U.S. Riots of April 2021 over Derek Chauvin & Riot Watch General -

Neil

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He will be in a special unit with other ex cops and pedophiles.
lol he's on the same level as kiddy diddlers, that's fucking rich
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Chauvin is a small piece of the true horror of this trial. People have now learned that violence and threats work. So next time we can expect more needless rioting, murder, and arson. Why would they change tack if it already got the result they kinda wanted? Justice isn't meant to be swayed by mob rule.

You never reward bad behavior. Expect more peaceful but fiery protests. The precedent has been set. To me that's far more scary than a show trial.
You people said the same thing after Chauvin first got convicted on all counts ("There'll be riots anyway!!") but that never happened.
Wallow in the fact that a killer cop wasn't able to get away this time. Cope.
 

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Another thing that was memory holed is, Chauvin originally wanted to plead guilty and forgo a trial. His reasons aren't clear, however, we can speculate that he knew there'd be riots, there'd be destruction, and he'd probably get slapped with worse charges. However, courts denied it and here we are; Minneapolis looking like a post nuclear city.
 

Gypsymagic

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You can't win with the lunatics lmao

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LurkNoMore

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Maybe, but we've seen murder and other crime rates skyrocket in liberal cities defunding their police departments, so when people don't feel safe anymore in their gated communities supporting BLM won't be nearly as convenient.
Those people will be:
White - so nobody on the left will give a fuck
Asian - so the nonsense will be blamed on white supremacy
Hispanic - so honorary whites, see above
Black - Nobody gives a fuck now.
 

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The retrial would be after appeals, if ever. Renewing the motion for a retrial today was just a formality and wasn't expected to be granted. Considering the appeals court would have to find that under no circumstances could a reasonable jury have found any of the counts were factually supported, it's very unlikely they will overrule on all charges for that reason. A slightly more likely possibility is that the trial was so procedurally deficient that it was unconstitutional and a retrial is necessary. Denying the motion for a change of venue when the jury pool was as poisoned as it's possible to be and the juror who lied about knowing about the case while being a BLM supporter who had publicly said a lot about it are other possibilities, as well as the juror who admitted they were afraid of what would happen if they didn't find him guilty.

The standards for all those except change of venue are ridiculously high. So is change of venue, but if this jury pool wasn't tainted, there isn't such a thing in Minnesota. Even then, they have to show that it actually impacted the outcome.

So denying the motion for a change of venue, denying the motion for a mistrial, denying the motion for a new trial are also probably going to be in the brief, and if he chooses to switch lawyers at this point, the old standby of ineffective assistance of counsel (which will not stand a snowball's chance in Hell).

And another one, that also probably doesn't stand a chance, prosecutorial misconduct, for continuing on with testimony the judge had explicitly told them not to elicit. This is a wild card, but it's Hell freezing over likely, and could actually outright overturn the entire trial and result in dismissal of all charges with prejudice. This isn't going to happen.

I also think an intermediate appellate court might also be intimidated by the possibility of more riots. The only court I think would be secure enough (in terms of physical security as well as job security and/or not really giving a shit about being unelected) to be insulated from consequences is the Minnesota Supreme Court.

So get ready to wait a couple years of long, boring shit on paper. At least that will mostly be ignored by the press.
So, in all likelihood, the show trial will be upheld on a legal basis indistinguishable from "ain't no law against railroading a cracker?"
 

Mr Cuddles

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Rittenhouse will be made an example of as well.

That's what i'm more worried about. Chauvin didn't deserve the 22 years because (imo) he didn't kill George Floyd. The worst that could be argued is that he failed to administer emergency aid, but that's not murder. Yea he got show trialed but at least he was an unlikable cop.

The problem is Rittenhouse will very likely be railroaded too. I don't imagine the same voices in here dancing on Chauvins grave will suddenly gain a conscience then. It won't matter that there has been video footage showing he clearly tried to retreat and shot them when they were literally attacking with skateboards and a pistol. They will just come up with some bullshit reason why it would have been fairer if Rittenhouse literally allowed himself to be killed.
 

Menotaur

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He is a druggie and a loser.

You think a guy whose spent 2/3 of his life committing violent crimes isn't a loser?

You think he's convictions aren't real? Because they're enshrined in public records.
I think your attitude that criminals are OK to kill is silly. If the reasons why he was no good and deserved to die had any merit, then you can kill off most republican and mid states populace and call your position all square.

White trash are still humans and have rights. Police are not there to give out sentences based on who they think deserve to live and die.
 

HymanHive

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Chauvin is a small piece of the true horror of this trial. People have now learned that violence and threats work. So next time we can expect more needless rioting, murder, and arson. Why would they change tack if it already got the result they kinda wanted? Justice isn't meant to be swayed by mob rule.

You never reward bad behavior. Expect more peaceful but fiery protests. The precedent has been set. To me that's far more scary than a show trial.
That tactic isn't new, but was received the Golden Seal of Approval by the west, when Islamist nutters decided to gun down a bunch of french comic strip writers, force change in Hollywood and make any slight or dig at Islam absolutely verboten.

The riots last year used the same tactics. LGBTQ uses the same tactics. Woke uses the same tactics. All that's changed is how overt the violence is. Gunning people down is monstrous and is never accepted, ruining someones life based on old tweets on the other hand, serves pretty much the same purpose, yet no unacceptable or illegal acts are commited.
 

TitusVoid

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I think your attitude that criminals are OK to kill is silly. If the reasons why he was no good and deserved to die had any merit, then you can kill off most republican and mid states populace and call your position all square.

White trash are still humans and have rights. Police are not there to give out sentences based on who they think deserve to live and die.
Chauvin wasn't trying to kill Floyd. It was at worst an accident where Chauvin restrained Floyd after Floyd acted like a complete retard refusing to sit in the police vehicle. Chauvin had no reason to believe Floyd's life was in danger because Floyd was being just as hysteric before being restrained as he was after.
 

AnOminous

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That's what i'm more worried about. Chauvin didn't deserve the 22 years because (imo) he didn't kill George Floyd.
I don't think it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt, but that's a factual determination by the jury. They don't have to find that what Chauvin did was the sole cause of death, just that it was a "substantial contributing factor." All three counts require that finding. Appellate courts review findings of fact deferentially and only overturn them if "clearly erroneous," meaning that "no reasonable jury" could have convicted under the circumstances.

That argument (the jury was wrong) is definitely going in the appeal, but it's not going to work.
 

ShortBusDriver

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I think your attitude that criminals are OK to kill is silly. If the reasons why he was no good and deserved to die had any merit, then you can kill off most republican and mid states populace and call your position all square.

White trash are still humans and have rights. Police are not there to give out sentences based on who they think deserve to live and die.
I don’t think Floyd deserved to die but like William Munny said, deserves got nothing to do with it.

I don’t want to live in a community where I have to worry about violent career junkies every time I take the trash out or walk to the store.

The lefts attempts to normalize this violent trash culture is just astounding to me.
 

Terrifik

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Chauvin wasn't trying to kill Floyd. It was at worst an accident where Chauvin restrained Floyd after Floyd acted like a complete retard refusing to sit in the police vehicle. Chauvin had no reason to believe Floyd's life was in danger because Floyd was being just as hysteric before being restrained as he was after.
Correct
But my hindsight follow protocol which should sent Floyd to hospital or police station should not taken him out of car until he was at either location.
 

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