Unpopular Opinions About Comic Books -

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

Comic books are gay and so are the middle-aged/old men who read them.

The funny comic books are better than superhero comic books. As a child, I read more Simpsons/Archie than I did Spiderman/Batman.

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

European comicbooks are best, superheroes are childish and manga are gay.

 

[Trilby]

Comic books are gay and so are the middle-aged/old men who read them.

The funny comic books are better than superhero comic books. As a child, I read more Simpsons/Archie than I did Spiderman/Batman.

I was always a Harvey/Disney comics kind of guy.

 

[Stab You in the Back]

European comicbooks are best, superheroes are childish and manga are gay.

Eurocomics have terrible art. They're too stilted, lacking the dynamism of superhero comics and manga. The only exception are the spaniards, who seem to have their own artistic traditions separate from the shit being produced by france and belgium.

 

[Sorlock]

Comic books are gay and so are the middle-aged/old men who read them.

The funny comic books are better than superhero comic books. As a child, I read more Simpsons/Archie than I did Spiderman/Batman.

I like Watchmen, but I also thought Watchmen was hilarious. I'm willing to accept some superhero comics can be fine based on a few examples, but if your hobby is Superhero Comic Books(TM), I'm going to back away slowly in ways I don't imagine I would from people who like funny comics.

This just makes me feel like writing a dramedy comic not about superheroes again.

Superheros as a concept are inherently fascistic and Miller despite being edgy as fuck is one of the few who understands that.

No. America has just become fascistic and is obsessed with superheroes so all our superheroes turn out fascistic. Superheroes have a higher potential to be fascist, but that doesn't mean superheroes are fascist. If you got powers, would you be forced to willingly become a fascist leader or super-soldier of some kind? I don't think you'd have to even unwillingly. Actual religious texts have people beating up angels, demons, and forms of God and the Devil himself. America making some mutant who can move things with his mind stronger than that is just a sign of a culture gone haywire, because everyone is a fascist and imagining if they had powers, they'd be a better fascist. Having innate powers which ordinary people cannot touch and no supernaturally-bestowed obligations or other externally-imposed obligations is the ideal fascist fantasy, but not all superheroes live in worlds like that and even if they do, nothing is compelling them to become fascists. Primarily, I'd expect non-powered people to be able to beat powered people under some circumstances, so making superpowers mean categorical superiority rather than only being a tool and particular advantage which maybe could be beaten by outsmarting the powered person or using technology is already a fascist fantasy.

Not a comic, but Sky High was an inherently anti-fascist movie even if The Incredibles also by Disney is basically family-oriented fascist propaganda.

 

[FuckedUp]

Scott Pilgrim's art style is great.

 

[Doctor Placebo]

Not a comic, but Sky High was an inherently anti-fascist movie even if The Incredibles also by Disney is basically family-oriented fascist propaganda.

The Incredibles was pretty Objectivist but it wasn't fascist. At no point do Mr. or Mrs. Incredible want to rule over anything. If you're going to sperg about fascism like this, please at least tell us what definition of fascism you're using, because everyone seems to have a different one and most of them have very little resemblance to the actual ideology Mussolini created.

Anyway, I don't know if this is really unpopular, but the west's and particularly America's fixation with comics being about superheroes has really crippled the medium and its artistic potential. Superhero stories rarely rise above pulpy garbage. Not that there's anything wrong with enjoying pulpy garbage, but people who sperg out about the greatness of X-Men or Spiderman or whatever aren't that far off from people who used to sperg about how deep Steven Universe was.

 

[EmpireOfTheClouds]

Scott Snyder can't write villains for shit.

Need proof? Batman: Death of the Family, where he takes easily the most classic villain of all time (The Joker) and not only completely misses the point of him but turns him into a textbook Villain Sue.

 

[JimiHendrix]

Scott Snyder can't write villains for shit.

Need proof? Batman: Death of the Family, where he takes easily the most classic villain of all time (The Joker) and not only completely misses the point of him but turns him into a textbook Villain Sue.

I don't agree. I think while Scott Snyder is very clearly a Joker fanboy and has serious issues with his overuse of Joker, for example Batman Who Laughs. I think he writes Joker himself fairly well. At least at the core. Man has a serious edge problem.

I think the ending of Death of the Family is brilliant. How Joker managed to essentially kill the Batfamily by tearing them apart and left a personal message, celebrating this achievement, that only Bruce got to see, completely alone in the batcave.

If anything the major issues with Death of the Family was Scott Snyder apparently didn't tell any other writers what the ending twist was, so in the main Batman comic there's big questions of "DOES Joker know who they are?" and it's intentionally kept ambiguous and at the end it's revealed he didn't know.

But the people writing the tie ins in the Batman family books didn't know this, so they straight up write him as if he 100% did know the entire time.

If you want to criticize Snyders Joker writing, Endgame is a much better target...fuckin'..pale man...

I also realize now after writing this all out I probably shouldn't have bothered since this is for "unpopular comic book opinions" but I'm just starved to talk about comics, honestly.

 

[GoPro]

Manga and European comics are superior to vast majority of American comics. Quality gap is comically large. A joke manga parodying capes manages to have better art, characters, plot, and storytelling than anything Marvel and DC have been putting out for the last couple decades.

Uncanny X-Force is the only good X-Men book. Everything else ranges from mediocre to trash. To make matters worse, a lot of writers are mutant fanboys who play favorites with characters. Every time Jean Gray, Rogue, or Kitty Pryde are involved the book is likely to be a bad fanfic.

James Stokoe is one of the best (if not the best) artists and writers currently making comics in English language. However, he lacks discipline and is pretty bad with deadlines. Tradd Moore used to be very good, but he overdosed on Grappler Baki few years ago and his art suffered as a result.

Immortal Hulk is just average. It is only good compared to other Marvel comics, and to past few decades of dogshit Hulk comics. Hasting's Gwenpool book on the other hand was geniuinly good. I'd go as far as calling it the best Marvel comic of the last decade. It's also a rare example of meta-narrative that actually works as a story and does not devolve into writer stroking his own ego.

Alan Moore did not write anything worth reading after 2002. Same goes for Morrison. In last two decades or so, both of them in general began to come across as watered down imitations of Jodorowsky but minus Jodo's talent, skill, creativity, charisma, and work ethic. Jodo is a better wizard, and he has an actual cult. All Morrison and Moore have a fat fanboys.

Bendis's Daredevil is the only thing from his bibliography worth reading. Everything else is trash, including his Ultimate Spider-Man run. Same goes for Ellis with Transmetropolitan and Next Wave being the only of his books that are decent.

Maus, Gaiman's Sandman, and Preacher are the most overrated comic books of all time. Empowered, Usagi Yojimbo, and Asterios Polyp are the most underrated American comics of all time.

Brian K Vaughan's best work is The Machine. His most popular comics like Saga and Y The Last Man are just hacky, trite stories that get worse an more boring the longer they go. Most fans of his books did not read comics before or only read capeshit. Saga is as formulaic as The Walking Dead, and delays are likely due to the fact is Vaughan does not know how how to end the story.

Fiona Staple's interior art is pretty bad. Her blocking is very simplistic, she does not use any interesting perspective or paneling techniques, her backgrounds are barely existent, she recycles art too often, and generally half of each book she works on is half assed. She could make up for it if her artwork had some life and energy, was refined, or detailed, but it's none of those. She is just permanently stuck in the middle of the road DA artist unless she is allowed to dump dozens of hours into a cover piece. Same goes for Sejic, except 75% of his interior art is lazy, but at least it is not as lifeless as Staple's work.

Eurocomics have terrible art. They're too stilted, lacking the dynamism of superhero comics and manga. The only exception are the spaniards, who seem to have their own artistic traditions separate from the shit being produced by france and belgium.

That's only true if you go for realistically drawn Franco-Beligian books like Sanctum. They have a tendency to be pretty stiff. If you go even a little bit outside of this niche, you will see a lot of very expressive art. Undertaker has a very realistic art while still being expressive and dynamic when needed. Tebori manages to be restrained and dynamic at the same time. Art in Asterix is very expressive and full of life. Lastman is an extreme where art focuses on motion and dynamism above all else.
Besides Franco-Belgian and Spanish artistic traditions there are Italian and what you could call Slavo-Scandinavian one. Within each one there are a few distinct currents. Generally, more realistic equals less dynamic.

 

[Tour of Italy]

The golden age of webcomics was fucking great and also long, long over.

 

[The Bovinian Derivative]

Cover art should always be drawn the same (or very close to the) style as the interior. I feel cheated every time I see some nice cover and the interior looks different and mostly inferior. I'd shit on variant covers too but I've never seen anyone unironically like them who is not a collector. 95% of manga might be generic as fuck but at least their covers are generic as fuck as well.

 

[Owlman3]

Lex Luthor is a far more interesting and complex character/villain than the Joker.

This is coming from a Batman fanboy.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Lex Luthor is a far more interesting character/villain than the Joker.

This is coming from a Batman fanboy.

Their's something fascinating about a Man who'd fight a God.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I enjoy the fan boyish nerd version of Kamala Khan than the Mary Sue version.

DC resets are much better than Marvel's never ending timeline.

Capeshit is cooler than normal when used as a backdrop more than the main focus.

 

[Owlman3]

Their's something fascinating about a Man who'd fight a God.

The motivations I think are interesting as well. Why does he hate Superman? Does he truly believe that humanity shouldn’t depend on Supes and he’s a false god or is he just jealous of him?

The problem with Joker is that he’s become too one-note. He hates/loves Batman. Why?

Spoiler: The Real Reason

 

[Yaoi Huntress Earth]

The motivations I think are interesting as well. Why does he hate Superman? Does he truly believe that humanity shouldn’t depend on Supes and he’s a false god or is he just jealous of him?

The problem with Joker is that he’s become too one-note. He hates/loves Batman. Why?

Spoiler: The Real Reason

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I believe that Lex has narcistic personality disorder. So he may believe that he's fighting for the reason of keeping people from worshipping a false god, but deep down it's jealousy.

 

[Fromtheblackdepths]

I believe that Lex has narcistic personality disorder. So he may believe that he's fighting for the reason of keeping people from worshipping a false god, but deep down it's jealousy.

That right there is what I like about Luthor.

 

[Emperor Julian]

The motivations I think are interesting as well. Why does he hate Superman? Does he truly believe that humanity shouldn’t depend on Supes and he’s a false god or is he just jealous of him?

The problem with Joker is that he’s become too one-note. He hates/loves Batman. Why?

I always perceived it as it being the most interesting thing he can do. Not in the least because it's the only thing which it isnt clear he'll inevitably succed at .

Jokers been ruined by over exposure combined with too much escalation, he's too unstable to show up constantly.

 

[Yaoi Huntress Earth]

I always perceived it as it being the most interesting thing he can do. Not in the least because it's the only thing which it isnt clear he'll inevitably succed at .

Jokers been ruined by over exposure combined with too much escalation, he's too unstable to show up constantly.

The Joker movie looks cool (I have yet to see it), but I'm sick of the guy. Focus on some of Batman's other rouges.