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Say no 2 hugs

Can I keep his head for a souvenir?
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Exactly I was saying the kink for the viewer not Venus herself.
Has she expressed any want to leave Japan?
I'm inclined to believe she is probably too scared to leave Japan tbh. If someone has their claws as far into her as it seems than I have zero doubt her self esteem/image/whatthefuckever has been eroded to the point that she thinks she deserves this shit or will be killed if she tries to leave.

I also think this nasty dude shes with is the one who has main access to her online accounts and is purposely feeding the unmovable harpies who continue to suggest venus deserves this shit somehow. The more evidence people think shes trash the easier she is to control.

Like I said, you dont have to be a fucking genius to pick up on the gravity of her situation. You just have to not be an inhuman monster and not ignorant to behavioral patterns amongst victims.

Maybe she is playing us and we are all just naive pushovers but I really dont think this is the case. I kind of wish it was but yea... no.
 

Smarmy

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Not to mention that if she leaves Japan, the only other place she could really go is back to Europe. If she does that, Mutti Dearest will be wearing her skin like a suit in no time. As it stands, I doubt she even has the funds to do that. I think she's stuck in Japan for the foreseeable future unless she gets deported.
 

Bananasaurus

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Regarding other gossip boards, the only thing worth reading on lolcow are the image posts/updates. Literally everything else is appearance nitpicking, sperging about editing, infighting, and telling others to go back to forum X.

Regarding Venus, I think there is no denying that her mom is crazy and she has been exploited and put in inappropriate situations since childhood. It's understandable why she is the way she is. However, I also think she gets an insane amount of flak. Her behavior IS manipulative. She repeatedly sent her goons after Manaki, a person who probably wasn't prince charming but went through a lot of shit to help her. Suicide baiting is fucked up and is not okay. I'm not saying that because reeee, young impressionable fans, but because it messes up the people she knows IRL. I don't think she did/does any of that out of malice but it's still hurtful and manipulative. She screwed over the manager who was supposed to be running her channel when she rebranded as Malice Jabberwocky and later admitted she really only did it to learn how to start her own business. She lied and claimed her manager's business as her own. She messed up plenty of times when collaborating with others, like when she was supposed to host that event at the izakaya and ended up getting drunk and making everyone else uncomfortable. She posted a random photo of a child and claimed he was sexually assaulted, which is messed up even if true. She's encouraging others to get into soft porn, which I don't think I have to explain is a very bad idea unless you have no other option to support yourself. None of those things make her worse than Hitler, but all of those are worthy of criticism. Plenty of lolcows likely had equally or similarly shitty backgrounds, childhoods and mental illnesses, but they do not get a shred of sympathy. Amberlynn Reid or Julie Terriberry come to mind. I don't know why one person is supposed to be exempt of criticism while all others aren't.

Kissing Venus's butt for the rest of her life because her childhood was crap is not going to help anybody. People on the internet are sympathetic and understanding because they have seen all the proof of her abuse, but people outside her little bubble are not going to care. If you go to an event and make an ass of yourself because you're having a bad day, people are going to get upset and avoid you. If you fuck up at work because you can't cope with the stress, your boss won't care that your mom yelled at you. Venus will eventually age out of her hentai anime girl persona and she'll be fucked if she doesn't have her shit together. Life is far from over when you're 40 but I doubt she'll still make money off her lewds then.

Honestly, the only advantage she'd have if she left Japan would be better mental healthcare. You need to be willing to get help though, and unless she is committed to stop using mental illness and childhood trauma as a shield, I doubt she ever will. If she moved back to Europe she'd be just as friendless and alone, just as mentally ill, feel just as out of place (moving back to a place you left at age 11-ish and haven't seen in 12-ish years can hardly be called "going back home" and good luck ever getting a decent job after a lifetime of doing nothing.
 

BroccoliBrain

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Lolcow has great updates but some of the posters there are a weird combo of strident SJW crossed with the most toxic misogynistic women I’ve ever encountered. It is so bizarre.
Well, yes, because it's an anonymous imageboard, it's going to have women of all kinds of backgrounds. It's about as bizarre as KiwiFarms having users like you or Cosmos in the same space as Dynastia/
 
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MirnaMinkoff

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Well, yes, because it's an anonymous imageboard, it's going to have women of all kinds of backgrounds. It's about as bizarre as KiwiFarms having users like you or Cosmos in the same space as Dynastia/
Oh, I phrased that badly. Some posters there are extreme misogynists and strident SJWs, all wrapped up in one.

They will tie themselves in knots about cultural appropriation, hints of racism or transphobia and in their next paragraph it’s gleeful Lord of the Flies delight in Venus’s suffering and discussing what hideous ugly thin lipped trash she is.

I could understand misogynists and SJWs on the same board, but not traits in the same poster. Of course the SJW stuff might just offer opportunistic ways to criticize Venus in ways other than her looks.

The “china doll” dress was a good example, posts about her cultural appropriation, racism, stupidity and then nitpicking what an ugly ho she was.

You can get them in a frothing rage by just posting that Venus looks pretty in a recent photo.
 

Durable Mike Malloy

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Oh, I phrased that badly. Some posters there are extreme misogynists and strident SJWs, all wrapped up in one.

They will tie themselves in knots about cultural appropriation, hints of racism or transphobia and in their next paragraph it’s gleeful Lord of the Flies delight in Venus’s suffering and discussing what hideous ugly thin lipped trash she is.

I could understand misogynists and SJWs on the same board, but not traits in the same poster. Of course the SJW stuff might just offer opportunistic ways to criticize Venus in ways other than her looks.

The “china doll” dress was a good example, posts about her cultural appropriation, racism, stupidity and then nitpicking what an ugly ho she was.

You can get them in a frothing rage by just posting that Venus looks pretty in a recent photo.
It's peculiar how you can make a post about Venus looking pretty here, in this thread, and posters will get mad over there. The level of emotional investment is...really something.
 

furūtsu

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Oh, I phrased that badly. Some posters there are extreme misogynists and strident SJWs, all wrapped up in one.

They will tie themselves in knots about cultural appropriation, hints of racism or transphobia and in their next paragraph it’s gleeful Lord of the Flies delight in Venus’s suffering and discussing what hideous ugly thin lipped trash she is.

I could understand misogynists and SJWs on the same board, but not traits in the same poster. Of course the SJW stuff might just offer opportunistic ways to criticize Venus in ways other than her looks.

The “china doll” dress was a good example, posts about her cultural appropriation, racism, stupidity and then nitpicking what an ugly ho she was.

You can get them in a frothing rage by just posting that Venus looks pretty in a recent photo.
The vast majority of lolcow’s users are ex-/cgl/ posters who are known for being deranged fat weeaboos and perpetually hangry anorexics. It’s a shame that they derail threads so much because they’re useful for image updates on cows but 99% of text-only posts are just autistic diatribes ripping female e-celebs apart for their nasolabial folds.

But I agree that the political aspect is really weird, they’re like 50% Gender critical/Pinkpill femcels and 50% “I’m not like the other girls” coolgirls and it’s bewildering. Anonymity definitely explains how it comes to be expressed but doesn’t explain the psychology behind it.
 

BroccoliBrain

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I could understand misogynists and SJWs on the same board, but not traits in the same poster. Of course the SJW stuff might just offer opportunistic ways to criticize Venus in ways other than her looks.
How do you know they’re the ‘same poster’ though? Have you been following the lolcow thread itself for long enough that you’re distinguishing individual posters?

It’s not that hard to figure out what makes lolcow tick, it’s a gossip forum with chan roots so of course there’s going to be catty bitching to extremely deranged levels over another young woman. Just skim the thread for image updates, it’s pretty easy to ignore cringy textposts. We get it, you’re better than them.
 

PolexiaAphrodisia

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Amberlynn Reid or Julie Terriberry come to mind. I don't know why one person is supposed to be exempt of criticism while all others aren't.
I think the difference is that Venus's abusive childhood/teenhood is available online for all to see. We can watch the horrible interviews she did with Margo, the Living Doll episode of My Strange Addiction, the various screenshots of Margo having her narc breakdowns, et cetera. People watched in "real" time as she lived through narcmom hell.

We can literally watch her go through all that shit, whereas with Julie and Amberlynn we just have to take their words for it. Obviously Julie went through some shit to be as fucked up as she was, but we didn't actually get to see it. I'm less familiar with Amberlynn. If we had some kind of digital record of the abuse they went through, maybe we would be more sympathetic towards them.
If Jani and Bodhi Schofield turn out to be cows in a few years or so, I feel like people will be extremely lenient towards them because again we have full documentation of the sick shit their "parents" forced upon them.

I'm not saying Venus is exempt, and she makes me more and more MOTI these days because I really wanted to see her do well for herself and instead she's just another e-thot whore who doesn't fucking think before posting tits and puss. But I'm less inclined to outright condemn her as a cow.
 

feelingabitemu

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Yes this is old, but it forms part of my thoughts about Venus right now.

I have a lot of sympathy for many of our beloved cows, because I'm not a heartless monster. That said from my experience with women who have been in the same, if not worse, position as Venus right now I do find myself increasingly depressed with this thread.

There are success stories of those who at 23 were in similar situations to Venus, only to turn their life around and now have normal lives (which is the ideal) or capitalise on successfully dragging themselves out of the hole. There are more no longer young women who couldn't get out, who repeatedly make the same choices over and over again, or worse still make increasingly poor choices even as others try to desperately pull them out.

She's following the well written story of many women before her, and it's the path that makes you feel like you're repeatedly being getting them to take a single step forward only for them to run 20 back. A lot of the 35 year olds people think should have their shit together were the 23 year olds who everyone felt sorry for, then slowly but surely the empathy tanks dried up. Unless something drastically changes she's just going to tumble further down the hole.

From the videos it appears the individual who is "managing" Venus must now have realised she's not the most reliable vulnerable gaijin to pimp out online, yes vulnerable young women from abusive background and shit poor mental health make great targets for street pimps and low budget porn but not the sort they're trying to do with Venus even at their low effort tier.

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I really wish you would Venus. I really don't want her to become the 35 year old no one is rooting for anymore.
 

MirnaMinkoff

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"Sorry for having a mental breakdown guys, I'm just so silly sometimes teehee" I can practically feel the tip of the knife digging into her back.
The “I promise to be the very best little girl in the whole wide world and extra cute and adorbs to make up for being so sad and bad! Pinky swear!” just makes it x100 worse.

Laying the little girl act on extra thick while being exploited and an abusive pimp to make porn makes her situation disturbing and wretched in new ways.