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Shes currently live on YouTube doing a "Bake with me" video but her food is in the oven so she's just been staring into the camera for five minutes looking like a deleted scene from The Ring.

Shes watching the chat but going silent for several moments at a time and it's unsettling. I hope you all don't mind if I don't bother giving a play by play of this sadness. Its low energy and weird.
 

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Shes currently live on YouTube doing a "Bake with me" video but her food is in the oven so she's just been staring into the camera for five minutes looking like a deleted scene from The Ring.

Shes watching the chat but going silent for several moments at a time and it's unsettling. I hope you all don't mind if I don't bother giving a play by play of this sadness. Its low energy and weird.


She was really tired in this stream and apparently seems to be getting weaker by the day and heavily hid her gaunt look well with the darker lighting and wig.

Also notice how she was yawning excessively near the end with the occasional hand twitching and calling her hands two different names (though probably just a cutesy joke as she mentioned Jirai with the nicknames)

She also didnt have any music on this time which is unusual for her and she even admits that her stream content is depressing while insisting she isnt being forced and still living at the same place as her older videos (maybe manaki's? she mentioned being in an apartment complex) and getting pings on her phone with a "OH MY GOD" look on her face.

Though apparently she chooses to stream first thing in the morning which contributes as to why shes so tired besides the effects of the surgery catching up to her and briefly mentioning saying she couldn't sleep because of stomach pains.

She also forgot to plug in the oven and had to bake it twice and slightly burnt the cookies.

was also sad to watch chat freak the fuck out when she got her macbook charger or washed her hands.

She ended the stream mid sentence and I hope she actually laid down and didnt just collapse from exhaustion.

Edit: Also she was behaving more like that scene in the ring especially over the last 10 minutes of the stream where she didnt say much with long pauses and didnt add anything like frosting to the cookies like in the thumbnail. She also looked really sad and tired.
 
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Sorry for the double post.

She rescheduled her livestream tonight to be three days later and did not upload anything today on social media.


Said she figured a BBQ at 9am was a bad idea with members of her chat saying she didnt look like only had a bra on.

Didnt see anything but After re-reading the OP (and yes seeing that there wasnt much to see on Venus) people whose same sentiments echoed my own, I too am losing faith in the Veenoos.

Surprised there hasnt been any updates on her Onlyfans as apparently she does exclusive streams there and has some pretty interesting content like the virginity story that someone mentioned in a video on it that wasnt mentioned here. (though its probably bullshit knowing Venus)

Just interested in the current lore because she seems hellbent on going down this road and havent seen much talk about whats actually on the OF besides a few pictures. may as well see that side of her.

Here is that video:


She really does do the fake victim thing and I think shes hopefully moving on slowly from all this, or is on deaths door. Merely speculation since she doesnt appear to have ever visited a nutritionist especially from her self inflicted surgery condition and looks weaker by the day with no real outward intent to change or just be Venus, the normal girl as a receptionist or something.
 

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Sorry for the double post.

She rescheduled her livestream tonight to be three days later and did not upload anything today on social media.


Said she figured a BBQ at 9am was a bad idea with members of her chat saying she didnt look like only had a bra on.

Didnt see anything but After re-reading the OP (and yes seeing that there wasnt much to see on Venus) people whose same sentiments echoed my own, I too am losing faith in the Veenoos.

Surprised there hasnt been any updates on her Onlyfans as apparently she does exclusive streams there and has some pretty interesting content like the virginity story that someone mentioned in a video on it that wasnt mentioned here. (though its probably bullshit knowing Venus)

Just interested in the current lore because she seems hellbent on going down this road and havent seen much talk about whats actually on the OF besides a few pictures. may as well see that side of her.

Here is that video:


She really does do the fake victim thing and I think shes hopefully moving on slowly from all this, or is on deaths door. Merely speculation since she doesnt appear to have ever visited a nutritionist especially from her self inflicted surgery condition and looks weaker by the day with no real outward intent to change or just be Venus, the normal girl as a receptionist or something.
I wouldn’t be interested in the OF streams only because I think there would be as much honesty and authenticity as you get with female porn stars orgasms.

The OF shit is all about catering to the fans who want “sexy, pervert” or “sweet, innocent” Venus so she’s basically creating a bizarre character to try and please the intended audience. The results can be very strange, but i don’t think it’s anything more than a performance and her idea of fan service.
 

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I wouldn’t be interested in the OF streams only because I think there would be as much honesty and authenticity as you get with female porn stars orgasms.

The OF shit is all about catering to the fans who want “sexy, pervert” or “sweet, innocent” Venus so she’s basically creating a bizarre character to try and please the intended audience. The results can be very strange, but i don’t think it’s anything more than a performance and her idea of fan service.
Agreed, that garbage really is just Venus LARPing as a hentai character from what Ive gathered from her streams and the thread.
Really out of character for Venus and can Sympathize to an extent.

Only asked about it to see if the pimp theory held any validity from other Kiwis who were here long before I was and knew more.

Though its still unclear as to how she's still staying in Japan since businesses are not cheap to start or operate and fail all the time like her vague "business" that she claimed to have bought drones and a studio for yet quietly abandoned.

Must have had more money from her early Youtube career than fans realized since she started really early on when it was possible to make a lot of money off youtube with her 10s of millions of views if the pimp theory is just overanalyzing things.

At least she hopefully had a nice day to rest today since it doesn't look like she did any photoshoots or anything.
 
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None of the "black eye" and "punching noises" stuff ever quite convinced me. I'm more inclined to think the black eyes are more like Rapp-esque sockets.
Even if she is pped out it doesn’t make sense to hurt the product physically.
The black eye thing I think, ya, she just has recessed eyes and horrible lighting.

Don’t know what her financial situation is like obviously but think I could find a lamp for 1000¥
 

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Agreed, that garbage really is just Venus LARPing as a hentai character from what Ive gathered from her streams and the thread.
Really out of character for Venus and can Sympathize to an extent.

Only asked about it to see if the pimp theory held any validity from other Kiwis who were here long before I was and knew more.

Though its still unclear as to how she's still staying in Japan since businesses are not cheap to start or operate and fail all the time like her vague "business" that she claimed to have bought drones and a studio for yet quietly abandoned.

Must have had more money from her early Youtube career than fans realized since she started really early on when it was possible to make a lot of money off youtube with her 10s of millions of views if the pimp theory is just overanalyzing things.

At least she hopefully had a nice day to rest today since it doesn't look like she did any photoshoots or anything.
Sorry to double post. I’m out eating and on my phone. And my phone hates quoting in an edit.

it’s entirely possible she is still married to manaki and in some sort of arrangement with him. It’d suck still but it’s better than the illegal route.

Japanese has a fucking word for it. sotsukon.
 

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Sorry to double post. I’m out eating and on my phone. And my phone hates quoting in an edit.

it’s entirely possible she is still married to manaki and in some sort of arrangement with him. It’d suck still but it’s better than the illegal route.

Japanese has a fucking word for it. sotsukon.
If he really is asexual/only into 2D lolis like she claimed however long ago, that would make sense. However I take anything she says with a mine of salt, and that was part of her claim that she was still a virgin despite having being married for years and theoretically being a secret nasty pervert.
 

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If he really is asexual/only into 2D lolis like she claimed however long ago, that would make sense. However I take anything she says with a mine of salt, and that was part of her claim that she was still a virgin despite having being married for years and theoretically being a secret nasty pervert.
Well you can’t believe a single thing she says. Margo basically trained her to lie all the time.

she said she filming from where she did before. So It’s entirety possible.

Maybe she’s doing good on the escort side and can pay her own way but you don’t get to rent a place in Japan without a visa or some good ass underground connections.

I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have any skills with networking. I’d bet she is sotsukon with manaki. Holding out hope that she has permanent residency but I really doubt it.
 

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Sorry to double post. I’m out eating and on my phone. And my phone hates quoting in an edit.

it’s entirely possible she is still married to manaki and in some sort of arrangement with him. It’d suck still but it’s better than the illegal route.

Japanese has a fucking word for it. sotsukon.

WTF? Japan is beyond cucked. They practically deserve it at this point.

Its also probably the most likely possibility despite her proclaiming her "divorce" a few years ago yet still going back to stay at his place a few times. Manaki needs to let her suffer the consequences of her own decisions and just plain old divorce her out of self respect.

Not being mean but she cucked him unapologetically, multiple times, slandered him and his family to anyone who would listen on social media, and even admitted to never being attracted to him in the first place.

Shes been there for a while now, is over the age of 20, and likely only needs to show she has a stable income to become a naturalized citizen anyway at this point.

That is incredibly dangerous to do with someone you don't even see anymore potentially being able to legally write documents in your name and access all your finances from half way across the country without your consent.


Well you can’t believe a single thing she says. Margo basically trained her to lie all the time.

she said she filming from where she did before. So It’s entirety possible.

Maybe she’s doing good on the escort side and can pay her own way but you don’t get to rent a place in Japan without a visa or some good ass underground connections.

I’m pretty sure she doesn’t have any skills with networking. I’d bet she is sotsukon with manaki. Holding out hope that she has permanent residency but I really doubt it.

Venus has always been a bit aloof and meandering when it comes to telling her stories to people,

Though suspect she did the surgery as a publicity stunt, not actually body dysmorphia despite her only nibbling at the food she made in her cooking streams since she hasnt mentioned it since despite us very much seeing it catch up with her over the course of march with the constant shaking she never had before and her learning to hide it better in April with dark lighting, wigs, and heavy layers of makeup.

You can see it in the last stream she did whenever her laptop would illuminate her face better.

Also definitely dont see her negotiating anything in the underworld of Japan.

Her OF said she was last seen on April 4th so probably doing well enough on that with a couple hundred subs.



No idea what that other Japanese channel is that is under her channels tab on Youtube. It has several of her videos when she was an actress but with Japanese subtitles and didn't see it mentioned earlier on in the thread. Is this just another project she started and then abandoned?

English subs:

JP Subs on the other channel:



Looks like an Escort type situation or low level actress celebration:

JP:


EN:



She is also doing an ASMR stream today


 
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I've always been pretty unabashedly a Manaki stan...ok, I'm exaggerating, but he did get a lot of hate for being a perverted old man who wanted to be Venus' new owner, and he turned out to be pretty sweet. He seemed to care for her and enjoyed her company, and was content to just let her do what she liked. He wasn't perfect of course, and in a lot of other situations a dude in his early to mid 20s watching a teenager on YouTube and thinking "I want to marry her one day" would never be able to gain back the respect he'd lose for that, but as a consequence of the situation we find ourselves observing, I find myself wanting to defend the guy.

On the other hand, if you think he's a creepazoid full stop, at least consider this: he was the most stable, accommodating and mentally healthy person that Venus has ever been in long term contact with. Imagine that.
 

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I've always been pretty unabashedly a Manaki stan...ok, I'm exaggerating, but he did get a lot of hate for being a perverted old man who wanted to be Venus' new owner, and he turned out to be pretty sweet. He seemed to care for her and enjoyed her company, and was content to just let her do what she liked. He wasn't perfect of course, and in a lot of other situations a dude in his early to mid 20s watching a teenager on YouTube and thinking "I want to marry her one day" would never be able to gain back the respect he'd lose for that, but as a consequence of the situation we find ourselves observing, I find myself wanting to defend the guy.

On the other hand, if you think he's a creepazoid full stop, at least consider this: he was the most stable, accommodating and mentally healthy person that Venus has ever been in long term contact with. Imagine that.

Compared to most other lolcows and Faggo, he was pretty mild and the most stabilizing force in her life she ever had that she brazenly threw away. Yeah he probably did want to take over the "owner" role for Venus.

Already speculated on him missing her and being rightly angry about it when she fucked off for weeks at a time to cuck him and blatantly lie about him.

If she ever put forward the effort to get rid of her maladaptive Diva complex she was trained to have from birth, she just might be able to re-integrate into society somewhat despite never truly being accepted in places like Japan because she's a foreigner.

Also because he never came out and actively tried to dismiss any of her accusations , that they just faded into the void and we could see that Venus was the neglectful and abusive one in the relationship over time and her continued patterns of BPD behavior that he seems even semi respectable.

Simply put, She doesn't want to just sit down for five seconds and enjoy what she has while she has it and you can only lead a horse to water.

Edit: Here's a screencap of when the Laptop illuminated her face better the other day during her cookie stream and what I meant by she's getting better at hiding her gaunt appearance.


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WTF? Japan is beyond cucked. They practically deserve it at this point.

Its also probably the most likely possibility despite her proclaiming her "divorce" a few years ago yet still going back to stay at his place a few times. Manaki needs to let her suffer the consequences of her own decisions and just plain old divorce her out of self respect.

Not being mean but she cucked him unapologetically, multiple times, slandered him and his family to anyone who would listen on social media, and even admitted to never being attracted to him in the first place.

Shes been there for a while now, is over the age of 20, and likely only needs to show she has a stable income to become a naturalized citizen anyway at this point.

That is incredibly dangerous to do with someone you don't even see anymore potentially being able to legally write documents in your name and access all your finances from half way across the country without your consent.




Venus has always been a bit aloof and meandering when it comes to telling her stories to people,

Though suspect she did the surgery as a publicity stunt, not actually body dysmorphia despite her only nibbling at the food she made in her cooking streams since she hasnt mentioned it since despite us very much seeing it catch up with her over the course of march with the constant shaking she never had before and her learning to hide it better in April with dark lighting, wigs, and heavy layers of makeup.

You can see it in the last stream she did whenever her laptop would illuminate her face better.

Also definitely dont see her negotiating anything in the underworld of Japan.

Her OF said she was last seen on April 4th so probably doing well enough on that with a couple hundred subs.



No idea what that other Japanese channel is that is under her channels tab on Youtube. It has several of her videos when she was an actress but with Japanese subtitles and didn't see it mentioned earlier on in the thread. Is this just another project she started and then abandoned?

English subs:

JP Subs on the other channel:



Looks like an Escort type situation or low level actress celebration:

JP:


EN:



She is also doing an ASMR stream today


If she didn’t get pr with manki you need to be here for ten years and tick off a point system to even qualify. Unless she did it with manaki she isn’t a naturalized citizen.

she also could have submitted a document block divorce by consent. She’d still need his tax papers to resubmit her visa in that case.
Edit: fujyurimouside. If she submitted that manaki might not be able or willing to get a lawyer. Easier just live apart.
 
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Nick Gurs

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If she didn’t get pr with manki you need to be here for ten years and tick off a point system to even qualify. Unless she did it with manaki she isn’t a naturalized citizen.

she also could have submitted a document block divorce by consent. She’d still need his tax papers to resubmit her visa in that case.
Edit: fujyurimouside. If she submitted that manaki might not be able or willing to get a lawyer. Easier just live apart.

So shes basically an illegal visa overstayer? since that would also explain why she quietly walked away from that business she made an announcement about and moved into an apartment because you need a citizenship or business visa which Im certain she knows nothing about.

EDIT:

Also found a video of a commercial the Veenoos was in last March

 
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Compared to most other lolcows and Faggo, he was pretty mild and the most stabilizing force in her life she ever had that she brazenly threw away. Yeah he probably did want to take over the "owner" role for Venus.

Already speculated on him missing her and being rightly angry about it when she fucked off for weeks at a time to cuck him and blatantly lie about him.

If she ever put forward the effort to get rid of her maladaptive Diva complex she was trained to have from birth, she just might be able to re-integrate into society somewhat despite never truly being accepted in places like Japan because she's a foreigner.

Also because he never came out and actively tried to dismiss any of her accusations , that they just faded into the void and we could see that Venus was the neglectful and abusive one in the relationship over time and her continued patterns of BPD behavior that he seems even semi respectable.

Simply put, She doesn't want to just sit down for five seconds and enjoy what she has while she has it and you can only lead a horse to water.

Edit: Here's a screencap of when the Laptop illuminated her face better the other day during her cookie stream and what I meant by she's getting better at hiding her gaunt appearance.


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She needs intensive therapy to change those learned behaviors and she isn't going to get that in Japan. But moving back to Europe means Margo and probably being stalked unless she can figure out how to stay quiet online.
 

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Compared to most other lolcows and Faggo, he was pretty mild and the most stabilizing force in her life she ever had that she brazenly threw away. Yeah he probably did want to take over the "owner" role for Venus.

Already speculated on him missing her and being rightly angry about it when she fucked off for weeks at a time to cuck him and blatantly lie about him.

If she ever put forward the effort to get rid of her maladaptive Diva complex she was trained to have from birth, she just might be able to re-integrate into society somewhat despite never truly being accepted in places like Japan because she's a foreigner.

Also because he never came out and actively tried to dismiss any of her accusations , that they just faded into the void and we could see that Venus was the neglectful and abusive one in the relationship over time and her continued patterns of BPD behavior that he seems even semi respectable.

Simply put, She doesn't want to just sit down for five seconds and enjoy what she has while she has it and you can only lead a horse to water.

Edit: Here's a screencap of when the Laptop illuminated her face better the other day during her cookie stream and what I meant by she's getting better at hiding her gaunt appearance.


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That picture.... fucking yikes! She has officially gone full cursed image. She's so depressing but the curiosity regarding her well being is compelling enough to keep checking in. Its not a fun time.
 

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she fucked off for weeks at a time to cuck him
I don't remember any cucking, can you give me the rundown on this?

Also: do we know if she's officially divorced from Manaki? I wonder if she's still in Japan because she's still Mrs. Manaki on paper.
 

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I'm no doctor, but if I were Venus or someone close to her, I'd be suggesting she drink those milkshakes designed for frail people in hospital who can't chew and need to gain weight.

Fuck the ramen and so on, with the hackjob her digestive system got, she desperately needs nutritional advice. She likely can't go to a doctor if her immigration status is suspect, but you can likely get some kind of nutritional supplement shakes at a pharmacy.

Her hands shaking on camera could be due to alcohol abuse, her being tired, her being weak because she's so thin, or could be a salt deficiency fucking her muscles up, like you see in ED patients.

Her losing so much intestine means she physically cannot absorb enough nutrients from normal food. This is even discounting her eating disorder history. People with Crohn's and so on have to really monitor their intake as they can become dangerously deficient in minerals and so on. She likely can't tolerate large meals because of her ED history, so sipping a shake that has secretly been crammed with extra calories and vitamins would likely be the best for her. But somehow I doubt it'll happen
 

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WTF? Japan is beyond cucked. They practically deserve it at this point.

Its also probably the most likely possibility despite her proclaiming her "divorce" a few years ago yet still going back to stay at his place a few times. Manaki needs to let her suffer the consequences of her own decisions and just plain old divorce her out of self respect.

Not being mean but she cucked him unapologetically, multiple times, slandered him and his family to anyone who would listen on social media, and even admitted to never being attracted to him in the first place.

Shes been there for a while now, is over the age of 20, and likely only needs to show she has a stable income to become a naturalized citizen anyway at this point.

That is incredibly dangerous to do with someone you don't even see anymore potentially being able to legally write documents in your name and access all your finances from half way across the country without your consent.




Venus has always been a bit aloof and meandering when it comes to telling her stories to people,

Though suspect she did the surgery as a publicity stunt, not actually body dysmorphia despite her only nibbling at the food she made in her cooking streams since she hasnt mentioned it since despite us very much seeing it catch up with her over the course of march with the constant shaking she never had before and her learning to hide it better in April with dark lighting, wigs, and heavy layers of makeup.

You can see it in the last stream she did whenever her laptop would illuminate her face better.

Also definitely dont see her negotiating anything in the underworld of Japan.

Her OF said she was last seen on April 4th so probably doing well enough on that with a couple hundred subs.



No idea what that other Japanese channel is that is under her channels tab on Youtube. It has several of her videos when she was an actress but with Japanese subtitles and didn't see it mentioned earlier on in the thread. Is this just another project she started and then abandoned?

English subs:

JP Subs on the other channel:



Looks like an Escort type situation or low level actress celebration:

JP:


EN:



She is also doing an ASMR stream today



I’m not saying Venus is or isn’t involved in some shady organized crime outfit, because who the fuck knows, but let’s be clear there is no “networking” or “negotiation” with organized crime in the sex trade. It’s a “do as your told or else” type of situation. They find young women in desperate straits for various reasons like immigration, drugs, financial, mental illness, etc.. and they use that to then control, dominate and use them. It’s being out of options that leads them into the sex trade.

I honestly think Venus is probably still technically married and just has a shitty abusive boyfriend looking to use her to generate income just like Mama did.
 

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I don't remember any cucking, can you give me the rundown on this?

Also: do we know if she's officially divorced from Manaki? I wonder if she's still in Japan because she's still Mrs. Manaki on paper.
Saw pictures of Venus with other guys in SFW pictures over instagram where she officially said she was dating them, and also was referencing the OP where she would go to love hotels with camera guys, older threads on there mentioned her dating a Korean guy not long after marrying Manaki with a picture, "Ken" was documented here on the Thread from the OP, as well as doing shit on her onlyfans and giving manager kun a forced blowjob behind his back while she is away on one of her trips.

Found the old farms image board while learning more about the Happenings between her escaping and the present. but the last free from margo, Venus thread I could find already documented everything on it here in the OP except the corncob OnlyFans meme material.


She also rescheduled her stream today to next week.

"Im going to schedule this for next week! 2-3 livestreams a week are a bit too much to handle. Id rather improve some other stuff! Thank you for understanding each time! I love you too!"


I'm no doctor, but if I were Venus or someone close to her, I'd be suggesting she drink those milkshakes designed for frail people in hospital who can't chew and need to gain weight.

Fuck the ramen and so on, with the hackjob her digestive system got, she desperately needs nutritional advice. She likely can't go to a doctor if her immigration status is suspect, but you can likely get some kind of nutritional supplement shakes at a pharmacy.

Her hands shaking on camera could be due to alcohol abuse, her being tired, her being weak because she's so thin, or could be a salt deficiency fucking her muscles up, like you see in ED patients.

Her losing so much intestine means she physically cannot absorb enough nutrients from normal food. This is even discounting her eating disorder history. People with Crohn's and so on have to really monitor their intake as they can become dangerously deficient in minerals and so on. She likely can't tolerate large meals because of her ED history, so sipping a shake that has secretly been crammed with extra calories and vitamins would likely be the best for her. But somehow I doubt it'll happen

She probably wont listen and have another crisis. Her Health has not been improving recently and shes a lot more easily fatigued.
Knowing that most people dont twitch as often as venus has over the course of the last month and a half, its probably to do with complications of her surgery catching up to her. Since it doesnt look like shes even mentioned visiting a nutritionist or a doctor about it and has been easily fatigued just talking for an Hour or Two as we saw with her last livestream. (Though also could be Venus being an elaborate troll like on her OF at this point as well as self admittedly streaming soon after she wakes up for some reason.)


Her last seen OF post was april 4th


I’m not saying Venus is or isn’t involved in some shady organized crime outfit, because who the fuck knows, but let’s be clear there is no “networking” or “negotiation” with organized crime in the sex trade. It’s a “do as your told or else” type of situation. They find young women in desperate straits for various reasons like immigration, drugs, financial, mental illness, etc.. and they use that to then control, dominate and use them. It’s being out of options that leads them into the sex trade.

I honestly think Venus is probably still technically married and just has a shitty abusive boyfriend looking to use her to generate income just like Mama did.

Probably is some usury of sorts going on, Narc survivors tend to attract those types like a beacon until they can break the behavior patterns and change through years of intense self work and a good therapist. Knowing Venus she wont do that and let it consume her.

Still amazed because OF was the only thing she committed to for more than a month.


Coming to Believe that the Livestreaming career will be short lived despite getting 4-10k viewers in her cookie stream because of simply her not being there and pushing off the streams last second with a "[Generic reason], so I cant stream!" .

She's starting to be flakey with streams saying they're "overwhelming" for her within the first week of starting them and rescheduled for the third time this week or saying something about a power outage and explaining it vaguely and then everything being fine the next day as if nothing happened. As well as not being prepared for either of them.

If she wants to be a variety streamer, she's doing a terrible job at it. not because of the streams themselves, but because she's not really committed to doing the streams in the first place.


She was better in the cookie stream but was fading in and out of Nam flashbacks when her pupils started dilating for seconds at a time. No idea why she thought "hey I just woke up! lets do a stream first thing in the morning for me!" was a good idea in the first place when she's smart enough to see what most successful livestreamers do and at least attempt to imitate it .

Can tell its a Macbook she streams with because of the reflection on her glasses during one stream and the "720p" quality that's actually 480p.

Also Calling it Bullshit because she's been in front of crowds IRL before far larger than her livestream chat doing Q and A's before and been fine for far longer than an hour or two every few days.

She delayed the same meat mukbang stream twice in a row for no real reason, once to the next day, and the next time to next week at the same time, which is disappointing.

I take it this is another one of her projects she will abandon within two weeks again just like her business?


Also hope she is slowly moving on to a normal life with the near radio silence on social media since the last livestream.
 
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