Unpopular views about music -

[EmpireOfTheClouds]

this is just a handful of popular rap songs that would end ruining a generation of young George Floyds that want to get away with crime while not realizing that streaming video makes it impossible to do

What a lot of people fail to realize about 90s gangsta rap is thst most of it is meant to be a cautionary tale about the dangers of said lifestyle. Fuck sake, arguably the most popular GR song (Gangsta's Paradise) begins with the narrator admitting he may as well die because he's wasted his life.

 

[L50LasPak]

What a lot of people fail to realize about 90s gangsta rap is thst most of it is meant to be a cautionary tale about the dangers of said lifestyle. Fuck sake, arguably the most popular GR song (Gangsta's Paradise) begins with the narrator admitting he may as well die because he's wasted his life.

I'm not a fan of rap, so I feel particularly unqualified to voice this opinion, but I feel its a modern tragedy that the rap genre lost this point of view. 90s rap had a kind of frightening visceral aspect to it that, even if I didn't actually enjoy the music, I could still admire from a conceptual level. Its profoundly disappointing that was basically tossed by the wayside in favor of fantasy stories about getting rich and banging hoes, or vaguely nihlistic rants about how the world is depressing.

I confess I never took rap seriously, which I regret because its kind of too late. Modern rap doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

 

[Antarctic Hellbeast]

What a lot of people fail to realize about 90s gangsta rap is thst most of it is meant to be a cautionary tale about the dangers of said lifestyle. Fuck sake, arguably the most popular GR song (Gangsta's Paradise) begins with the narrator admitting he may as well die because he's wasted his life.

sick of niggers and cunts boosting CRap music.

 

[Dysnomia]

I don't get the fuss over him smoking weed. It's not like he's robbing banks or shooting people! He's not driving drunk or taking bath salts and eating people's faces off.

Isn't he involved in some nutty church? I think it's Hillsong. CDAN had a blind about his management thinking about rebranding him as a Christian singer but I don't know if I buy it.

 

[EmpireOfTheClouds]

I'm not a fan of rap, so I feel particularly unqualified to voice this opinion, but I feel its a modern tragedy that the rap genre lost this point of view. 90s rap had a kind of frightening visceral aspect to it that, even if I didn't actually enjoy the music, I could still admire from a conceptual level. Its profoundly disappointing that was basically tossed by the wayside in favor of fantasy stories about getting rich and banging hoes, or vaguely nihlistic rants about how the world is depressing.

I confess I never took rap seriously, which I regret because its kind of too late. Modern rap doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

I don't particularly go out of my way to listen to rap nowadays, because it feels like when one particular subgenre gets popular (Trap being the most obvious example) it becomes the byword for the genre. I think it's kind of depressing that acts like Death Grips and Run the Jewels are considered "different" when the reality is, such a phenomenon is proof that very few artists are willing in the genre to step outside the box.

I probably wouldn't have this opinion too if Rap wasn't 90 percent of what gets played on the mainstream.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

Barring a few exceptions, rap music got super fucking dull circa '94 onwards.

 

[EmpireOfTheClouds]

Barring a few exceptions, rap music got super fucking dull circa '94 onwards.

I mean, one of the biggest and longest contributing factors to heavy metal's longevity is the sheer amount of sub genres and different types of metal there is. True, bands like Metallica are going to be what people often point to, but bands like SOAD and A7X, love them or hate them, being pretty big in mainstream rock is quite a remarkable achievement.

 

[Regenbogen]

Barring a few exceptions, rap music got super fucking dull circa '94 onwards.

lol all 90s rap was about white people bad and seething and coping

 

[Mnutu]

Slick Rick is underrated and shouldn’t be remembered for “La-Di Da-Di”, but for “Behind bars”.

 

[Solid Snek]

I'm not a fan of rap, so I feel particularly unqualified to voice this opinion, but I feel its a modern tragedy that the rap genre lost this point of view. 90s rap had a kind of frightening visceral aspect to it that, even if I didn't actually enjoy the music, I could still admire from a conceptual level. Its profoundly disappointing that was basically tossed by the wayside in favor of fantasy stories about getting rich and banging hoes, or vaguely nihlistic rants about how the world is depressing.

I confess I never took rap seriously, which I regret because its kind of too late. Modern rap doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

I'm not a fan of rap, either, but if anyone's interested in hearing an insider's perspective on how and why the 90s rap industry warped into what it is today, I'd recommend looking up podcasts by Public Enemy's former Minister of Information, Professor Griff. I don't have any links handy at the moment, but I've listened to several of his lectures, and they're all pretty informative (and entertaining!)

SPOILER WARNING: it was gay Jewish music executives and the NWO.

 

[Jones McCann]

I don't understand why Nickleback is so hated. I really don't.

Sure "Photograph" isn't a top hit, but it isn't the worst song either. And I kinda like "Rockstar".

 

[Massively Strong Greed]

I actually like the music in Sonic Eraser, it’s hilarious and catchy.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

I hate Christian radio played loudly over a span of 8 fucking hours.
I do not care for Tool nor their music and I prefer to never listen to them.
I like joke bands like The Bloodhound Gang
Musicians that can sing in multiple languages are a-ok. Musicians that get banned from certain countries make me laugh.
Sorry, but black performers shouldn't be in the K-Pop industry no matter how much they want to break barriers. if the staff are literally calling you slurs, within earshot...take the hint and leave.

 

[talk sh1t]

I'm not a fan of rap, either, but if anyone's interested in hearing an insider's perspective on how and why the 90s rap industry warped into what it is today, I'd recommend looking up podcasts by Public Enemy's former Minister of Information, Professor Griff. I don't have any links handy at the moment, but I've listened to several of his lectures, and they're all pretty informative (and entertaining!)

SPOILER WARNING: it was gay Jewish music executives and the NWO.

Yeah I didn't even know about Professor Griff even being an actual member of PE until recently, and when I learned about his whole "controversy", that was a big yikes from me, sweety.
On a side note, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall whenever he and Flav would get into arguments.

 

[Solid Snek]

Yeah I didn't even know about Professor Griff even being an actual member of PE until recently, and when I learned about his whole "controversy", that was a big yikes from me, sweety.
On a side note, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall whenever he and Flav would get into arguments.

Yeah, Griff has some polarizing views. He's like the black Varg; he's had several controversies under his belt, but I'm guessing you're referring to the antisemitism accusations? Or the time he beat up Flav?

Speaking of Flav, here's a couple (shortish) vids where Griff discusses his former partner. First one is a "sanitary" version of Griff, where he calls attention to Flav's drug problems, the moral bankruptcy of the music industry, and the hypocrisy of black artists working under it:

And here's the unsanitized version of Griff, taken from one of his lectures, where he rails against race-mixing and unmasks Flav as the unholy incarnation of a Haitian jigaboo deathgod:

I've heard similar arguments from a variety of true school and Afrocentric musicians, but Griff's the guy who really knows how to put on a show.

 

[talk sh1t]

Yeah, Griff has some polarizing views. He's like the black Varg; he's had several controversies under his belt, but I'm guessing you're referring to the antisemitism accusations? Or the time he beat up Flav?

Speaking of Flav, here's a couple (shortish) vids where Griff discusses his former partner. First one is a "sanitary" version of Griff, where he calls attention to Flav's drug problems, the moral bankruptcy of the music industry, and the hypocrisy of black artists working under it:

And here's the unsanitized version of Griff, taken from one of his lectures, where he rails against race-mixing and unmasks Flav as the unholy incarnation of a Haitian jigaboo deathgod:

I've heard similar arguments from a variety of true school and Afrocentric musicians, but Griff's the guy who really knows how to put on a show.

Yeah I was referring to the incident that got him kicked out of the group, where he gave an interview in which he made an off the cuff remark about ze Joos (was it about the slave ships?). Chuck D was kind of forced to throw him under the bus after that.

Thanks for the vids, there's a lot more I need to dig into about PE, hell I still haven't listened to some of their early '90es/late '80es albums. I remember being so confused when I found out about Flav's dumb reality show. Was also kind of disappointed to see PE put out a TDS track (featuring DJ Premier as well), was expecting a more subtle take on MAGA from Chuck D but there you go.

 

[Solid Snek]

Yeah I was referring to the incident that got him kicked out of the group, where he gave an interview in which he made an off the cuff remark about ze Joos (was it about the slave ships?). Chuck D was kind of forced to throw him under the bus after that.

Thanks for the vids, there's a lot more I need to dig into about PE, hell I still haven't listened to some of their early '90es/late '80es albums. I remember being so confused when I found out about Flav's dumb reality show. Was also kind of disappointed to see PE put out a TDS track (featuring DJ Premier as well), was expecting a more subtle take on MAGA from Chuck D but there you go.

Yeah, I know fuckall about PE myself, mostly just interested in the drama lol. My understanding is that Griff only rarely rapped on any PE records. He was their head of security, the dance choreographer, a lyricist, and maybe the chief roadie too? Dude had a military background, was heavily into the Nation of Islam and Black Panthers ideologies, and loved kung fu - he used to perform nunchuk katas at PE shows, iirc, and was a big part of why PE had that radical black, paramilitary feel back in the day.

In fairness to Griff, antisemistism is just part and parcel of the NOI/BP scene; I could understand why Chuck D, a career entertainer with a lot to lose, would want to distance himself from that, but a radical Afrocentrist getting mad at Jews for sticking his ancestors on slave ships is about as surprising as a black metal singer coming out as a Satanist.

Griff's salty as hell, so bear that mind whenever he talks about PE. He's also into all kinds of UFO cult stuff, so don't be surprised if he starts talking about hermetic kabbalah or how white people's brains are too small to communicate with the God Principle. But if you're confused about Flav's subsequent behavior - which is totally understandable! - then Griff's a good source of information on that. Flav was the party animal, Griff was the radical intellectual, and Chuck was the smart business rapper in the middle of them.

 

[talk sh1t]

Yeah, I know fuckall about PE myself, mostly just interested in the drama lol. My understanding is that Griff only rarely rapped on any PE records. He was their head of security, the dance choreographer, a lyricist, and maybe the chief roadie too? Dude had a military background, was heavily into the Nation of Islam and Black Panthers ideologies, and loved kung fu - he used to perform nunchuk katas at PE shows, iirc, and was a big part of why PE had that radical black, paramilitary feel back in the day.

In fairness to Griff, antisemistism is just part and parcel of the NOI/BP scene; I could understand why Chuck D, a career entertainer with a lot to lose, would want to distance himself from that, but a radical Afrocentrist getting mad at Jews for sticking his ancestors on slave ships is about as surprising as a black metal singer coming out as a Satanist.

Griff's salty as hell, so bear that mind whenever he talks about PE. He's also into all kinds of UFO cult stuff, so don't be surprised if he starts talking about hermetic kabbalah or how white people's brains are too small to communicate with the God Principle. But if you're confused about Flav's subsequent behavior - which is totally understandable! - then Griff's a good source of information on that. Flav was the party animal, Griff was the radical intellectual, and Chuck was the smart business rapper in the middle of them.

Lol yeah I kind of got that when he says "so I got out my dictionary of deities". Still you gotta admit, the comparison with the Haitian death god is spot on.

 

[Dyn]

I confess I never took rap seriously, which I regret because its kind of too late. Modern rap doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.

Australian rap has been consistently excellent lately, and UK rap isn't bad either. It's only American rap that's been tired and played-out to the point of near death for the last twenty years.

 

[L50LasPak]

Australian rap has been consistently excellent lately, and UK rap isn't bad either. It's only American rap that's been tired and played-out to the point of near death for the last twenty years.

What do Australians and the British have to rap about? I thought they were both perfect post-scarcity societies with no guncrime, racism or illegal drug use.