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At least I'm not the only one who found this decision baffling.
Everyone who doesn't have a partisan horse in this game knows this decision is rank bullshit and will somehow never be applied to any establishment-aligned decision.

The fact that it was the liberals plus John "There are no Obama judges, no Trump judges" Roberts says it all.

EDIT: As an addendum, Roberts is why you cannot really say there is a conservative majority on the Court until RBG bites it.
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So.. it's still constitutional, right? So, what are they going to do if it's included anyway?

Honestly does there have to be census ? Cant the census simply get delayed due to "Administrative" reasons ?. Until Scoutus Passes it ? Lets Pull Andrew Jackson and reveal Roberts to be shill. also RVG is unkillable monster, Even cancer doesnt want anything with her.


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Honestly does there have to be census ? Cant the census simply get delayed due to "Administrative" reasons ?. Until Scoutus Passes it ? Lets Pull Andrew Jackson and reveal Roberts to be shill. also RVG is unkillable monster, Even cancer doesnt want anything with her.
Yes it's in the Constitution. Hence the supreme Court ruling.

The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years."

Y'all shit talk a lot to know almost nothing. But Jew puns get stickers, so whatever.

Edit: HK nailed the scary part of this decision. This is the first time the Court has ever pulled a "you'd win if we thought you believed your argument" card. They just invented an entirely new standard of review based on feelings. Libs and Cons should be absolutely terrified.
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The Trump administration says the 2020 Census questionnaire is moving ahead without a question about citizenship.
That’s according to an attorney for a civil rights group that helped fight the addition of the question.
Kristen Clarke said Tuesday that Trump administration attorneys notified parties in lawsuits challenging the question that the printing of the hundreds of millions of documents for the 2020 counts would be starting soon.
The White House didn’t immediately comment on the decision. President Donald Trump has decried last week’s Supreme Court ruling saying the question was sought under a false pretext.
Spokespeople for the U.S. Census Bureau have not responded to emails or phone calls seeking comment.

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Trump Administration Abandons Census Citizenship Question After Supreme Court Defeat
People gather in front of the Supreme Court after several decisions were handed down on June 27, 2019. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)

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July 02, 20195:18 PM ET
  • The 2020 census form will not feature a citizenship question following the government’s defeat before the Supreme Court on June 27, the Trump administration announced Tuesday.
  • Though the government could have pursued another legal battle, officials said time did not allow for further litigation.
  • The announcement might conclude a bitter dispute between the administration and House Democrats, who are investigating the origins of the citizenship question.
The Trump administration will not include a citizenship question on the 2020 census form, the Justice Department said Tuesday.
The decision comes after the Supreme Court found Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross concealed his reasons for adding the citizenship question, and cleared the way for further proceedings. The Commerce Department supervises the Census Bureau.

“The decision has been made to print the 2020 decennial census questionnaire without a citizenship question,” a Justice Department lawyer wrote in an email shared on Twitter. “The printer has been instructed to begin the printing process.”
A Justice Department spokesperson confirmed the government’s plans to the Daily Caller News Foundation.
Ross confirmed the news in a statement, promising to complete a precise count.
“I respect the Supreme Court but strongly disagree with its ruling regarding my decision to reinstate a citizenship question on the 2020 Census,” the secretary said.
“The Census Bureau has started the process of printing the decennial questionnaires without the question,” Ross added. “My focus, and that of the Bureau and the entire Department is to conduct a complete and accurate census.”
The case proceeded through the federal courts on an expedited basis due to time constraints. Government lawyers said the Census Bureau needed to finalize the questionnaire by July 1 to ensure timely printing and distribution. The Supreme Court agreed to hear the case in an accelerated procedural posture given the press of time.
However, some census officials suggested the government could delay printing until October, raising the prospect that the government could ultimately add the citizenship question if it prevailed in another round of litigation.
The government’s announcement came shortly before a scheduled conference in a separate legal challenge to the citizenship question before a federal court in Maryland. That case addresses late-breaking allegations that top Trump officials conspired with a Republican redistricting consultant to include the citizenship question for partisan reasons. That issue, likely mooted by Tuesday’s decision, never reached the Supreme Court.

The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which helped lead a large plaintiffs coalition to challenge the citizenship question, said Tuesday’s decision struck a blow for fair play.
“In light of the Supreme Court’s ruling, the Trump administration had no choice but to proceed with printing the 2020 census forms without a citizenship question,” said ACLU lawyer Dale Ho, who argued the census case before the justices. “Everyone in America counts in the census, and today’s decision means we all will.” (RELATED: Supreme Court To Decide On Trump’s Power To End DACA)
Dale Ho of the ACLU flanked by New York Attorney General Letitia James (L) and New York City census director Julie Menin (R) speaks to reporters outside of the Supreme Court on April 23, 2019. (Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images)

Dale Ho of the ACLU flanked by New York Attorney General Letitia James (L) and New York City census director Julie Menin (R) speaks to reporters outside of the Supreme Court on April 23, 2019. (Mandel Ngan/AFP/Getty Images)
The Commerce Department said it was collecting citizenship data to help the Justice Department improve enforcement of the Voting Rights Act (VRA). In his opinion for the high court, Chief Justice John Roberts called that explanation “a distraction,” saying government officials must give legitimate reasons for their actions to ensure proper supervision by courts.
“Unlike a typical case in which an agency may have both stated and unstated reasons for a decision, here the VRA enforcement rationale — the sole stated reason — seems to have been contrived,” Roberts wrote.
“If judicial review is to be more than an empty ritual, it must demand something better than the explanation offered for the action taken in this case,” he wrote elsewhere in the decision.
The high court’s liberals formed a majority with the chief to find that Ross was concealing his rationale, while the conservatives joined portions of Roberts’s opinion rejecting other complaints the plaintiffs lodged. For example, the Court rejected arguments that the citizenship question violates the Constitution’s enumeration clause, which requires an “actual enumeration” of persons.
The plaintiffs said the citizenship question would depress participation, particularly among immigrant communities, and cited studies to that effect. The Court dismissed that claim, however, noting demographic questions have appeared on the questionnaire for decades. Citizenship questions in particular are a common feature of census forms in other countries. What’s more, it is illegal under the Census Act for the bureau to share its data with law enforcement.
The administration’s retreat adds uncertainty to an escalating fight between the White House and House Democrats over a congressional subpoena for documents relating to the census. The House Oversight Committee voted to hold Ross and Attorney General William Barr in contempt of Congress for failing to comply with its subpoenas in June. That move came after President Donald Trump claimed executive privilege over the materials Democrats are seeking.
Democrats said Trump’s decision kept with a pattern of obfuscation, while administration officials and their Republican allies in Congress said the Department was engaging in good faith negotiations over the scope of document production with the Oversight Committee was abusing the contempt power.
The trajectory of that dispute is unclear, now that the Commerce Department has abandoned its plans.
Trump suggested he would delay the 2020 census until the dispute is resolved in a pair of tweets following Thursday’s decision.
The Constitution requires a census once per decade to apportion seats in Congress among the states. Federal funding is also awarded on the basis of population.
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What the fuck do you think the nomination and election of Donald Trump was? That was the conservative base drawing a line in the sand and saying, "We've had enough. Y'all wanna play hardball? Very well. Let's play."

-Dems butthurt about Merrick Garland so they filibuster Gorsuch? Fuck it. We'll go nuclear.
-Dems trot out random women to accuse Kavanaugh of rape? Don't care, we'll confirm him anyway.
-Home state Senators object to federal judge appointment? Fuck tradition, we'll confirm them anyway.
-Democratic presidential candidates can't make a vote because they're campaigning? Oh well.
-Dems subpoena Bill Barr to testify before the House? Fuck y'all, he ain't going.
-Dems subpoena Trump to turn over documents? Fuck y'all, executive privilege.
-Dems attempt to ruin Bill Barr's reputation? Fuck it, everybody dies.
-Pelosi wants a humanitarian bill for the border with ridiculous conditions attached? Fuck y'all, it's the Senate bill or nothing.
-The House passes all this ridiculous socialist legislation? Fuck it, it ain't even getting voted on in the Senate.

We ain't fucking around. Why do you think Trump's GOP approval is holding steady at 90% practically his whole term despite all the bad press the mainstream media puts out? That remaining 10% still doesn't know this is a war, but the rest of us do.
So this is the line in the sand? Jeez. Maybe the person you were replying to had a point.

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