John Fucksauce
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I'm a fan of all the people who were ousted from the community and are still salty they never succeeded such as GeePM & his buddies getting in on this feigning for attention.
Did they post about this anywhere? did you archive? i want pictures, PICTURES OF VINESAUCE
I'm still massively on the fence about this one/coping but let's say all of this is true, why the fuck would they do this RIGHT AFTER the Dan accusations were shot the fuck down? Because low and behold everyone on Twitter is immediately skeptical.
GeePM is such a fucking bitter loser for not being able to milk the Vinesauce community for his spending habits so of course he would immediately prop this up.
This is what I've been wondering myself.
Vinny's last name isn't even public. He's barely mentioned any family related stuff outside his dad kicking him out, his mother being dead early in life, and living with his grandmother in the early days of streaming. There's never been any solidity with his last name let alone any clues. He's VERY private about his life.
The other thing to note is that he emails someone else about their art. The full resolution picture. Why not go to the vinebooru or ask to upload it there? All Vinesauce fanart usually gets posted there. This is the part that just makes me extremely confused. Why the hell would anyone use the CONTACT EMAIL to communicate?
That and of course the way the emails are just loaded with absolutely batshit insane levels of twitch chat lingo.
Reminder to
ARCHIVE FUCKING EVERYTHING
with the traction this is getting a lot of shit is going to be said and a LOT of shit is going to be deleted, screenshots DO NOT COUNT they can be easily disregarded as edits, archives can not.
ARCHIVE BITCHES, ARCHIVE
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/archival-tools.6561/
Looking at more of the emails it's like the guy who begged Vinny to play DEE EM CEE TOO got ahold of the emails, I can't unhear his voice reading these.
I saw Mandalore Gaming RT it too, It's how I found it.
Not even surprised GeePM would RT it though. He always seemed to be a petty shit even before he got caught misusing that money.
Nah you're right, I got excited to shit on GeePM and forgot the most important rule.
Anyway so the biggest piece of evidence is the audio recording which if it's fake it's a good fake. Now there's thousands of hours of recorded audio of Vinny so it's not impossible that it was spliced and while people have noted there have been splices the OP has specified that there were splices for brevity. Vinny's audio is shit so it's not impossible that it could be an impersonator but I'm kinda leaning on it being real until there's some audiophiles that can debunk it.
And to atone for my lack of archiving, here's a local copy of the unlisted Youtube upload they linked on the doc:
EDIT: I realized that while the google doc wouldn't let people copy paste, the archive of it will. So now I can post the transcript. Apologies for any formatting issues, the copy paste left this formatted weird:
Me: Speaking of vaccines, have you ever gotten the one for HPV yet since we talked about that stuff?
Vinny: No. I haven’t.
Vinny: We didn’t- we didn’t use protection- and that was, like, kind of both of our fault and I’ll even take the credit
for that one. Y’know, like I’m- I will apologize again for that, um, I should’ve been more like ‘Okay listen, we
should, y’know, we should do this’, and we then- It’s just um, not an easy decision to make when you’re both-
like, naked.
Vinny: And I have to say it is very flattering to me that you still want to talk to me like, after all the stuff and
y’know, everything that goes on and- the STD put a damper on the whole thing.
Vinny: You didn’t get, um… weird with me. You were never like, overly clingy. But my limit is so low, that I just
kinda, y’know I just back away. And then y’know someone else shows me interest and then I start thinking about
that.
Vinny: Y’know it does hurt to go back and think about if I- y’know, upset you or hurt you or anyone in general
because that was never my intent, ever? But it just kinda happens that way, and part of it is the status thing of
the, y’know, being the streamer, and the worst part is I still don’t feel that way. You know how fucking celebrity
worship culture can be. You write a couple good songs and suddenly you have the answer to everything.
Vinny: It’s been a slow process but let’s just say there’s a lot of stuff that makes me not happy about myself.
Where… y’know it seems perfectly fine, and it’s perfectly consensual, and then it turns into a huge source of
guilt. And so I just want to get past that in my life.
Vinny: I mean the attraction like I said was definitely real. And- y’know when I saw you at that first convention,
that was- y’know it was there immediately. Um, but I mean the conversation about whether or not what we did
was appropriate, I don’t think it’s anybody’s business except ours. The STD thing was so fucking stupid and I-I
beat myself about that because it’s like ‘well how? Y’know, how did that happen?’ I don’t- I don’t know how that
happened. And I feel bad it was to a nice person? That it happened to you? It’s like, so that bothers me. But um.
Vinny: Like, there are things that I have regrets about and I think about that make me upset and in some ways
sex is a way to forget about it. But at the same time, it doesn’t make it feel any better if someone you like
pushes you away, or like hides a bit, and that’s just who I am. Add to that, that you’re a member of like, a
community or you’re watching my streams and it just becomes more complicated. So- not good. Um, I get it. I
do.
Vinny: I’ll be honest, don’t take this the wrong way, I am- I feel shame- about the fact that I fucked fans. There’s
a great deal of shame. That I have- sometimes it keeps me up at night and I’m not happy about myself.
Me: Mhm.
Vinny: So I want you to be aware that that is not anything to do with you on a personal level. It’s- the aspect that I
could lose my career, or people view me a certain way. Ross views me a certain way. How would he view me if
he knew? Even though he’s fucked fans too. [laughs]
Me: Oh, spicy.
Vinny: Everyone has. Dude, when he and Holly broke up, y’know he went through a hard time. Um, Danny.
Y’know from the Game Grumps. Uh, but the point is this is something I think a lot of people do because it is,
y’know such a new medium and, y’know, when a video game nerd who’s not popular gets famous on the internet,
that’s not an easy thing- Like no [sighs] like there’s no rule book. Um.
Vinny: I can promise you that never in a conversation casually with any other person has it randomly popped
up. Like ‘oh, that person? Yeah I fucked that person.’ Or like ‘oh yeah, no we talk.’ That’s the first way to fucking
ruin your career, a., and b. I don’t like people knowing my business, and c. when people do connect dots or
whenever there’s some weird accusation, I don’t sleep. I don’t eat. I get really fucked up. So, uh yeah, that
wouldn’t come from me.
Me: I mean, I-I know I’m not the only person you did stuff with. I know. I’m not dumb. But…
Vinny: Yeah.
Me: I feel like it could be helpful for you to have a similar conversation just so you feel more at ease and less
bad about it. Y’know?
Vinny: May I ask with whom?
Me: Um, I know [redacted].
Vinny: Well-
Me: I know she would message me sometimes like ‘hey, has Vinny talked to you? Cuz he stopped talking to
me.’ And I didn’t really give her an answer. Just afraid of her messaging me again.
Vinny: I mean if she does, I guess you have the option of not responding, but uh. Or you can just say we
haven’t spoke. ‘Yeah me and Vin don’t really- y’know, he’s a good dude, we don’t really- we’ve gone our separate
ways.’ Um, whatever you think is best. I don’t know. But um, I plan on just kinda telling her that ‘listen, I’m in a-
I’m trying to be in a different place. And I’m sorry that I wasn’t able to be more of whatever you want me to be.’ I
just think she’s a very lonely weird person that is going through tough times. She got a little bit of happiness
because the favorite streamer dude that’s good-looking got in touch with her. I get how that can be a
psychological thing. Because this is pretty much what she told me. [laughs] I get it. But, y’know I can’t have her-
like, we talk once every three months maybe, but I-I just can’t really have her digging into my life and I really do
not plan on hanging out with her or anything. I would prefer if she just kind of found a boyfriend or something and
moved on.
Vinny: And the thing about that is, I’m a dumbass guy. And I made stupid decisions where, I was at my lowest
point, many times, I would open up my email and suddenly here’s this girl who’s interested in me with similar
interests, and then suddenly here’s this really nice picture. And- I have a hard time with that because I couldn’t
refuse that for a while. That’s why I’m getting my emails completely vetted, because [sighs] I’ll be honest and it
sounds kinda lame but I don’t trust myself.
Vinny: So, yeah I fucked around a little bit but it’s not anyone’s business. The only reason it’s people’s business
is because y’know I’m more public online, and it just feels bad. Honestly, she doesn’t deserve that information,
because when you have an interpersonal relationship with another human being, usually the best way to have
that is to talk to them.
Vinny: So I guess your best bet maybe is just to say, y’know we kinda just don’t talk. We’re just like, y’know.
Vinny: No. I haven’t.
Vinny: We didn’t- we didn’t use protection- and that was, like, kind of both of our fault and I’ll even take the credit
for that one. Y’know, like I’m- I will apologize again for that, um, I should’ve been more like ‘Okay listen, we
should, y’know, we should do this’, and we then- It’s just um, not an easy decision to make when you’re both-
like, naked.
Vinny: And I have to say it is very flattering to me that you still want to talk to me like, after all the stuff and
y’know, everything that goes on and- the STD put a damper on the whole thing.
Vinny: You didn’t get, um… weird with me. You were never like, overly clingy. But my limit is so low, that I just
kinda, y’know I just back away. And then y’know someone else shows me interest and then I start thinking about
that.
Vinny: Y’know it does hurt to go back and think about if I- y’know, upset you or hurt you or anyone in general
because that was never my intent, ever? But it just kinda happens that way, and part of it is the status thing of
the, y’know, being the streamer, and the worst part is I still don’t feel that way. You know how fucking celebrity
worship culture can be. You write a couple good songs and suddenly you have the answer to everything.
Vinny: It’s been a slow process but let’s just say there’s a lot of stuff that makes me not happy about myself.
Where… y’know it seems perfectly fine, and it’s perfectly consensual, and then it turns into a huge source of
guilt. And so I just want to get past that in my life.
Vinny: I mean the attraction like I said was definitely real. And- y’know when I saw you at that first convention,
that was- y’know it was there immediately. Um, but I mean the conversation about whether or not what we did
was appropriate, I don’t think it’s anybody’s business except ours. The STD thing was so fucking stupid and I-I
beat myself about that because it’s like ‘well how? Y’know, how did that happen?’ I don’t- I don’t know how that
happened. And I feel bad it was to a nice person? That it happened to you? It’s like, so that bothers me. But um.
Vinny: Like, there are things that I have regrets about and I think about that make me upset and in some ways
sex is a way to forget about it. But at the same time, it doesn’t make it feel any better if someone you like
pushes you away, or like hides a bit, and that’s just who I am. Add to that, that you’re a member of like, a
community or you’re watching my streams and it just becomes more complicated. So- not good. Um, I get it. I
do.
Vinny: I’ll be honest, don’t take this the wrong way, I am- I feel shame- about the fact that I fucked fans. There’s
a great deal of shame. That I have- sometimes it keeps me up at night and I’m not happy about myself.
Me: Mhm.
Vinny: So I want you to be aware that that is not anything to do with you on a personal level. It’s- the aspect that I
could lose my career, or people view me a certain way. Ross views me a certain way. How would he view me if
he knew? Even though he’s fucked fans too. [laughs]
Me: Oh, spicy.
Vinny: Everyone has. Dude, when he and Holly broke up, y’know he went through a hard time. Um, Danny.
Y’know from the Game Grumps. Uh, but the point is this is something I think a lot of people do because it is,
y’know such a new medium and, y’know, when a video game nerd who’s not popular gets famous on the internet,
that’s not an easy thing- Like no [sighs] like there’s no rule book. Um.
Vinny: I can promise you that never in a conversation casually with any other person has it randomly popped
up. Like ‘oh, that person? Yeah I fucked that person.’ Or like ‘oh yeah, no we talk.’ That’s the first way to fucking
ruin your career, a., and b. I don’t like people knowing my business, and c. when people do connect dots or
whenever there’s some weird accusation, I don’t sleep. I don’t eat. I get really fucked up. So, uh yeah, that
wouldn’t come from me.
Me: I mean, I-I know I’m not the only person you did stuff with. I know. I’m not dumb. But…
Vinny: Yeah.
Me: I feel like it could be helpful for you to have a similar conversation just so you feel more at ease and less
bad about it. Y’know?
Vinny: May I ask with whom?
Me: Um, I know [redacted].
Vinny: Well-
Me: I know she would message me sometimes like ‘hey, has Vinny talked to you? Cuz he stopped talking to
me.’ And I didn’t really give her an answer. Just afraid of her messaging me again.
Vinny: I mean if she does, I guess you have the option of not responding, but uh. Or you can just say we
haven’t spoke. ‘Yeah me and Vin don’t really- y’know, he’s a good dude, we don’t really- we’ve gone our separate
ways.’ Um, whatever you think is best. I don’t know. But um, I plan on just kinda telling her that ‘listen, I’m in a-
I’m trying to be in a different place. And I’m sorry that I wasn’t able to be more of whatever you want me to be.’ I
just think she’s a very lonely weird person that is going through tough times. She got a little bit of happiness
because the favorite streamer dude that’s good-looking got in touch with her. I get how that can be a
psychological thing. Because this is pretty much what she told me. [laughs] I get it. But, y’know I can’t have her-
like, we talk once every three months maybe, but I-I just can’t really have her digging into my life and I really do
not plan on hanging out with her or anything. I would prefer if she just kind of found a boyfriend or something and
moved on.
Vinny: And the thing about that is, I’m a dumbass guy. And I made stupid decisions where, I was at my lowest
point, many times, I would open up my email and suddenly here’s this girl who’s interested in me with similar
interests, and then suddenly here’s this really nice picture. And- I have a hard time with that because I couldn’t
refuse that for a while. That’s why I’m getting my emails completely vetted, because [sighs] I’ll be honest and it
sounds kinda lame but I don’t trust myself.
Vinny: So, yeah I fucked around a little bit but it’s not anyone’s business. The only reason it’s people’s business
is because y’know I’m more public online, and it just feels bad. Honestly, she doesn’t deserve that information,
because when you have an interpersonal relationship with another human being, usually the best way to have
that is to talk to them.
Vinny: So I guess your best bet maybe is just to say, y’know we kinda just don’t talk. We’re just like, y’know.
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Red bard coming in with the worst take to say right now. The rest of the replies are people picking all the info apart but this is the only one that stands out defending the OP.
https://web.archive.org/web/2021040....com/RedBardIsCool/status/1378098160095072361
https://web.archive.org/web/2021040....com/Campbell__duo/status/1378110861211021313
https://web.archive.org/web/2021040....com/RedBardIsCool/status/1378098160095072361
https://web.archive.org/web/2021040....com/Campbell__duo/status/1378110861211021313
Here's a post showing the splices in audacity
people point at the fact that the poster explains it was spliced for brevity, but the quality of the audio is so shitty its possible its just a copycat mixed in with actual audio from the streams, im inclined to believe this because the audio quality jumps back and fort between Vinny quotes
update:
A lot of people are posting in defense of Vinny showcasing previous emails of him to show how he types and the discrepancies with OP
Alizarin a very prominent mod posted about this
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ScatmansWorld
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I'd like to give everyone lurking this thread another reminder that screencaps are not evidence.View attachment 2052932
https://archive.ph/LbUc0
https://archive.ph/AijKZ
Looks like that Tumblr blog is back with a vengeance. Should I even bring attention to this?
HOLY SHIT BASED
Yeah the poor audio quality definitely muddies the water on it's validity. Like I said, there's well over a thousand hours of Vinny speaking so splicing in real shit along with an impersonator or some god tier splicing is a possibility. But that might be the copium speaking so I'm still waiting for some audiophiles to enter the conversation.
Though shit like this really keeps me on the fence.
GPM always rubbed me the wrong way, but I wouldn't have suspected him of being this much of a weaselly little bitch.
True or not, the worst part about this is that a good percentage of non-viewers will now have the idea in their heads that Vinny's a groomer and associate that with Vinesauce forever.
Even if it's true, all that means is that Vinny fucked a consenting adult in her 20s. That's it. Yet somehow that'll get garbled into "Vinny = pedo groomer", since that's how the internet works.
Here she is, dropping one vague tweet whilst never elaborating on what she allegedly knows. This great injustice supposedly happened, but she held her tongue for years because she was afraid of Vinny Vinesauce, the Internet's version of Harvey Weinstein killing her business of talking about 90s anime gay porn.
Even if it's true, all that means is that Vinny fucked a consenting adult in her 20s. That's it. Yet somehow that'll get garbled into "Vinny = pedo groomer", since that's how the internet works.
High chance it's deepfaked. It has that same garbling that things like the 15.ai Spongebob and TF2 deepfakes have.
And now we get the people who supposedly "know" the "victims" coming out of the woodwork.
Here she is, dropping one vague tweet whilst never elaborating on what she allegedly knows. This great injustice supposedly happened, but she held her tongue for years because she was afraid of Vinny Vinesauce, the Internet's version of Harvey Weinstein killing her business of talking about 90s anime gay porn.
Now we're in the famewhoring phase of this. GPM's out of the woodwork to collect a bit of clout now.
ScatmansWorld
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Splicing a recording of supposed evidence "for brevity" is highly questionable and leads me more to believe it's fake. Either that or the poster is a special breed of retard.
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