[UK] Gender Reform Act (2004) Reform -

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So discussions on this have been all over me feed this week, decided to do some digging on the original law and what the proposed changes are to it. Results are interesting to say the least.

So the Gender Reform Act (GRA) was brought into UK law in 2004 and basically gives trans people the ability to change their gender on official documents. To do this, trans people need to meet many requirements and show specific evidence to a panel for approval (source):

The 'Standard' Track
- Applicant must be 18 or over.
- A statutory declaration that the trans person intends to live permanently in their acquired gender until death.
- Application fee of up to £140
- Two medical reports – confirming that the applicant has, or has had, gender dysphoria and including details of any treatment the applicant has had to modify their body, e.g. hormone treatment or surgery.
- Evidence that the applicant has lived full time in their acquired gender for at least two years. This might include, for example, documentation displaying the individual’s name and gender marker.
- If married, the spouse must issue a statutory declaration of consent.
- The applicant cannot be in a civil partnership unless both they and their partner get legal recognition on the same day.

The 'Alternate' Track
This is the same as the standard track except:
- Only one medical report is needed – either confirming the applicant has, or has had, gender dysphoria or that they have had surgery for the purposes of modifying their sexual characteristics.
- The applicant must be in a protected marriage or civil partnership on or before the date the application is made.
- Evidence needs to show that the applicant has lived full time in their acquired gender for at least six years prior to 10 December 2014, and continues to do so.
- The applicant must be ordinarily resident in England, Wales or Scotland.

There is also one for people overseas, which is pretty similar.

Now the proposed reforms are due to many trans people feeling that the current system is just completely inappropriate. According to the above document, trans people claim that the current process is too bureaucratic (38%) and too expensive (34%), with 44% of respondents saying that they did not satisfy the requirements, 19% saying they could not get the help they needed to put a successful application together and 8% saying that they did not want to submit medical information. There is also a concern for trans kids not being able to apply, citing the increase of in referrals to gender services from under 18s in recent years.

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So, the proposed changes aren't official yet (to my knowledge), but some of the current suggestions include (source):
  • To remove the requirement for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.
  • To remove the requirement for any medical or psychological treatment.
  • There is no need for a period of reflection. Trans people know who they are and retaining a period of reflection would contribute to stigma against trans people as it would imply their ability to self-determine is not adequate.
  • To remove the requirement for an applicant to have lived in their ‘acquired gender’ for two years. This can lead to violations of the right to privacy and non-discrimination and reinforces gender stereotypes.
  • To remove spousal veto.
  • Children and young people should have access to legal gender recognition
  • Non-binary people need legal recognition
  • Trans women are women and there is no risk to single sex services
A lot of these are echoed by the larger community, especially the first change.

Obviously some of these proposed changes are... 'controversial' to put it politely and are causing quite the stir. Namely, debates around women-only spaces and the issues with self-identifying as trans vs medical diagnosis. Requiring a gender dysphoria diagnosis is apparently implying trans people are mentally ill, which is transphobic. Also, according to the gov report, of those that responded, around 52% of those who considered themselves trans also considered themselves non-binary, so they need recognition and inclusion.

It's very hard to find non-biased reporting on this whole issue, so keep that in mind if you want to read up on this for yourselves. Not sure how I personally feel about this, but as I am #cis #scum my opinion doesn't really matter anyway. The consultation on the reform ends in a couple of weeks, so we could soon be seeing some more official proposals and, likely, big fallouts between trans and 'TERF' groups. Feminist groups have been protesting at many pride events in the UK this season, claiming trans women aren't women etc, and pissing everyone at the parades off, so you know if this stuff passes it's gonna blow the fuck up.

Kiwis, discuss.
 

LazarusOwenhart

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By the time this passes into law the whole Trans trend will have blown over leaving this legislation for real trans people. All the edgy teens will be wanting leg amputations or dying their eyeballs red or some shit to get that sweet sweet negative parental reaction.
 

Guli

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"Oh hey, this works, makes sure that they're not going to be on the losing side of the coin flip and regret their decision when it's too late"

"Hey so that's transphobic lol, also money so uhhhh we're gonna have to change your problematic laws there"

Nigga, if you can't take people knowing you're a tranny for 2 years, you are not mentally prepared to be a tranny.
 

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So what are they going to do about the Equality Act 2010?

According to this law, sexual orientation is defined as attraction towards the same sex, the opposite sex or both sexes (which is the correct definition as sexual orientation is based on sex and not "gender"). But now that the UK government is planning to redefine the words "man" and "woman" so that they refer to one's perceived "gender identity" firsthand, doesn't that mean that they will have to make changes to the Equality Act as well so as to not discriminate against trans people who claim to be lesbian or gay? (Of course, British gays and lesbians probably won't be too happy about being told that their sexual orientation is transphobic, but who cares about that?)
 

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as I am #cis #scum my opinion doesn't really matter anyway.
It does though, because some of this stuff potentially affects you. That's why there are women's groups protesting to keep women's spaces for women, and not '''women''', for a start. Prisons and hospitals are another issue (hopefully you'll never get sent down though, fam, and keep your ass outta the hospital, yeah?).

If more than half of the people applying for official recognition of their super snowflake status are nonbinary, it makes a good part of the law as it stands moot anyway. And shows the trans trend up for the trend that it is, especially amongst young females that think they can't say they're female if they don't like Barbie dolls and wearing mini skirts and a shit tonne of makeup.
 

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So what are they going to do about the Equality Act 2010?

According to this law, sexual orientation is defined as attraction towards the same sex, the opposite sex or both sexes (which is the correct definition as sexual orientation is based on sex and not "gender"). But now that the UK government is planning to redefine the words "man" and "woman" so that they refer to one's perceived "gender identity" firsthand, doesn't that mean that they will have to make changes to the Equality Act as well so as to not discriminate against trans people who claim to be lesbian or gay? (Of course, British gays and lesbians probably won't be too happy about being told that their sexual orientation is transphobic, but who cares about that?)
In the linked document they talk about that im p sure. They said theyre not reviewing the equality act.

It does though, because some of this stuff potentially affects you. That's why there are women's groups protesting to keep women's spaces for women, and not '''women''', for a start. Prisons and hospitals are another issue (hopefully you'll never get sent down though, fam, and keep your ass outta the hospital, yeah?).

If more than half of the people applying for official recognition of their super snowflake status are nonbinary, it makes a good part of the law as it stands moot anyway. And shows the trans trend up for the trend that it is, especially amongst young females that think they can't say they're female if they don't like Barbie dolls and wearing mini skirts and a shit tonne of makeup.
When i saw the non binary statistic it did stick out to me. Makes it seem that the influx in trans identification coincides with the non-binary identity blowing up.
:thinking:
 

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