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4 Minneapolis officers fired in death of black man after video shows officer pinning knee against his neck

Four Minneapolis police officers have been fired after an incident where a black man died after one of the white police officers pinned his knee against the suspect's neck who appeared to be struggling to breathe and begging for help before going limp on the ground.

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Four Minneapolis police officers linked to the death of George Floyd, a black man who died after a white officer pinned his knee against the suspect's neck as he struggled to breathe, were fired Tuesday, Mayor Jacob Frey said.d for 5 p.m. Tuesday.

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Karma Khan · May 26, 2020

Firing them isn't good enough. They need to be charged.

Kheapathic · May 26, 2020

Another shit situation that the media is going to cause more trouble than necessary. Not a lot of data is given, but the dude resisted; which means the cops are going to get handsy. Then once they get you on the ground (which isn't going to be a comfortable fall), they're not gonna let you up because you're calling for help; because there's a chance the moment they let you up, you're gonna start fighting again. It'd be great if we lived in a world where people don't lie; but if there's a chance there's going to be a fight, it's safer for the suspect and the cops to keep you on the ground, otherwise someone is going to get hurt in another physical confrontration.

Arradondo said he asked the FBI to investigate whether a possible civil rights violation led to the man's death.

The police chief did fucking what? Do you not trust your own DA or justice department? ... ... ... something stinks.

ERROR_ENTRY · May 26, 2020

I watched the full video and calling it 'disturbing' is putting it mildly. Hopefully the officer involved (who stuck his knee against the mans neck) gets nothing less than murder put against him

JK Rowling · May 26, 2020

They should really stop recruiting KKK members into the police.

Cryogonal · May 26, 2020

Hang the cops, there's nothing worse in the US than cops who murder.

MrJokerRager · May 26, 2020

How hard is it to make a simple arrest without fucking it up.

DumbDude42 · May 26, 2020

Kheapathic said:
there's a chance the moment they let you up, you're gonna start fighting again

dude his hands were cuffed behind his back and he was on the ground, face down. start fighting back my ass, in a situation like that the guy is thoroughly neutralized and doesn't pose a threat to anybody. kneeing him in the neck like that for such a long time is just excessive cruelty.

i usually come down on the side of the cops in cases of police brutality because usually the target deserved it, but cases like this are just indefensible.

Mepsi Pax · May 26, 2020

What's not clear here at all is whether the spook died of asphyxiation - did the cop actually manage to choke him to death by pinning him with a knee on the back of his neck like that? I'm leaning towards "No". Anything's possible, but remember we already had one of these "I can't breathe" jig deaths where the suspect died of being a colossal fatass (heart attack or whatever) rather than actually being suffocated by the police.

Imagine being a cop and having your superiors immediately throw you under the bus when you get in a serious altercation/incident with a criminal... these cities deserve everything they'll get in the future. A normal chief would suspend them until the coroner comes back with a report and/or an investigation is ordered.

EDIT: By the way, I don't really care for the police, and I used to have constant interactions with them in my younger days. Thing is, they always treated me OK because I didn't fight or run or scream. There was one time they jacked me up a little because they were mad that I was hiding, but it was really minor.

Jimjamflimflam · May 26, 2020

Dear police, please stop fucking up and giving the black community yet another excuse to chimp out on regular citizens.

4 cops seriously can't subdue one guy without making it into a fatality?

Citation Checking Project · May 26, 2020

Kheapathic said:
Another shit situation that the media is going to cause more trouble than necessary. Not a lot of data is given, but the dude resisted; which means the cops are going to get handsy. Then once they get you on the ground (which isn't going to be a comfortable fall), they're not gonna let you up because you're calling for help; because there's a chance the moment they let you up, you're gonna start fighting again. It'd be great if we lived in a world where people don't lie; but if there's a chance there's going to be a fight, it's safer for the suspect and the cops to keep you on the ground, otherwise someone is going to get hurt in another physical confrontration.

The police chief did fucking what? Do you not trust your own DA or justice department? ... ... ... something stinks.

Yeah people pull the "I cant breathe officer" all the time. That being said, I received some arrest technique training in my life, and kneeling on someone's neck was explicitly forbidden. (well kneeling on anything that's marked red on the schematics) That is grounds for punishment.

ExciteDyke · May 26, 2020

Kheapathic said:
Another shit situation that the media is going to cause more trouble than necessary. Not a lot of data is given, but the dude resisted; which means the cops are going to get handsy. Then once they get you on the ground (which isn't going to be a comfortable fall), they're not gonna let you up because you're calling for help; because there's a chance the moment they let you up, you're gonna start fighting again. It'd be great if we lived in a world where people don't lie; but if there's a chance there's going to be a fight, it's safer for the suspect and the cops to keep you on the ground, otherwise someone is going to get hurt in another physical confrontration.

The police chief did fucking what? Do you not trust your own DA or justice department? ... ... ... something stinks.

He didn't need to be kneed in the neck, dude.

Citation Checking Project · May 26, 2020

Jimjamflimflam said:
Dear police, please stop fucking up and giving the black community yet another outlet to chimp out on regular citizens.

4 cops seriously can't subdue one guy without making it into a fatality?

The problem is that, even if you're doing everything right, statistically, you're going to fuck one arrest up eventually. And statistical inevitability is not an argument the public understands.

Jimjamflimflam · May 26, 2020

Citation Checking Project said:
The problem is that, even if you're doing everything right, statistically, you're going to fuck one arrest up eventually. And statistical inevitability is not an argument the public understands.

Seems like a recurring pattern of the police escalating it from target neutralized to show of power.

Did they really need to put Eric Gardner into a choke hold for selling loose cigs? Did they really need to put their knee on a already downed and handcuffed guy?

MrJokerRager · May 26, 2020

Citation Checking Project said:
The problem is that, even if you're doing everything right, statistically, you're going to fuck one arrest up eventually. And statistical inevitability is not an argument the public understands.

As other posters stated, knee on the neck of some handcuffed dude was not even done on gitmo detainees.

SpookNuker · May 26, 2020

Saw this earlier today. Pretty fucked up.

My main takeaways from the video (which was a pathetic and sickening thing to view) were:

The guy seemed a bit coked up or something. That could explain why they ended up in that situation to begin with. People on drugs can be very difficult to deal with, and physically restraining them is often the most effective (or only) way to subdue them.
Even if the above is true, why in the world would you pin the guy down with your knee on his neck for several minutes? Or at all? Put your weight on his back instead. You can end up causing severe damage to their trachea, spine, etc by putting weight on the neck. The risk of blocking off their airflow and the bloodflow to the brain is too high.
He's already down, and you have other officers there to assist you. Cuff the guy's wrists and ankles or something. What's he going to do after that, hop and wiggle at you?
ACAB

As a friend said, "When I find myself siding with a cracked out nog, it has to be bad."

Citation Checking Project · May 26, 2020

Jimjamflimflam said:
Did they really need to put Eric Gardner into a choke hold for selling loose cigs? Did they really need to put their knee on a already downed and handcuffed guy?

MrJokerRager said:
As other posters stated, knee on the neck of some handcuffed dude was not even done on gitmo detainees.

That's true, but at the macro level, I contend that, even if you tell everyone in training to never do it, eventually someone's going to break the rule given a sufficiently large number of arrests, hence, my argument for statistical inevitability. It should be minimized on principle, but given the amount of arrests US cops have to perform, and given that no probability is ever absolute in this world, they'll accidentally off a dude once in a while. Sometimes the optics are better than this one, but the problem is the same.

JohnDoe · May 26, 2020

If the perp can speak, he can breathe. You can't scream and wail like you broke your favorite crack-pipe if somebody is strangling you. Also, if I was a cop there I'd be looking for a new job ASAP, as its clear the brass will fold like a cheap suit at the first sign of a hashtag.

DumbDude42 · May 26, 2020

Citation Checking Project said:
The problem is that, even if you're doing everything right, statistically, you're going to fuck one arrest up eventually. And statistical inevitability is not an argument the public understands.

bullshit tbh.
they had him cuffed and on the ground already. in that state, the only thing he could ever possibly do is stand up and try to run away, and if you want to stop that from happening you can always just take a second pair of cuffs and put it on his feet. and if you want to go absolute 100% sure that he doesn't do anything, get a third pair of cuffs and use it to connect the cuffs on his hands and the cuffs on his feet. it'll be uncomfortable as fuck for him, but not in a serious injury kind of way, and it will render him completely incapable of doing anything at all except maybe yell insults at you.

usually the justification for police brutality is "he was resisting arrest" but this dude is already subjugated, he's cuffed and on the ground, it is physically impossible for him to resist. there is zero justification for applying any serious force to him at all at this point.

NeilBreenLover69 · May 26, 2020

Holy shit, this case is fucked up enough that even A&N is defending the black person!

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