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It could be that she could really only do her shtick in Japan. They're absolutely crazy for Western type stuff out there. Back in Switzerland she's just some poor slob with no money, no education and no prospects. Short of becoming a sex worker, I don't know what she'd do out there. Whereas in Japan if she does whore herself out she's got the fact that she's not Asian on her side. That makes her special and more unique.

And then don't forget that in staying in Japan her mother can't mess with her anymore. So that's a plus.
Having to give up her uwu schtick would be a huge plus. Her living her life as a gaijin is terrible for her. Her entire life has been living as an outsider or snowflake to garner internet attention. Moving to Switzerland where she could blend in with everyone else, could be an average person and work a normal job would be great for her. Being a gaijin makes her physical appearance paramount in Japan and sets her apart from everyone else. It would be psychological beneficial if the focus was off her physical appearance and blending in with the society around her.

Switzerland pays well for even basic jobs. It’s expensive to live there but she would qualify for housing subsidies and even free schooling/ job training. Hell she might even bond with her father and end up enjoying farm life.
 

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Switzerland pays well for even basic jobs. It’s expensive to live there but she would qualify for housing subsidies and even free schooling/ job training. Hell she might even bond with her father and end up enjoying farm life.
While this would be one of the better outcomes, we've known for years now that Venus will not do this and end up an eternal lolcow.
 

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It really stuns me that she chooses to stay in Japan when she could return to Switzerland.

don't forget that in staying in Japan her mother can't mess with her anymore.


Japan was always her fantasy/ escape. In Japan, people adored her during her internet fame to the point there were meetups with her fans (one ended up being Manaki). There would be no abusive mother there, people would be kind to her, and she could be happy. But reality happened and she didn't get to live happily
happily ever after there.

Going to Switzerland could be the best thing that could happen to her but there will always be a real fear that her mother/ abuser, could fine her. Margo will go to insane methods to find her daughter. Remember when Manaki and Venus had to get the local police in their neighborhood involved because Margo found their place and (unsuccessfully) tried to break in with power tools (in the middle of the day)?
 

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Margaret never spoke Hungarian but German with Venus, who is on native level with her German skills, Standard German as well as Swiss German. also her language skills were already discussed before at length. she just slurs a lot.

on other news I stumbled upon this, good too see she is still going out of the flat and meeting with people.

edit: a girl btw who is also in the same friendship circle with Mikan Mandarin, wonder how that's going.
All these Japanophile e-girls are so empty and vapid. All of them are devoid of life and human emotions
 

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All these Japanophile e-girls are so empty and vapid. All of them are devoid of life and human emotions
This, and it's so fucking creepy how they all dress like preteens or animu characters. Imagine moving to a different country just for the aEsThEtIcS and because you crave attention that badly. Don't know why anybody considers it a good thing that she's hanging out with these people instead of functioning adults with normal lives and interests.

It doesn't really matter if V stays in Japan or moves back to Switzerland, she's going to be a barely functioning train wreck in either place unless she gets serious about improving her dire mental state.

Lmao, you people really think she could be working at a bank in Switzerland? She has no high school degree, is an alcoholic and can't keep up with an upload schedule for a week. Her CV is a blank page unless she adds Youtube and Onlyfans, in which case she might as well just list her public mental breakdowns in chronological order. She also said repeatedly that having a job is for normies and she's way too much of a creative genius to be living that kind of life.

You people seriously think she could net an insanely rich sugar daddy? I love your optimism! It's too bad she has completely ruined her health, teeth and body with her self-destructive habits and looks horrible without filters. The point of having a sugar baby is having something attractive to show off. Venus doesn't even look clean most of the time.

Even if you move to the best country ever, you still need to, like, work and study to keep yourself afloat. That aint happening.
 

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Regardless of the quality of his work, he is still taking on the role of manager.
Doesn't meant she's being pimped anyway. If she was, her work would be better/more regular and her boyfriends wouldn't run away. She is greedy and lazy enough to choose to do SW by herself.
 

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This, and it's so fucking creepy how they all dress like preteens or animu characters. Imagine moving to a different country just for the aEsThEtIcS and because you crave attention that badly. Don't know why anybody considers it a good thing that she's hanging out with these people instead of functioning adults with normal lives and interests.

It doesn't really matter if V stays in Japan or moves back to Switzerland, she's going to be a barely functioning train wreck in either place unless she gets serious about improving her dire mental state.

Lmao, you people really think she could be working at a bank in Switzerland? She has no high school degree, is an alcoholic and can't keep up with an upload schedule for a week. Her CV is a blank page unless she adds Youtube and Onlyfans, in which case she might as well just list her public mental breakdowns in chronological order. She also said repeatedly that having a job is for normies and she's way too much of a creative genius to be living that kind of life.

You people seriously think she could net an insanely rich sugar daddy? I love your optimism! It's too bad she has completely ruined her health, teeth and body with her self-destructive habits and looks horrible without filters. The point of having a sugar baby is having something attractive to show off. Venus doesn't even look clean most of the time.

Even if you move to the best country ever, you still need to, like, work and study to keep yourself afloat. That aint happening.
This, there is way too much Venus fanfic in this thread.
 

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This, and it's so fucking creepy how they all dress like preteens or animu characters. Imagine moving to a different country just for the aEsThEtIcS and because you crave attention that badly. Don't know why anybody considers it a good thing that she's hanging out with these people instead of functioning adults with normal lives and interests.

It doesn't really matter if V stays in Japan or moves back to Switzerland, she's going to be a barely functioning train wreck in either place unless she gets serious about improving her dire mental state.

Lmao, you people really think she could be working at a bank in Switzerland? She has no high school degree, is an alcoholic and can't keep up with an upload schedule for a week. Her CV is a blank page unless she adds Youtube and Onlyfans, in which case she might as well just list her public mental breakdowns in chronological order. She also said repeatedly that having a job is for normies and she's way too much of a creative genius to be living that kind of life.

You people seriously think she could net an insanely rich sugar daddy? I love your optimism! It's too bad she has completely ruined her health, teeth and body with her self-destructive habits and looks horrible without filters. The point of having a sugar baby is having something attractive to show off. Venus doesn't even look clean most of the time.

Even if you move to the best country ever, you still need to, like, work and study to keep yourself afloat. That aint happening.
Banks in Switzerland need receptionists, interbank couriers, secretaries, etc…Venus speaks several languages and could easily get a low level job in Switzerland’s biggest industry. Banks and law firms always like to hire attractive young women to work low level front end jobs and answer phones.

As I stated before her biggest issue would be keeping a tight schedule and emotion regulation.

Do I think IF Venus got a job at a ski resort or as a waitress in Davos she could get a sugar daddy? Sure. Any fairly attractive 24 year old girl, good at playing a doe eyed ingenue on the ground in a town with tons of wealthy old guys could make decent money playing girlfriend and giving BJs for old rich guys.

This, there is way too much Venus fanfic in this thread.
I don’t consider options she could have given her citizenship fanfic. She def has better options if she gets out of Japan.

Of course some people think anything other than shitting on Venus and saying how disgusting she is is fanfic or WK’ing. I don’t understand the rabid hate and I say this as a long standing Kiwi. She’s definitely fucked up and has a drinking problem, but the Luna thread has more sympathetic posts and she’s a nasty BPD junkie squatter who was given a free college tuition from dad and house right outside of NYC when she turned 18.

The intense catty venom and hatred for Venus always sort of shocks me. It’s made her thread on the other farms unreadable. Venus is like a bizarre human Rorschach test for women.
 
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She's probably on a 3 year spousal visa meaning that so long as her visa is valid she can stay. Dunno if that would change if Manaki divorced her though.
It reverts to a 90 day tourist visa (see edit) and you need to report the divorce within two weeks to immigration.

You don’t personally need to make enough to support yourself if you are married you need to show your spouse can take care of you. The paying taxes is all on the spouse if you are a dependent and they need to provide the papers proving they’ve been paying those for you.

It’s not unusual she could have pr but with how she is acting I’m coming around to not having it. And I also didn’t consider that she might have been getting funds from her YouTube videos and whatever that go over the limit where she’d have to start doing the taxes on her own including insurance and that’s a no no if she hasn’t been reporting them.
Edit: oh I should say I’m not sure if the visa after divorce stuff has changed with covid where maybe you can get an extension. But being able to stay for the lasting duration of your visa after divorce hasn’t been a thing for a while.

Double edit: 6 months and immigration can take away the visa at any time after divorce. Sorry
 
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Banks in Switzerland need receptionists, interbank couriers, secretaries, etc…Venus speaks several languages and could easily get a low level job in Switzerland’s biggest industry. Banks and law firms always like to hire attractive young women to work low level front end jobs and answer phones.

As I stated before her biggest issue would be keeping a tight schedule and emotion regulation.

Do I think IF Venus got a job at a ski resort or as a waitress in Davos she could get a sugar daddy? Sure. Any fairly attractive 24 year old girl, good at playing a doe eyed ingenue on the ground in a town with tons of wealthy old guys could make decent money playing girlfriend and giving BJs for old rich guys.


I don’t consider options she could have given her citizenship fanfic. She def has better options if she gets out of Japan.

Of course some people think anything other than shitting on Venus and saying how disgusting she is is fanfic or WK’ing. I don’t understand the rabid hate and I say this as a long standing Kiwi. She’s definitely fucked up and has a drinking problem, but the Luna thread has more sympathetic posts and she’s a nasty BPD junkie squatter who was given a free college tuition from dad and house right outside of NYC when she turned 18.

The intense catty venom and hatred for Venus always sort of shocks me. It’s made her thread on the other farms unreadable. Venus is like a bizarre human Rorschach test for women.
I don't really think there is anything catty about being realistic about someone's employment perspectives.

You must know very little about how the real world works if you think that Venus is super duper employable just because she's young and female. Believe it or not, but young women are not a rare occurrence in Switzerland and most of them have prior work experience, went to school and groom themselves regularly. Venus has never worked ever. I can't think of a single reason why you would want to hire her over anybody else who has at least flipped burgers or waited tables. She has literally no useful real-world experience.
 

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She’s definitely fucked up and has a drinking problem,
A lot of people here are rooting for Venus and want her to get her life together while living a happy life as Margo goes feral in a Korean dumpster.

But that's not the reality. She is a severely mentally ill woman that lashes out at those that try to help her and has no problem putting people on full blast (especially those that don't deserve it).

Venus is committing a slow suicide and self destructs whenever she makes even mild progress.
 

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Banks and law firms always like to hire attractive young women to work low level front end jobs and answer phones.
Yeah except that she's aging like milk. She's not attractive and her lifestyle has really taken a toll on her looks and health. She just doesn't look good. Honestly if I saw her walking down the street I'd think she was a methhead or something.

It reverts to a 90 day tourist visa (see edit) and you need to report the divorce within two weeks to immigration.
Well there you go. She gets bumped down to a tourist visa. Meaning she'd have to pull a Margo and head over to Seoul for a weekend, spend a weekend there and come back in a tourist visa again. Eventually though she'd get turned away at the border because if they see you doing this over and over again they suspect you're working under the table.

But that's not the reality. She is a severely mentally ill woman that lashes out at those that try to help her and has no problem putting people on full blast (especially those that don't deserve it).

Venus is committing a slow suicide and self destructs whenever she makes even mild progress.
THIS^^^ right here.

While I'm not saying she's going to intentionally kill herself I can see this happening by accident as she slowly self-destructs more and more. She's not well. And the longer this goes on the worse it's going to be for her.
 

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What is so great about specifically living in Japan anyway? Its not going to fundamentally change who you are and rapture you away from all your life’s problems. It could actually add even more to them where you didn’t have any before because of the language and cultural barriers.

The other kiwis covered the immigration issues very well.
 

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I want to see Venus get better because this slow suicide shit is awful.

I do think it's somewhat unrealistic to think that Venus could work at a bank or any other job, where personal grooming, punctuality and social skills were important. She could, in theory, get her shit together and create a decent life for herself. In theory, any lolcow could get help to improve their circumstances and live a reasonably decent existence.

The reason she's a cow is because she won't or can't do those things. I think people are just tired of trying to stay optimistic about Venus's future. Almost everyone here would rather see her succeed than fail, but eventually watching her hit her head against a brick wall over and over again becomes frustrating and annoying. We can only blame so much on Margo, at some point we have to accept she's making mistakes independent of any damage Margo did, that can't be excused away.
 

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Almost everyone here would rather see her succeed than fail, but eventually watching her hit her head against a brick wall over and over again becomes frustrating and annoying. We can only blame so much on Margo, at some point we have to accept she's making mistakes independent of any damage Margo did, that can't be excused away.

When Venus first escaped and Margo showed her true colors, people here were happy that she finally got away (minus the lady neckbeards from PULL). It was obvious for years that she was being severely abused by Margo and was a victim in a lot of the drama her mother involved her in.

But she went from being under her mother's strict control (she even said Margo would make her sleep in the same bed as to watch her/ make sure she was a virgin) and had every detail of her life managed to the point even her salads were weighed. She left the situation fucked up and needed help right away. But she went to a country that is known for its horrendous mental health care.

On her own, she has...

- spiraled enough to pick up an alchohol addiction

- found a South Korean surgeon to butcher her organs as a way to reduce her stomach content (that nearly killed her)

-constantly changes her mind about her sexual preferences. She said she was ace, gay, hypersexual (calling herself a pervert), to now trying to be a porn star

- ruins any friendships. A few of the other j-bloggers like Mikan have cut ties with her but are nice enough not to stir up drama since it is obvious that Venus is severely mentally ill and is a danger to herself already

- ruined any chance of having a career. For a time she was doing videos with small businesses (like local ramen shops) and was even in a stage play in Japan. But her behavior got herself cut off from those opportunities.

Venus has potential and was a victim, but she is continuing the same toxic cycle she learned from her mother and refuses to take responsibility for her actions. She's still young and could turn her life around if she decided to make the dramatic change. But she won't.
Now Manaki, her biggest enabler, is apparently cutting her off.
 

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But she went to a country that is known for its horrendous mental health care.

On her own, she has...

- found a South Korean surgeon to butcher her organs as a way to reduce her stomach content (that nearly killed her
Couldn't she find a South Korean psychiatrist instead if Japan's the problem?
 

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Couldn't she find a South Korean psychiatrist
Mental health awareness is just as bad over there as it is in Japan and on top of it, SK is very appearance heavy. If you ever go to the cities there like Seoul or Gangnam, there are plastic surgery and weight loss ads everywhere.
*just look up "Gangnam face"*

Venus needs far more than a shrink alone. Shes basically destroyed her physical health due to the surgery, ed, alchohol use, and whatever else she uses to self medicate.

Honestly, I come to this thread at times finally expecting to see that she manged to kill herself be it on accident or suicide.