Unpopular opinions about movies. -

[starborn427614]

John Williams's best work is A.I.

Love that flick.

 

[Damien Thorne]

I actually liked watching Crank High Voltage. It delivered exactly what it intended to.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

I'd never heard of the TV show until years after I'd seen the movie.
To me it was always a fun adventure movie.

My unpopular opinion was that I'd consider the Lord of The Rings movies the worst I've ever seen.
I got bored half an hour into the first one and 15 minutes into the sequels and stayed bored to the end. They felt five hours long and were as entertaining as staring at the wall.

Congratulations. That is an actual unpopular opinion worthy of the thread. LOTR is about as good an adaptation of the books that could ever be made (in the absolute last time in history that they could have been made before the Age of Wokeness,) but if High Fantasy isn't your bag, they're probably not going to do anything for you.

Halloween has some decent direction, some genuine scares, and a really good performance by Donald Pleasance. It also embodies the mischevious, sinister spirit of Halloween and in that way, it's a cut above other slasher movies, which were all about lining up a bunch of dumb teenagers and mowing them down in creative, over the top ways.

 

[ThatOneLurker]

The Dwayne Johnson/Carl Urban Doom movie is pretty rad to watch drunk with friends.

 

[Duncan Hills Coffee]

Midsommar was a tremendously boring slog punctuated by two or three scenes of excellent gore.

 

[AtheistWestonChandler]

Congratulations. That is an actual unpopular opinion worthy of the thread. LOTR is about as good an adaptation of the books that could ever be made (in the absolute last time in history that they could have been made before the Age of Wokeness,) but if High Fantasy isn't your bag, they're probably not going to do anything for you.

Halloween has some decent direction, some genuine scares, and a really good performance by Donald Pleasance. It also embodies the mischevious, sinister spirit of Halloween and in that way, it's a cut above other slasher movies, which were all about lining up a bunch of dumb teenagers and mowing them down in creative, over the top ways.

I thought the Ralph Bakshi movie was good but not great.
I love fantasy.
If LOTR was romance or some genre I hate I wouldn't mind so much.

 

[Admiral Mantoid]

I'll admit that I unironically enjoy Wild Wild West. Part of it might just be nostalgia since I saw it in the theaters when I was a little kid. But I also like it as just a fun popcorn flick.

I feel like Wild Wild West was widely-derided upon initial release because it wasn't enough like either the TV show, which was before my time and I never caught it in reruns, or because it wasn't enough like Men in Black, but it's a movie some people have come to appreciate more in retrospect for at least being imaginative and weird. Maybe I think of it as an interesting failure, but "interesting failure" isn't necessarily a negative as it's better than being mediocre and forgettable.

Its an okay movie with some memorable visuals imo. Many complain about it not being enough like the original show, but as a fan of the original show myself, it actually did a decent job of continuing the whole scifi/supernatural theme that made the show unique for its time, what with it basically being the progenitor that popularized steampunk and fantasy westerns, elements which the show itself foolishly abandoned in its final season to be more like other generic westerns; so if anything was being unfaithful to the original show, it was the show itself what with drama between the creative heads behind the scenes.

My only issues with the movie though were that it felt like it was trying too hard to be like MIB to leech off its success rather than try and be its own thing, and it might've been better off if the main characters were not re-imaginings of the original characters and instead had been unrelated characters that were a part of a different branch of the same secret service as the original MCs, but that's all relatively minor. My real issue though is that the re-imagining of the main villain in the film feels more like a parody of the original in the role of some southern confederate stereotype with a generic mad scientist shtick, while the original villain in the show was a literal mental midget and victim of society with a twisted sense of justice made worse by a bloated sense of self-entitlement with a dash of tard rage.

Still the top hat, wheelchair, spider-theme and the 'STACHE were pretty damn swanky. So much so that much like with the MCs, the guy could've been his own unique character.

Dude's got style, and its another example of where the movie shines most, visuals.

 

[Gar For Archer]

Here’s a big one: the Star Wars movies don’t hold up if you’re watching them for the first time today, and people love them primarily because it’s what they grew up with (back in an era where they were groundbreaking and revolutionary) or because it’s what their parents grew up with and thus they saw it a bunch of times as a kid.

I saw the movies for the first time shortly after TFA came out (after it came to be known among my friends that I’d never actually watched Star Wars). In this friend group there was one girl who was an ardent fan of the series, some others who were positive/indifferent about it and another dude who like me hadn’t watched it before. After marathoning the OT, we were both decidedly unimpressed.

The old practical effects (combined with the dated Special Edition CGI) were just janky enough to pull me out of the experience, and the story wasn’t really anything special. It probably also didn’t help that Darth Vader being Luke’s father - which I’m sure was an absolutely epic twist at the time - has now become an anti-spoiler on par with Rosebud being the name of his sled.

Usually, with old movies/media, I think for them to stand the test of time they need to have at least one aspect where they go above and beyond. With Star Wars, I just thought everything was like... okay, maybe even good at times, but nothing really stood out. The only scene I remember genuinely being kinda excited during was the Death Star trench run. That’s still an excellent sequence that holds up today, but one scene isn’t gonna carry a trilogy of movies.

I definitely get why Star Wars is as popular as it is, but I think it’s a phenomenon with a definite expiration date because while it may have been the first to put the pieces together to make a samurai movie in space, nothing on its own was exceptionally outstanding, and the one genuinely great twist has been spoiled beyond belief by its own popularity.

Also gonna second the opinion that I also found LOTR to be a completely boring slog that went on for way too long. But I’m not big on high fantasy and never read the books, so it’s whatever.

 

[Pokemonquistador2]

Here’s a big one: the Star Wars movies don’t hold up if you’re watching them for the first time today, and people love them primarily because it’s what they grew up with (back in an era where they were groundbreaking and revolutionary) or because it’s what their parents grew up with and thus they saw it a bunch of times as a kid.

I saw the movies for the first time shortly after TFA came out (after it came to be known among my friends that I’d never actually watched Star Wars). In this friend group there was one girl who was an ardent fan of the series, some others who were positive/indifferent about it and another dude who like me hadn’t watched it before. After marathoning the OT, we were both decidedly unimpressed.

The old practical effects (combined with the dated Special Edition CGI) were just janky enough to pull me out of the experience, and the story wasn’t really anything special. It probably also didn’t help that Darth Vader being Luke’s father - which I’m sure was an absolutely epic twist at the time - has now become an anti-spoiler on par with Rosebud being the name of his sled.

Usually, with old movies/media, I think for them to stand the test of time they need to have at least one aspect where they go above and beyond. With Star Wars, I just thought everything was like... okay, maybe even good at times, but nothing really stood out. The only scene I remember genuinely being kinda excited during was the Death Star trench run. That’s still an excellent sequence that holds up today, but one scene isn’t gonna carry a trilogy of movies.

I definitely get why Star Wars is as popular as it is, but I think it’s a phenomenon with a definite expiration date because while it may have been the first to put the pieces together to make a samurai movie in space, nothing on its own was exceptionally outstanding, and the one genuinely great twist has been spoiled beyond belief by its own popularity.

Also gonna second the opinion that I also found LOTR to be a completely boring slog that went on for way too long. But I’m not big on high fantasy and never read the books, so it’s whatever.

The issue with all genre movies is that they are products of their own time. The reason why Star Wars resonated so much with people in the late 20th century is because

(A.) They were an earnest affirmation of heroicism during a time when people were getting tired of gritty, cynical, post-Nixon media,

(B.) they were such a revolution in visual effects that they had a factor that's hard to conceive of today. ( Jurassic Park was the last film to really have that Wow factor because, it was a revolution in CG the way Star Wars was a revolution in optical Effects)

(C.) Society was still largely locked into the mindset of the early 20th Century (with some post-60's mindset creeping in.) Most writers who worked in media during the 70's had either fought in WW2 or had Dads who did, Things like patriotism, reverence for religion, ancient wisdom, traditional masculinity, and a strongly defined idea of good and evil were still in play back then. Not so much today. People look at Star Wars now the same way people used to look at 60s-inspired Sci-Fi like Moon Zero Two or the Jetsons: as something that's dated conceptually and aesthetically and that wrongly assumed that gender roles and societal assumptions wouldn't change. This is the danger of Science Fiction: it can make amazingly accurate predictions about the future and even inspire future technology, but it's doing so with a lens fixed at a specific point in time. It's always going to become dated and uncool. For the longest time, people thought Star Wars would be immune to this. I'll admit, the production team for the Original Trilogy went out of their way to future-proof the movie - giving it a "used future" aesthetic for the rundown areas of the setting, a clean minimalist look for the cleaner parts of the setting, Asian and vintage inspired uniform designs, and some of the most original and iconic spaceship designs ever conceived. Sure, some of the clothing and haircuts look really 70's, but overall, Star Wars truly did look different from most other Sci Fi of the time. (This was mainly due to the fact that pre-SW Sci Fi shows and movies had trouble getting large budgets and had to play it as cheap as possible, using whatever was available.)

The decline of Star Wars as a cultural institution isn't due to its quality, it's just a sign that times change and people's tastes alter to whatever's popular, new, and esteemed. Entertainment technology has also moved on, and a film like Star Wars can seem like weaksauce to a kid who grew up playing arena fighters that have been designed to stimulate his reward centers and watching prestige TV series crammed with envelope-pushing content.

 

[Frank D'arbo]

The Edge of Seventeen was great, idgaf if its a chick movie.

 

[CloacaRimjob]

It has basically a meme status, but The crying game would be a true tearjerker and all time classic, as in one of the best films of all time, in my opinion, if Forrest Whitaker died differently and Dil didn't have a knob.

Maybe make it Fergus argues for a bit with Jody trying to set him free when he's supposed to shoot him but his IRA handlers check up on him and he has to shoot Jody lest he be killed himself.... and THEN he'll be compelled to look after Jody's missus since he was directly responsible for his death and holds himself accountable for it instead of the wierd shit in the film.

CloacaRimjob said:
It's almost as if god himself was punishing Jody fucking troons by knocking him down with a saxon at that precise point in time, what are the odds?

I always thought the plot must be a copy of an older film like the way the plot goes

1: soldier captures enemy
2: soldier makes friends with enemy
3: enemy promises soldier to take care of enemies wife should anything happen to him
4: enemy dies
5: soldier, wracked with grief goes to enemies hometown years later to meet wife
6: soldier and wife fall in love
7: wife finds out what soldier done
8: ........... (wife doesnt have cock, thats for sure)
9: profit?????

When I was watching the film I was hooked, the bleakness, the depressing soundtrack, then once you seen the cock surprise you're like nah fuck off, probably should be spoilered but it's basically Vader being Luke's father, I should have known when Ace Ventura played the theme song to to it, never really knew to expect though, in a film where the themes were the IRA and trannies

 

[Deftones]

Here’s a big one: the Star Wars movies don’t hold up if you’re watching them for the first time today, and people love them primarily because it’s what they grew up with (back in an era where they were groundbreaking and revolutionary) or because it’s what their parents grew up with and thus they saw it a bunch of times as a kid.

I saw the movies for the first time shortly after TFA came out (after it came to be known among my friends that I’d never actually watched Star Wars). In this friend group there was one girl who was an ardent fan of the series, some others who were positive/indifferent about it and another dude who like me hadn’t watched it before. After marathoning the OT, we were both decidedly unimpressed.

The old practical effects (combined with the dated Special Edition CGI) were just janky enough to pull me out of the experience, and the story wasn’t really anything special. It probably also didn’t help that Darth Vader being Luke’s father - which I’m sure was an absolutely epic twist at the time - has now become an anti-spoiler on par with Rosebud being the name of his sled.

Usually, with old movies/media, I think for them to stand the test of time they need to have at least one aspect where they go above and beyond. With Star Wars, I just thought everything was like... okay, maybe even good at times, but nothing really stood out. The only scene I remember genuinely being kinda excited during was the Death Star trench run. That’s still an excellent sequence that holds up today, but one scene isn’t gonna carry a trilogy of movies.

I definitely get why Star Wars is as popular as it is, but I think it’s a phenomenon with a definite expiration date because while it may have been the first to put the pieces together to make a samurai movie in space, nothing on its own was exceptionally outstanding, and the one genuinely great twist has been spoiled beyond belief by its own popularity.

Now that's probably the reason why I was never able to get into the OG trilogy. I always tried chalking up as not caring for the sequels either, but there was always something that turned me off from the old ones, too. Guess I'm not much of a blockbusters fan.

 

[albert chan]

Do The Right Thing was a very overrated movie that was done by Spike Lee. Clockers and 25th Hour were much better than that film.

 

[Android raptor]

The Star Wars sequel trilogy isnt bad but TROS was weak. Rey isn't Mary Sue, at least no more than Luke or Anakin.

James Bond is just Twilight for dudes. Nothing wrong with enjoying it, just that it's low-brow Mary Sue escapism like Twilight is. It's just aimed at a different demographic is all.

Twister is a bad movie but it will always be one of the most nostalgic things ever for me because it was the first PG13 movie I was allowed to watch (my dad recorded it on VHS when I was like 7, me and my sister would watch it literally every day for a while).

I do not care for The Land Before Time. Yes, even the first one.

 

[ZehnBoat]

Rey isn't Mary Sue, at least no more than Luke or Anakin.

i'm sorry are you retarded

 

[starborn427614]

i'm sorry are you retarded

It's the unpopular opinion thread, let him have his say.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I enjoyed Wild Wild West, The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, and Van Helsing unironically.

Expanding upon that, I unironically prefer the LXG movie to the Alan Moore comics in every way.

 

[Calandrino]

Rey isn't Mary Sue, at least no more than Luke or Anakin.

i'm sorry are you retarded

Rey is definitely not a Mary Sue because Mary Sues are self-insert characters created by fans out of love. Rey is more like a feminist version of Poochie. The Last Jedi is 150+ minutes of Luke Skywalker driving towards the fireworks factory and never getting there because Rey is doing flips on a skateboard.

 

[Android raptor]

Rey is definitely not a Mary Sue because Mary Sues are self-insert characters created by fans out of love. Rey is more like a feminist version of Poochie. The Last Jedi is 150+ minutes of Luke Skywalker driving towards the fireworks factory and never getting there because Rey is doing flips on a skateboard.

Nah I think she's an ok character, and people just hate her because she's new and every new SW movie is treated as the worst thing ever until another one comes out.

People take SW way too seriously. It's just fun space wizard toy commercials. The protagonists always do some crazy shit, hell Anakin probably does shit 10× as crazy as the shit Rey does in TPM as a child. And back then people were acting the exact same way they currently act about the ST with the prequels.

I didn't watch SW until I was an adult. I think a lot of the fanboys shitting their pants in rage over every new thing that comes out is due to people having their nostalgia goggles on way too tight. Nothing will ever be as good as the OT was when you were a kid, and the best Star Wars content will always be whatever games you played with your toys as a kid. It's dumb to get as butthurt as people get over it.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I think Roger Corman is unironically a brilliant filmmaker