VAC Banned - I got Banned but I only downloaded cheats

[Toyber]

So I see these all the time on Steam and a lot of people always slip up about using cheats on games:
here are some examples of this salt: http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/9/
From CS;GO to Overwatch, the amount of salt in these forums are enough to fill up a cill. And the best part about this is that everyone who complains about getting VACCed ends up admitting to using some sort of cheat either in the background or having it installed.

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Chimping out at people for giving advice:

 

[r4ndom]

who cares enough about a game to whine about it, if you cant play there are literally thousands of other ones you can play.

 

[AnOminous]

Anyone who gets caught cheating is a scrub.

 

[Urban Superstition]

And if you're using a cheat to see how it works/show others how to catch a cheater, use a dummy account so your real one doesn't get banned.

 

[AnOminous]

And if you're using a cheat to see how it works/show others how to catch a cheater, use a dummy account so your real one doesn't get banned.

It's so sad how unfair it is that all these people who were just trying to show someone how to catch cheaters end up banned on Steam. Never mind the poor noble people who were performing a social experiment. Or who kindly let their little brother borrow their account and he somehow installed cheats.

 

[Burgers in the ass]

Worst offenders of this type of salt are tf2 hackers, since that game is free.

 

[The Nameless One]

I forgot about VAC. I used to play Counterstrike: Source a lot 10+ years ago and remember people bitching about VAC all the time.

When you get VAC banned, it should just say "git gud"

 

[CrunkLord420]

I'm always scared to leave Steam running because I have cracked steam games and I do super neckbeard shit that Steam would almost certainly flag me for if I ran them against VAC-protected games. (eg. NVIDIA's NSight debugger stuff essentially has built-in wallhacks).

Despite even accidentally launching games with cracked steam_api.dll files with Steam running I haven't been touched by Valve in any way.

 

[Burgers in the ass]

https://www.change.org/p/valve-corporation-unfair-steam-valve-anti-cheat-ban-firefox-and-focs

 

[BadaBadaBoom]

This desperately needs a dramatic reading.

 

[Burgers in the ass]

This desperately needs a dramatic reading.

That sounds unintentionally poetic.

 

[TDILindsay]

Hearts means they swore

 

[LisaFrank]

I remember a while back when Valve upped the detection on VAC and a bunch of TF2 players got banned there was some excellent salt.

God there was one guy with hundreds of dollars in hats who changed his steam profile to something along the lines of "I dont care, I wanted to get banned!" or something like that. Wish I could find the screenshot.

 

[Cubanodun]

Wait a minute, we are talking about the same Overwatch of Blizzard? you can play that on steam? is not supposed to be only playable throught battle.net?

 

[GethN7]

The funny thing is that VAC bans only really punish people who hack the game while it's running.

Passive stuff like mods (for say, MGSV: TPP) generally pass VAC checks, so long as they are confined to the client in terms of advantage, like a mod I used that makes gathering resources way less tedious by upping the amount in the crates to the highest it would go. I played online with it and never got screwed over because I wasn't messing with data the server was supposed to be keeping track of while in online mode, all it did was passively increase my personal stock of resources (and there is a cap on that you cannot breach, it's hardcoded), so it doesn't piss off the server admins.

The VAC bans are to keep idiots from dicking with the numbers the server is supposed to be managing, because they want to make sure the playing field is level for all players, and people messing with the data on their game while using the online features will trip the VAC filter because the server detects a discrepancy between what the numbers it has are and what yours are as the data is being monitored by the server.

 

[LisaFrank]

Wait a minute, we are talking about the same Overwatch of Blizzard? you can play that on steam? is not supposed to be only playable throught battle.net?

Overwatch is a self moderation tool for CS go IRRC. If a bunch of people report you for being a dick, you get banned. So no, not the game Overwatch.

 

[Burgers in the ass]

Wait a minute, we are talking about the same Overwatch of Blizzard? you can play that on steam? is not supposed to be only playable throught battle.net?

Correct me if i'm wrong, but overwatch is also a mode in cs:go designed to find hackers by spectating them.

 

[Toyber]

Spoiler: CSGO ban

 

[StoneKnightMan]

I remember that time when vac was very faulty and started vac banning innocent players on CS:GO who did nothing wrong. They took their frustration on valve. They were able to manually unban the players and give them free copies of left 4 dead 2 to make up for what happened.

 

[D.Va]

The best one is the guy with a $12k TF2 inventory who got VACced and posted an autistic obituary on his steam profile

If you are wondering about the TF2 VAC ban, its was an INTENTIONAL decision. I would have easily used an alternate account if I wanted to hack just to piss other people off. I'm actually glad this happened; and here is why. Some things need to be said beforehand so this all makes sense, so I'll try to be brief in each story chunk:

Since 2011ish, things have been slowly going down the shitter in the life of JCapps. Before the downfall though, I picked up TF2 in 2009 when the first halloween update came out and introduced the gibus. No, it was not on this account, but another. That was midway in the period of time when new weapons besides the defaults were being made. Consistant updates really appealed to me sinceeverything was always fresh . I usually was hanging around achievement/idle servers, tf2ware servers, dodgeball servers, and all those other goofy fun modded servers. I barely played on maps that was a PvP objective because I don't like failing or losing . I partially don't like winning either since someone else has to lose. So what did I do? I would spend most of my time running around achievement servers killing bots and spamming pootis, because there are no losers there. Everyone wins.

When the manncostore update came out (which introduced keys and such), thats when things gotreeaally interesting for me since 1) Almost all my items turned vintage 2) You could traaaaaaade 3) Fancy shmancy particle effect hats! At this point I pretty much developed a need to be a collector of stuff . Long story short, I eventually traded up to an unusual in about 2 years, with being scammed out of some of my items on the way. It was an orbiting fire Pugilist's Protector; nothing special in general, but it was special to me because it was a personal goal that I completed . Joyfully showing off my new hat, the unexpected happened...I was VAC banned...for absolutely no reason.

I did not hack at all on that account and I had my first ever unusual removed, so I of course complained to valve. VAC bans as you know are irreversable, so nothing happened. TF2 was the insta-relief game for me, so this got me good. I never thought I'd ever get an unusual or a fancy item again if I started from scratch, so I gave up TF2...aaaaand jumped into a new account a few weeks later (this one). The game was too fun to quit, with all the new mechanics and such, like bosses, even more new weapons, and new voice lines that I'd never get tired of.

Eventually, I was motivated enough to run my own server for awhile, and even make my own maps for it! It was quite loved by many, and to this day some people still want me to reboot my server . Why I took the server down is mildly irrelevant to the story behind this account's VAC, but I just needed to mention it for later use. There is a reason why some things are being underlined, which I will also explain later.

Aside TF2, this was the beginning of the decay of my life. Not because of TF2, but for personal reasons. But with that, having more fancy stuff in TF2 seemed to destress me, after all, I did aquire the collector's craze. There were a few keys moments during this backpack building time period: 1) I've grown the distaste for not just scammers, but sharkers, phishers and price manipulators and anyone greedy as well. I would turn full Phoenix Wright whenever someone tried to pull a yoink on me or one of my friends. 2) I learned that I actually feel bad for making a profit . I actually feel bad for getting a good deal because someone else gets a worse end of the deal. I end up buying things rather than trading this to avoid this. 3) I developed an understanding of why people do certain things . This sudden blast of willingness to hear what people have to say derived from this: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/8051-somewhat-intellectual-conversation-with-a-phisher-rare/ . I was surprised I actually got him to talk with me. Reading this again right now still hits home, as the current USA presidential candidate who supports more affordable college plans is losing the race to corruption (No, I did not complete college). Do i support scamming? Absolutely not. But i get it .

Fast forwarding ALOT, I set my sights on a gold pan and eventually got one by paying with items. It was a massive overpay, but it was worth it. Finally having a gold pan was the biggest highlight in my life. I had a blast with that thing. I already had a houwar at the time, so i took the name of Lord Demopan since i friggen loved the idea of demopans. Everything was great. I got what I wanted...in TF2...not in my life outside of TF2. Again, more ugly personal things kept stacking up. Being the introvertive person that I am really didn't help with these issues.

So, with my life getting shittier, what happened?... What if i could improve my backpack?... since you know, TF2 is the destresser...

I had to make my sets even shinier. How? Well, a sunbeams misc would look nice so my houwar would look glowy. I ended up getting a sunbeams brainiac for engi. It looked sweet as hell....But what about demopan? There is no demoman misc is there? *gasp* What if I got a shiny ALL-CLASS sunbeams misc? I did just that. I spent $3500 on a sunbeams polar pullover that monkey had. He ended up being able to pay of some bills, so that made me happy. BUT! *gasp* What if I glitched professional killstreak kits on all of his stuff too? *gasp* WhatifIhadaustraliumsforeveryonesoTHEYCANBESHINIER*gasp*WHATIFBECAMETHEGUYWITHTHEMOSTEXPENSIVEBACKPACK -
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And it didn't stop...

...Luckily, I realised that it was TF2 that has been applying stress, not relieving it. TF2 was no longer friendly fun, but a struggle to the unreachable.

Look back at everything that was underlined. With all these new gimiks like contracts and upgradable badges, you know I need to reach the highest with everything. If i didn't, in my mind, I'd fail a goal that was "achieveable" since I could buy my way in effortlessly. I wanted this more because of my failure to reboot my server that everyone loved since. I haven't gotten to that after mentioning i'd put it back up after like 5 years since my motivational levels to do anything are at an all-time low. Not wanting to profit from my server didn't help it either. Monthly payments and such disgust me. I'd rather just pay for something once and use it, which is exactly how my server ran. I gave out admin for a few keys, and small perks per server visit were a weapon each. No vip system at all. Everyone loved the way it worked. It even attracted other popular groups and suggested a partnership. They even offered to host my server for me so pings were better. But the stress was too strong. I was demotivated because I was scared that I wouldn't be able to pay off the monthly fee of their server hosting. I was afraid that my regulars would scram once they heard of the new system the server providers had for me.

In a quick summary : I consistanly feel awful when on TF2 for 1) not providing fun to those who just want to have fun, 2) not having the best of the best backpack, because my brain registers it as a complete failure if it isn't, and 3) dumping my money into the game and hoping everything turns out better

So, I sort of recently (comparatively to multiple years) decided to find a way to stop all this, because frankly saying "I quit" isn't going to stop me from coming back. I had to do something to prevent me from trading. The first thought, coming from the shit side of my brain, was to just start scamming. Yea, there's no way in HELL I'm doing that. The next thought was..."what if i just get VAC'd?" That way no one else gets hurt in the process. However, I also had one last goal, and that was to get a burning team captain. It was the "I win TF2" hat after all.

So, I appeased the shit side of my brain and the good side