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Coffee Druid

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Oh yeah. Tell me, which cover makes you interested...

This one:
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Or this one:
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Funny enough, the first one was replaced by an equally ugly cover:
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I almost forgot that similar issue. Re-releasing old books isn't bad at all. But when you change the cover and make it more simplistic and boring? That's not it, man. Also, I find it silly when books get a movie adaptation, and then get re-released with covers depicting the movie actors.

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I haven't read all these, but these are all interesting. You get an idea of the characters, or the setting of the book. They make you want to know what's going on or where they are.

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These feel more boring and aside from giving you an idea of the main character, don't give you any idea of the actual story. I will say, though, from a cursory glance these are actually in the minority. Most recent fantasy releases had artwork on the covers (of varying detail). Maybe the trend is going down, or maybe I overestimated how many covers were like this. It does make me hopeful.
 

Meat Target

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I don't like Sanderson. I do really appreciate his work ethic, I would probably be a millionaire genius GOD if I did everything with his kind of energy, but man, he writes characters so fucking boring and their interactions are so uninspired. Maybe it's because he grew up Mormon and they interact like wooden planks with each other, I don't know, but so far, after 5 Mistborn books, I just feel like he is no good at writing characters.
Some of his high concept are interesting, but he just makes it all feel so dull. It has no playfulness and no life. It reads like some monk writing a chronicle about history, not a fun adventure the reader will feel like they are a part of.
I will probably try his Stormlight, but I have a feeling I
I had issues with getting characters in Mistborn mixed up.

IMO, Sanderson's forte is writing battles and action sequences. The ending of The Well of Ascension absolutely knocked me on my ass.

His contribution to the Wheel of Time is apparently amazing. Granted, he's working with Robert Jordan's story, but I've heard he makes it go balls-to-the-wall in the last few books.
 

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Harry Potter made no sense to be a sped kid when it first came out, but I will not be reading it as a college graduate.

Also, Water Margin is the first LGBT novel. Spoilers: half of the characters are gay. I just made most of the Chinamen mad just now.
 

Clarence

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Whenever I hear someone cite this as their favorite book, I know it's the only book they've ever read in their entire life and only because they were forced to in high school.
The catcher in the Rye I feel really captured the essence of how a bitchy angry teenager with a superiority complex would speak. But over all it was pretty bland.
 

Clarence

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I genuinely enjoy Moby Dick and agree that its one of the greatest American novels even though its objectively terrible in just about every way.
Moby Dick is very wordy, maybe too wordy. But i makes excellent background noise if you listen o the audio book.
Maybe it's the way it was read but I very much enjoyed it. I feel like there's chunks where you can kind of zone out or skip through but there are some parts that I enjoyed theexcess detail. Describing the mundane aspects of whaling was something I never thought I'd be into.
Even if you don't finish it, it's something you could thumb through while on the shitter and be captivated for a few minutes.
 

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Moby Dick is very wordy, maybe too wordy. But i makes excellent background noise if you listen o the audio book.
Maybe it's the way it was read but I very much enjoyed it. I feel like there's chunks where you can kind of zone out or skip through but there are some parts that I enjoyed theexcess detail. Describing the mundane aspects of whaling was something I never thought I'd be into.
Even if you don't finish it, it's something you could thumb through while on the shitter and be captivated for a few minutes.
Yeah that's definitely part of its charm. I'm honestly surprised at how much the book meanders on irrelevant plots though. It even stops dead in the middle to tell a completely separate story of another ship, I can see why literary critics of its era hated it even though I personally enjoy it.
 

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Yeah that's definitely part of its charm. I'm honestly surprised at how much the book meanders on irrelevant plots though. It even stops dead in the middle to tell a completely separate story of another ship, I can see why literary critics of its era hated it even though I personally enjoy it.

There are hardly any superfluous words or chapters in Moby-Dick. All the flowery language, very obviously in imitation of the KJV and of Shakespeare, is designed to drag the reader into the mindset of the crew who're all drunk on the mythic power of Ahab's madness. They feel like they're living inside an ancient epic - there's literally a whole chapter laying that out - and you should, too. The endless details of ship life are, again, there to immerse the reader in the wildly unique and alien world of a whaling ship, so that while you're reading it you can really get some sense of the strange drudgery of a whaler's life in a thoroughly intimate way. Even the digression about the other ship, in addition to the foreshadowing it provides, imitates the preciousness of news on an interminable sea voyage.

Literary critics of his era hated it because they were joyless Bostonian Congregationalists who were instinctively terrified of the savage, mythic power of the book in front of them. It's unironically the best piece of fiction ever written by an American, and Europeans should be embarrassed that it used many of the techniques of literary modernism decades before Woolf or Joyce picked up a pen, and did it all while still being a corking good read.
 

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There are hardly any superfluous words or chapters in Moby-Dick. All the flowery language, very obviously in imitation of the KJV and of Shakespeare, is designed to drag the reader into the mindset of the crew who're all drunk on the mythic power of Ahab's madness. They feel like they're living inside an ancient epic - there's literally a whole chapter laying that out - and you should, too. The endless details of ship life are, again, there to immerse the reader in the wildly unique and alien world of a whaling ship, so that while you're reading it you can really get some sense of the strange drudgery of a whaler's life in a thoroughly intimate way. Even the digression about the other ship, in addition to the foreshadowing it provides, imitates the preciousness of news on an interminable sea voyage.

Literary critics of his era hated it because they were joyless Bostonian Congregationalists who were instinctively terrified of the savage, mythic power of the book in front of them. It's unironically the best piece of fiction ever written by an American, and Europeans should be embarrassed that it used many of the techniques of literary modernism decades before Woolf or Joyce picked up a pen, and did it all while still being a corking good read.
To be honest in general I'm very dismissive of this sort of attitude when it comes to literature, and I tend to read books in a sort of cold and detached way that prevents me from getting swept up in a book's prose like that. I don't know if I do this intentionally or if its just a product of how uptight I am. That said Moby Dick still manages to impress me and draw me into its world, just on its sheer force of personality. I particuarly love how it captures the mudane in its setting. A lot of the early digressions that show every little detail of port and sea life are impressively realized, and despite all the emphasis they're described with they still manage to appeal to my practical mindset.

The largest strength in Moby Dick though is easily its characters. I don't think there was a single side character in the entire story who I felt was flat and empty. It also felt like each character's motivations and personality all made sense and were tailored to them individually; something that's just flat out dead in this day and age. Melville also achieves the remarkable feat of having characters always state a unique and reasonable opinion that suits their personality; and characters state their opinion a fuck of a lot in that book.

This point is purely subjective, but I was also surprised as how sympathetic all of the characters were, and how easy it is to get attached to them. Captain Ahab seems downright heroic to my sensibilities, and his refusal to bend to the will of God or fate or whatever else might lurk in the cosmos is downright admirable. He happens to lose anyway just because his opponent really is that insurmountable; something that can always happen in the real world.
 

Coffee Druid

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I don't feel the desire to collect books and fill up bookshelves at my house.

Part of it is that I don't have the space for a lot of books where I am right now. Plus it costs money to buy a bunch of physical books. Don't get me wrong, my favorite method of reading IS physical copies I can hold. But I usually check my books out from the library or get e-books. If I've already read a book, I may not re-read it again (at least not for a couple years) so why keep it on a shelf collecting dust? And if I have a bunch of books piling up "to-read", it might get overwhelming and/or I will forget about them in lieu of buying even more new books I won't get to. I have bad experiences growing up with hoarders so that might contribute as well.
 

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I love old fantasy book covers that were basically paintings.
Often they literally were paintings, like the classic works of Boris Vallejo and Frank Frazetta.

Beefcake barbarians, hot babes? They had 'em. Frazetta pretty much personally invented the visual look of Conan that later took Arnold to personify it.
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And Vallejo is almost as much of a badass irl as the barbarians he drew for book covers.
Yeah that's definitely part of its charm. I'm honestly surprised at how much the book meanders on irrelevant plots though. It even stops dead in the middle to tell a completely separate story of another ship, I can see why literary critics of its era hated it even though I personally enjoy it.
One of my favorite books is Tristram Shandy, a 1759 novel by Laurence Sterne, a deliberate disaster of a meandering mess, allegedly an "autobiography," where the titular character isn't even born into well into the second volume, which often goes off into irrelevant tangents lasting 100 pages or more. Laurence Sterne is sadly underrated these days, or more often, just not even known.

James Joyce had nothing on Sterne.
 
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Often they literally were paintings, like the classic works of Boris Vallejo and Frank Frazetta.

Beefcake barbarians, hot babes? They had 'em. Frazetta pretty much personally invented the visual look of Conan that later took Arnold to personify it.
He later did concept sketches for the KING CONAN: CROWN OF IRON sequel script that John Milius wrote. Tragically never produced. You can find it online, it's fucking badass.
 

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He later did concept sketches for the KING CONAN: CROWN OF IRON sequel script that John Milius wrote. Tragically never produced. You can find it online, it's fucking badass.
John Milius doing Conan would have been the most epic thing that ever happened.

I'll note that my own original John Goodman avatar was of Walter Sobchak, literally based on John Milius, a great script director and director in general, who wrote Apocalypse Now. Milius once commented that the instant the LA riots after the Rodney King verdict came down, all his liberal friends showed up begging for protection because they knew he had a lot of guns.

It's really funny how people's performative morals go away the instant the rubber hits the road.
 

kaien

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Well, he did the original Conan the Barbarian. (Adapted into filmable form from a truly phantasmagoric original script by Oliver Stone.) But his idea for another movie was way more insane. Big fucking cast of thousands epic battles.

It also cribbed one of Howard's best lines ever, originally from a King Kull short: "THEN I AM KING! AND BY THIS AXE I RULE!"
 

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My favorite book is the Harry Potter series where Harry and his friends team up with the Jedi Knights to battle the evil Sith Lord Voldemort. Of course, just like in every MCU movie ever, the good guys win because of the forced incompetence of the bad guys.

Then the bad guys are spared when they finally come out of the closet and it all ends in a raw gangbang where everyone gets AIDS. Especially the bad guys, who die three weeks later.
 

Captain Hastings Official

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Does anyone read Arthur C. Clarke anymore? I think he was by far the most reliably interesting of the 'Big Three' of Golden Age science fiction authors (Asimov/Clarke/Heinlein), but, outside of his co-authorship of 2001, it doesn't seem like anyone really talks about him. Which is a pity, because where Asimov's prose was dry and workmanlike and Heinlein's was hectoring and badgering*, Clarke had a genuine sense of poetry and wonder. Yeah, his characters are flat and uninteresting, but that's not the point. I defy anyone to read the battle description in Earthlight, to take just one example, and not be amazed by the way he uses the rude logic of physics to achieve a luminously beautiful effect. And then compare it with the vaguely similar Earth-Moon conflict of Heinlein's The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress - you're invested in the result, sure, and interested in Heinlein's thoughts about the situation, but there's no romance about the thing at all.

*why are libertarians - theoretically dedicated to live and let live - always so full of missionary zeal?
 

kaien

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*why are libertarians - theoretically dedicated to live and let live - always so full of missionary zeal?
Heinlein's early stuff was written for a younger audience, and it has that kind of pedagogic quality to it. Imparting his wisdom to the leaders of tomorrow. "Have Space Suit, Will Travel" is like 70 years old now but you could easily update it into a modern tract promoting STEM education.
 

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