War US to let Turkish forces move into Syria, dumping Kurdish allies - White House reveals policy shift, which follows conversation between Trump and Erdoğan

What should the Kurds do?


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Manwithn0n0men

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All that America would have had to do to stop ISIS years ago would be to get Saudi Arabia to stop supplying them with weapons and Israel to stop providing them with air support and medical assistance, and just let Syria and Russia and Iran take care of the problem.

As the former was not done, it has taken the latter somewhat longer to deal with the issue.
>What if I told you in the Obama years Russia was working with Isis
 

Freedom Fries

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>What if I told you in the Obama years Russia was working with Isis
I'm pretty sure that was us fam.

The Kurds aren't going to be genocided. They will probably just be repressed a bit, and this land wasn't theirs until the Syrian conflict anyway. If the Kurds wanted a better position regarding being protected from the Turks, they probably shouldn't have repeatedly bombed Turkish civilians.
 

Manwithn0n0men

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I'm pretty sure that was us fam.

The Kurds aren't going to be genocided. They will probably just be repressed a bit, and this land wasn't theirs until the Syrian conflict anyway. If the Kurds wanted a better position regarding being protected from the Turks, they probably shouldn't have repeatedly bombed Turkish civilians.
It was both

ISIS/Al-Qaeda/Hamas/etc....terrorist organizations are whores when it come to the great powers
 

BONE_Buddy

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To give everyone an update,

The initial assaults by a vanguard Turkish backed "Free Syrian Army" Jihadist have begun. Relatively light Turkish force presence. Close air support has been a joke so far. Large numbers of civilians joining the fight against the Turks. Anti-Turk forces have taken less attrition than expected.

Screen grabs from Livemap. Despite all of its problems as a source, it is still one of the best resource for territory control maps.
Legend

First up, overall region:
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First up is Tel Abyad/Akçakale region, the westernmost territorial incursion. Extremely heavy fighting (at least for the region). The two cities have been trading artillery fire across the border.

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Next, Ceylanpinar/ Ras-al-Ayn
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Finally, there is Diwar in the far northeast of Syria, looks like they want to cut off the peninsula.

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Sorry for not reporting in much detail, as those reports that are available are sketchy at best.
 

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Marchesa_ofthe_Vast

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Didn't the Kurds disarm the Assyrians and other minority groups only to retreat and leave them at the mercy of ISIS a few years back?
But no, Kurds are westernized good bois :(

It ain't the first time they've fucked over and helped genocide their Christian neighbors though. Who do you think was boots on the ground for the Ottoman genocides?
 

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