Twitter then leaves their property, goes to the house of some guy they hate, peeks over their fence to see them sunbathing nude, then Twitter goes back to their property and calls the cops to report the person sunbathing nude on their front lawn.

 

[Apex Predator]

I'll admit I have no issue with them limiting the speech of Neo-nazis or people I don't agree with. But where does it end? If today they're limiting "hate speech" then tomorrow they're limiting other speech they disagree with. And then they're limiting speech I do agree with. Once you start up that path it's a slippery slope to the top and you might very well find out that your speech is now prohibited.

You 100% will find your speech is now prohibited. This is why I do have an issue with limiting the speech of Neo-nazis and other scumbags, besides actual threats. Because it's not so much a slope as a pit walled with glass. The people in charge will find absolutely any excuse to ban everything anyone has the slightest problem with. That will have a chilling effect in general. People will censor themselves beyond what the rules say because they're afraid. Support for important issues, or just having fun with friends, will fall away because no one wants to live in an atmosphere of fear.

And then they'll end up joining places like Kiwi Farms.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

You 100% will find your speech is now prohibited. This is why I do have an issue with limiting the speech of Neo-nazis and other scumbags, besides actual threats. Because it's not so much a slope as a pit walled with glass. The people in charge will find absolutely any excuse to ban everything anyone has the slightest problem with. That will have a chilling effect in general. People will censor themselves beyond what the rules say because they're afraid. Support for important issues, or just having fun with friends, will fall away because no one wants to live in an atmosphere of fear.

And then they'll end up joining places like Kiwi Farms.

That's not the point. Twatter can do whatever they want to limit these people on their platform. They are well within their rights to do so. What is wrong is they're tracking you online and seeing what else you've done. So they find out you're a member of Stormwatch and read some of your posts saying that the Jews are destroying the world. And they track you down to Youtube and see you're commenting on anti-fa protests saying that they should all be shot. And they track down your Facebook page and see you're the head of "Kill the Jews" etc. None of that should matter to Twatter but they're blocking people because of that regardless if they've broken any of Twatter's rules. That's the real issue here.

 

[XYZpdq]

This is basically what neofags did, right?

 

[UptownRuckus]

Good thing I abandoned that shit hole long ago. Twitter is cancerous garbage.

 

[Un Platano]

The problem is that this new policy is like Twitter saying nudity on their property will be prosecuted. Twitter then leaves their property, goes to the house of some guy they hate, peeks over their fence to see them sunbathing nude, then Twitter goes back to their property and calls the cops to report the person sunbathing nude on their front lawn.

It's not quite like that, in that that's a legal issue and this is not. If it were a legal issue like getting arrested for public nudity, you have consitutitonal rights. You don't have consitutional rights when using a private website (which is why it's exceptional when people say a website is restricting their right to free speech), so it's completely within their rights to ban you for whatever they feel like, and you're not in a position to dispute it.

Of course, the issue with a website abusing that condition is that if they want people to leave their website, they will. When you're a business like Twitter, your users are your customers, and you have to think long and hard about when you tell one to stop giving you money.

 

[polonium]

The problem is that this new policy is like Twitter saying nudity on their property will be prosecuted. Twitter then leaves their property, goes to the house of some guy they hate, peeks over their fence to see them sunbathing nude, then Twitter goes back to their property and calls the cops to report the person sunbathing nude on their front lawn.

No, it's like Twitter say no nudity, then they find out you like to be nude, by seeing you be nude in public, and they tell you they don't want you in their club any more. Which they're perfectly within their rights to do.

The part I have issue with is only conservative wrong think will be banned. In our example, all the loony lefties will be cavorting around naked on Twitter's lawn, shitting in the Rose bushes and pressing their ballsacks up against the window, and the conservative guy is going to get banned because his boardies are revealing too much ankle.

 

[Ruin]

Twitter is sort of like a less wordy /pol/ in that it's an asylum for the dumbest collection of exceptional individuals in the known universe. I'm against anything that kicks them out so they can infect the rest of the internet with their nonsense.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Surely this is the end of Drumphfth.

Probably, and more than likely, Twitter will turn on its "loyal" SJW userbase too. And when/if it ever happens, the salt will be glorious.

But at the same time, I'm not up for the internet's Tumblr and /pol/ rejects starting to infect everywhere else.

 

[CIA Nigger]

Probably, and more than likely, Twitter will turn on its "loyal" SJW userbase too. And when/if it ever happens, the salt will be glorious.

But at the same time, I'm not up for the internet's Tumblr and /pol/ rejects starting to infect everywhere else.

Already happening, some troons are fleeing for Mastodon instances, some bigger hugboxes than others, or at least making backup accounts on there for when they get banned.

 

[Clownfish]

The whole point of free speech is so folks can call out the bad behavior of those in office.

Any one who wants to limit speech has something to hide.

The other reason is it allows for conflict resolution. I rather have Nazis and IngSocJust be allowed to scream instead of being forced to go underground. I mean look at the internet. Got political wars on the net but it's one of words. Mostly. No free speech would mean more political unrest.

Anyone pay attention to Syria lately? Yeah there was a protest and Assad cracked down on them. What happens? Civil war. In America it allows folks to work things out verbally and work toward reform peacefully.

 

[polonium]

The whole point of free speech is so folks can call out the bad behavior of those in office.

Any one who wants to limit speech has something to hide.

The other reason is it allows for conflict resolution. I rather have Nazis and IngSocJust be allowed to scream instead of being forced to go underground. I mean look at the internet. Got political wars on the net but it's one of words. Mostly. No free speech would mean more political unrest.

Anyone pay attention to Syria lately? Yeah there was a protest and Assad cracked down on them. What happens? Civil war. In America it allows folks to work things out verbally and work toward reform peacefully.

Not to mention that sunlight is a great disinfectant. If you can't convince someone by reasoned argument and have to resort to stopping them from disagreeing with you by force, then it's a pretty huge red flag that your ideas may be full of shit.

Like that huge wall they built in Berlin to keep the evil capitalists out...

 

[Clownfish]

Not to mention that sunlight is a great disinfectant. If you can't convince someone by reasoned argument and have to resort to stopping them from disagreeing with you by force, then it's a pretty huge red flag that your ideas may be full of shit.

Like that huge wall they built in Berlin to keep the evil capitalists out...

Quality control I guess.

I am starting to think the founding fathers were cued in about something. The peeps of that era were not spergs but very socially skilled and wise.

I'm guessing they knew most folks are just talk. Let them scream. Folks will ignore them and the screamer will just vent. Rarely screamers follow up with direct action. Take away the screamer voice and now you got a person who will plot.

 

[Dynastia]

And then they'll end up joining places like Kiwi Farms.

And god knows we don't want them.

 

[Dynastia]

The whole point of free speech is so folks can call out the bad behavior of those in office.

No I just use it to call retarded people names.

 

[Dysnomia]

"You also may not affiliate with organizations that — whether by their own statements or activity both on and off the platform — use or promote violence against civilians to further their causes," the update reads.

Some BLM lunatic is going to see that and demand that cops not be allowed to post on Twitter.

That's not the point. Twatter can do whatever they want to limit these people on their platform. They are well within their rights to do so. What is wrong is they're tracking you online and seeing what else you've done. So they find out you're a member of Stormwatch and read some of your posts saying that the Jews are destroying the world. And they track you down to Youtube and see you're commenting on anti-fa protests saying that they should all be shot. And they track down your Facebook page and see you're the head of "Kill the Jews" etc. None of that should matter to Twatter but they're blocking people because of that regardless if they've broken any of Twatter's rules. That's the real issue here.

So even if all that white supremacist does is tweet mundane stuff like where he ate lunch today he can still be blocked for what he did elsewhere. What's to stop Twitter from tightening the noose more and more then? In a world where a makeup removal app=rape I cannot imagine this going anywhere good.

They shouldn't be tracking what you do elsewhere to determine the rules you are breaking on Twitter. That's like me getting banned from Rite Aid for something I did in Walmart. It doesn't make any sense and in general people don't like being tracked online.

Given Twitter's track record I doubt this will be used for anything useful like booting ISIS accounts. It's just another way for them to kick people guilty of wrongthink out of the hugbox.

That said I can't see this going over well with moderates or anyone who isn't batshit so all this is going to ultimately do is make Twitter do even worse than it's already doing.

You can probably add criticism against feminism and the social disease that transgenderism has become. If it gets too strict people will complain. I'm sure that some software will become available to block tracking though.

 

[bbpoison]

WTH! Twitter can't stalk people! That's what kiwifarms.net is for!