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Android raptor

"an honest-to-God BPD womanchild misanthrope"
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Okay, so everyone loves Prince of Egypt. That's not a controversial or unpopular thought.

I'll take it a step above that and say that I think Prince of Egypt is the greatest animated film ever made fucking FIGHT ME. More than anything Disney has ever contributed to the medium. It was so good that it made me religious again after my atheistic college years.
I can't say it was good enough to make me religious, but yeah it's a damn good film and it's a shame DreamWorks 2D animation never really went anywhere afterwards.

I miss Western 2D animated films so much :(
 

Drag-on Knight 91873

"Listen man, it's complicated."
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50s B movie science fiction are vastly superior to 80s B movie sci-fi that RLM recommends. I'm well aware 50s B movies generally require people in labs talking about what's going on, but those actors are able to carry and maintain the tension that a horror movie requires. 80s B movies like Elves just have shitty effects.

Aside from Thunderpants, I have not enjoyed one RLM movie recommendation.
 
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Kornula

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50s B movie science fiction are vastly superior to 80s B movie sci-fi that RLM recommends. I'm well aware 50s B movies generally require people in labs talking about what's going on, but those actors are able to carry and maintain the tension that a horror movie requires. 80s B movies like Elves just have shitty effects.

Aside from Thunderpants, I have not enjoyed one RLM movie recommendation.
PREACH IT, BROTHER! (or sister...don't want to "mis-gender" you)
 

Product Placement

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CGI animation is hitting a breaking point, you do have studios like Disney that have their own art style but most CGI movies between different studios end up having the same generic art style and every year more of these movies are made due to the continuing low cost of CGI animation and place like Netflix wanting content but not caring about quality. So you get a range of these shit such as Uglydoll or Arctic Dogs that hit cinemas (note both of these flopped at cinemas) to ones like The Donkey King that are VoD and streaming.
It clear most of these type movies are done to make a quick buck by tricking kids into watch them or more so getting parents to put on what ever one is on Netflix to shit up their brat. This isn't just happening with smaller studios, take WB, they did the same generic art style with SCOOB, a movie that was meant to start a cinematic universe, I don't get it, if you want to create a cinematic universe wouldn't you want it to stand out and easiest way to stand out in animation is well a good art style. But outside Lego Movie and the first Happy Feet, WB animation really hasn't had many hits, not so many flops just nothing huge box office wise and it's clear the art style is one of the major reasons for this.

And most of these movies have as much care put into the story and characters as they do in the animation, so quality ranging from meh to down right awful but never good. It's not even that these movies are just bad, they are soulless. Both Disney and Pixar have made many bad animated movies, but it always feels like there is some care and love by at least the animators are put into those movies even when they turn out shit or motivated just by profit like with Toy Story 4. One of the only studio not following this is weirdly Sony, which is trying out new stuff with their animation especially after the Emoji Movie, and while I disagree with people who act like Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse or The Mitchells vs. the Machines are the next coming of Christ, they do feel fresh.

Just because your biggest audience is children, doesn't mean you shouldn't care about quality. Yes kids are dumb but even them can pick up on the truly awful stuff, plus a lot of movie that targeted children and did well at the time have been forgotten because they weren't good or memorable, but movies that did have that quality have stood the test of time, in fact many movie that are seen as childhood classic originally flopped but found an audience later such as Willy Wonka and The Chocolate Factory, The Wizard of Oz and Pinocchio.

But this just shitting out shit to have content approach is really felt all over Hollywood but is just easier to see in the animation right now. I expect things to go worse when Unreal 5 and other real time graphics engines start being used to make animation for these movies, already been tv shows testing out Unreal 4 for animation, and Disney have used it as well for the live action Star Wars shows, and with Unreal 5 putting out much higher quality graphics and being designed with Hollywood in mind from the start, expect way more shit, real time rending is just that much cheaper and faster, especially when effects and lighting are built in.
 
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Autumnal Equinox

Non ducor, duco
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I love the 1978 version of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, but I never understood why so many people got freaked out by the dog with the human face. Yeah it could be creepy, but the fucking banjo music that starts playing when it shows up makes me crack up and ruins the atmosphere. What could have been a disturbing scene just becomes what happens when you leave a white girl alone with her dog
 

Duncan Hills Coffee

Whaddya mean booze ain't food?!
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A Million Ways to Die in the West is okay. It did go on a bit too long and it's strange how much it fellates Seth MacFarland's character, but I thought the funny bits hit the mark and it got a few big laughs out of me. I did go in with fairly low expectations, but I was surprised that I enjoyed it as much as I did.
 

Mary the Goldsmith

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Honestly Wakanda looks like a shithole, I'm not talking about their politics or anything, the city itself when the streets are shown looks like your stereotypical third world shithole, and yet this is supposed to be some sort of Utopia, that got tons of niggers fantasying about living there, and yet I barely see the appeal, is it because I'm white?
 

Drag-on Knight 91873

"Listen man, it's complicated."
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Honestly Wakanda looks like a shithole, I'm not talking about their politics or anything, the city itself when the streets are shown looks like your stereotypical third world shithole, and yet this is supposed to be some sort of Utopia, that got tons of niggers fantasying about living there, and yet I barely see the appeal, is it because I'm white?
Given how they treat their neighbors, the Ethopians, the Wakandans legitimately are a racist society that has no concern for the outside world. European colonization? They're using guns and that's primitive.
 

Kornula

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50s B movie science fiction are vastly superior to 80s B movie sci-fi that RLM recommends. I'm well aware 50s B movies generally require people in labs talking about what's going on, but those actors are able to carry and maintain the tension that a horror movie requires. 80s B movies like Elves just have shitty effects.

Aside from Thunderpants, I have not enjoyed one RLM movie recommendation.
Krull is a flawless example of your take on 80s SciFi/Fantasy movies.
 

Drag-on Knight 91873

"Listen man, it's complicated."
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Krull is a flawless example of your take on 80s SciFi/Fantasy movies.
Krull is on the high end of bad 80s B movies where it came close to being like Star Wars, but never found its audience. A 50s movie that would beat Krull would be in the league of Them!* or Forbidden Planet.

The average RLM B-movie that I was thinking about is more like Alienator, Tammy and the T-Rex, or Elves where the stories are outright bad and the visual effects are worse. Those movies, despite having 30 years of more advanced technology, are terrible compared to most 50s sci-fi. You can give Tammy and the T-Rex a $200 million budget and it'll still be shit. Give Them! a $200 million budget and it turns into Starship Troopers.

Part of why RLM's own movies outright suck is because they aim low and miss. The story in Space Cop is supposed to be bad 80s sci fi, but the story being told is itself not that interesting. A bored, careless cop travels back in time and teams up with a goofy detective from the past to find out an alien plot. It's because the 80s sci-fi influence isn't trying to ask any deep questions or explore any themes. Alienator is practically two different movies given how separate the Jan Michael Vincent and the woods scenes are. Even a "dumb" movie like Them! seriously asked the question, "What if giant ants were real?" and proceeded to show through scientific inferences how such creatures would react to the world.

*Which happens to be a good Starship Troopers prequel.
 

Kornula

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Krull is on the high end of bad 80s B movies where it came close to being like Star Wars, but never found its audience. A 50s movie that would beat Krull would be in the league of Them!* or Forbidden Planet.

The average RLM B-movie that I was thinking about is more like Alienator, Tammy and the T-Rex, or Elves where the stories are outright bad and the visual effects are worse. Those movies, despite having 30 years of more advanced technology, are terrible compared to most 50s sci-fi. You can give Tammy and the T-Rex a $200 million budget and it'll still be shit. Give Them! a $200 million budget and it turns into Starship Troopers.

Part of why RLM's own movies outright suck is because they aim low and miss. The story in Space Cop is supposed to be bad 80s sci fi, but the story being told is itself not that interesting. A bored, careless cop travels back in time and teams up with a goofy detective from the past to find out an alien plot. It's because the 80s sci-fi influence isn't trying to ask any deep questions or explore any themes. Alienator is practically two different movies given how separate the Jan Michael Vincent and the woods scenes are. Even a "dumb" movie like Them! seriously asked the question, "What if giant ants were real?" and proceeded to show through scientific inferences how such creatures would react to the world.

*Which happens to be a good Starship Troopers prequel.
I reccomend you go back and re watch Krull. The effects are HORRIBLE. There is a "story" that makes little to no sense. The Krull itself makes no sense.
 

Drag-on Knight 91873

"Listen man, it's complicated."
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I reccomend you go back and re watch Krull. The effects are HORRIBLE. There is a "story" that makes little to no sense. The Krull itself makes no sense.
I did look at clips of it just before I wrote the comparison. The effects are okay to good. Makeup is pretty good too. It's just that the story is lacking, which I agree is what's important. It's as if they just grabbed a Hero's Journey template and stuck those plot points into the movie without seriously asking, "How DO aliens and lasers fit into this fantasy story?"

The typical 50s B movie did have spotty effects and it isn't until Star Wars did visual effects get good enough to convey what they wanted to show on screen, but they made up for it by having interesting stories. 80s movies tried to go the opposite way by having fundamentally dumb stories. Shakma is always going to be a stupid story and shitty effects happen to go along with it.
 

Kornula

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I did look at clips of it just before I wrote the comparison. The effects are okay to good. Makeup is pretty good too. It's just that the story is lacking, which I agree is what's important. It's as if they just grabbed a Hero's Journey template and stuck those plot points into the movie without seriously asking, "How DO aliens and lasers fit into this fantasy story?"

The typical 50s B movie did have spotty effects and it isn't until Star Wars did visual effects get good enough to convey what they wanted to show on screen, but they made up for it by having interesting stories. 80s movies tried to go the opposite way by having fundamentally dumb stories. Shakma is always going to be a stupid story and shitty effects happen to go along with it.
I watched the whole thing last year (had not seen it since I saw it in the theater wayyyy back in 1982) The trailer shows the only good effects. The rest of the movie - like the beginning where the hero puts his hand into lava to pull out the Krull is laughably silly. When they ride the "fire horses" it is the worst optical effect ..given that it's supposed to be a huge budget epic.
 
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