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JimmerSnail

Waaaay too serious
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What streaming sites could he go to besides Pornhub tho?
Three good examples could be DLive, Mixer and Youtube Live. I'm sure there are more, like Caffeine [which has the stupid gimmick of not allowing anything beside their shitty client to stream] or obscure ones like Vaughn.live, but PH is still the best one, imho, the toxicity level is almost always low, and they pretty much allow for any kind of content. I recall someone doing Economy lessons in PH live.

going a bit off topic: I wish that PornHub would've bought youtube. I remember being a rumor of ph wanting to buy yt, but it was just a rumor. Too bad, they would've surely fixed jewtube. :optimistic:
(also mixer has some anti-thot rules, which makes it already a god-tier site for me.)

edit: Discord is also launching is "server-wide" streaming thing. Pretty much what TwitchApp\Curse Voice had a long time ago, back when it was usable for voice chat too (they removed it for no fucking reason).
 

saisegeha

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Nah, it's time you guys stop being delusional. Vinny won't switch platforms and he's not as bothered by the teenage trannies as we are because quite frankly they're flooding his bank account with Twitch money for doing the funny. And what's a better life than getting paid for playing games and referencing stuff that mostly only the OG's of the Vinesauce community understand so it goes over anyone else's head? I've got a strong feeling that Vinny knows where the community's headed, but he's also aware of us older members being there and that's why he's still making his references that the new-ish community members don't understand. Reminds me of Joel's VineWrestle two days ago where we had Quario and what not as wrestlers and 80% of the chat went "????? who is that?" only for Joel to laugh/go "YEAAAH" at the ones who still remembered him.

So let's just leave them be. If Vinny wouldn't be aware of his situation, he wouldn't be so good at hiding any propaganda. But the money's apparently great, a day has 24 hours, and he basically gets to do whatever the fuck he wants for 18-20 hours a day and some 24 when he just doesn't feel like streaming but the money still rolls in. What's better than that?

Unrelated, but I'm curious what Joel's "meeting" was yesterday morning. I mean, he doesn't have a job (other than streaming). Maybe his bank's acting up again, that used to happen quite frequently.
 
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What streaming sites could he go to besides Pornhub tho?
There are options, but the fact of the matter is they're not anywhere near as lucrative as Twitch. With the Amazon backing, Twitch is just the best choice - they have the most money making potential and a small semblance of job security thanks to the subscription system and things like bits and donations. Twitch as a platform isn't so bad, but it's obvious that whoever is behind the PR side of things is doing a piss poor job. They need a more detailed blanket rule regarding things like the usage of slurs/offensive content, because whatever they're using right now is doing fuck all. You can't just say "zero tolerance" and then let PewdiePie say the N-word for the 50th time that stream because of how much revenue he generates. (Does he stream on Twitch? I don't care; my point still stands.)

But that's all beside the point. Streamers like Vinny need fan interaction, and Twitch is the best service out there for real time streamer-viewer interactions and accessibility. That's the bottom line. He's not going to give up the money because of a few annoying people in chat. He's gonna bite the bullet and take it like a champ, and in a way, that's sort of respectable.
 

JimmerSnail

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Nah, it's time you guys stop being delusional. Vinny won't switch platforms and he's not as bothered by the teenage trannies as we are because quite frankly they're flooding his bank account with Twitch money for doing the funny. And what's a better life than getting paid for playing games and referencing stuff that mostly only the OG's of the Vinesauce community understand so it goes over anyone else's head? I've got a strong feeling that Vinny knows where the community's headed, but he's also aware of us older members being there and that's why he's still making his references that the new-ish community members don't understand. Reminds me of Joel's VineWrestle two days ago where we had Quario and what not as wrestlers and 80% of the chat went "????? who is that?" only for Joel to laugh/go "YEAAAH" at the ones who still remembered him.

So let's just leave them be. If Vinny wouldn't be aware of his situation, he wouldn't be so good at hiding any propaganda. But the money's apparently great, a day has 24 hours, and he basically gets to do whatever the fuck he wants for 18-20 hours a day and some 24 when he just doesn't feel like streaming but the money still rolls in. What's better than that?
There are options, but the fact of the matter is they're not anywhere near as lucrative as Twitch. With the Amazon backing, Twitch is just the best choice - they have the most money making potential and a small semblance of job security thanks to the subscription system and things like bits and donations. Twitch as a platform isn't so bad, but it's obvious that whoever is behind the PR side of things is doing a piss poor job. They need a more detailed blanket rule regarding things like the usage of slurs/offensive content, because whatever they're using right now is doing fuck all. You can't just say "zero tolerance" and then let PewdiePie say the N-word for the 50th time that stream because of how much revenue he generates. (Does he stream on Twitch? I don't care; my point still stands.)

But that's all beside the point. Streamers like Vinny need fan interaction, and Twitch is the best service out there for real time streamer-viewer interactions and accessibility. That's the bottom line. He's not going to give up the money because of a few annoying people in chat. He's gonna bite the bullet and take it like a champ, and in a way, that's sort of respectable.
I agree wholly. I forgot to mention in my old reply that I was only listing the possible alternatives, and that twitch isn't sinking right now, although some sites (like google trends or similarweb) shown that twitch was losing some users, but it's now slightly recovering from it, so it wouldn't make sense to change platform right now, I agree with you with that (that, and that twitch is technically the more superior platform, like Youtube is the more technically superior platform when it comes to video sharing).

Although some people who've been monitoring that kind of data are now speculating\theorizing that this 'recovery' isn't going to last forever, nor it will fix twitch's losses (a portion of twitch userbase comes from Curse, since they bought it now those users get counted inside the twitch container), especially if they won't fix their shit (i.e.: camgirls having a special treatment).
They're starting to lose big names like Ninja (and while I don't like his content, I don't see why the Twitch staff had to be so childish about it), and this is probably just the beginning. Though, like you both said, with amazon backing them up, Twitch will probably find someone to sign contracts with, or will do some massive PR campaign, or something like that.
Still, I do hope they flip and die, I hate how they manage things and how bad they push some channels that agree with some of their narrative.
 
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saisegeha

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Point doesn't stand because: a) he's lost something with twitch, I can't recall what, though. b) he streams almost exclusively on d-live, and he's pretty calm there, from what I've seen ('nother shit site,but I digress)
Point stands if you quoted the twitch cam girls, where they can go almost fully naked doing softcore porn for underage teens, but if a man does it, he'll get banned. (or he'll get banned if he bitches on cam about these camgirls)

Why are you so mad at Twitch thots, though? I don't watch them either but they provide some form of entertainment to (obviously) teens too which is what Twitch has been about for a while now, not just games, so.
Don't really see how that ties in with Vinny, or why he'd have to even care they exist either (unless Vinny's about to stream topless and complain about the tough competition lmao).
 

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Point doesn't stand because: a) he's lost something with twitch, I can't recall what, though. b) he streams almost exclusively on d-live, and he's pretty calm there, from what I've seen ('nother shit site,but I digress)
The point wasn't about PewdiePie himself, but rather, the inconsistency and hypocrisy of Twitch staff - how some streamers can get their shit kicked in for simple things (such as Joel getting banned from Twitch for streaming a game that was called "Fuck You"), while more serious problems are just straight up ignored. There's definitely a disconnect there.


Don't really see how that ties in with Vinny, or why he'd have to even care they exist either (unless Vinny's about to stream topless and complain about the tough competition lmao).
There's a lot of people out there who'd pay good money for a topless Vinny stream. He's missing out on a new potential market!
 

JimmerSnail

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The point wasn't about PewdiePie himself, but rather, the inconsistency and hypocrisy of Twitch staff - how some streamers can get their shit kicked in for simple things (such as Joel getting banned from Twitch for streaming a game that was called "Fuck You"), while more serious problems are just straight up ignored. There's definitely a disconnect there.
Ah, I'm sorry, I got confused there. True, twitch's hypocrisy with their rules is abysmal, do you remember when they implemented that stupid new set of rules where you were also responsible of whatever your Chat said? some people were banned for that, as if they where directly responsible for whatever their chat said.
By the way, I'm sorry for both going off topic and sperging a bit.
 
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I love how Vinny's stream of Ion Fury has a noticeable number of dislikes because spergs have to virtue signal about assumed "transphobia". I bet the chat was a goddamn dumpster fire.

The comment section is a mix of discord trannies and vinny's OG politically incorrect fanbase clashing. It's kind of interesting, honestly. It showcases just how large the divide is between the fans.
 

JimmerSnail

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I love how Vinny's stream of Ion Fury has a noticeable number of dislikes because spergs have to virtue signal about assumed "transphobia". I bet the chat was a goddamn dumpster fire.

I think someone has started deleting comments, because I swear it was full of shit, and checking out now I see it has been somewhat cleansed, or maybe it's just me and those spergful comments have been just buried by other, more relevant comments.
 

saisegeha

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I think someone has started deleting comments, because I swear it was full of shit, and checking out now I see it has been somewhat cleansed, or maybe it's just me and those spergful comments have been just buried by other, more relevant comments.
They're still there if you sort by newest. Although I'll never understand your obsession with Vinny and trannies.
 

JimmerSnail

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your obsession with Vinny and trannies
What? I quoted someone else, but I saw the video earlier and saw some of the comments, but someone already posted her before me. I didn't knew the comments were still there, I guess they just got buried.
If anything my only 'obsession' are the twitch's thots and staff, but even then I don't care much,tbh.
 
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I do love how the IF Devs pretty much said "You know what? on second thought, fuck off!" on censoring the naughty no no words. I would assume Vinny had chat shut off that night or finally installed FFZ or BTTV like Joel has? Cause I have started noticing in chat more people are saying "Just install FFZ or BTTV and filter out those emojis" to people who complain about the mpreg mario and transhearts emojis

And yes the discord/tumblr fanatics get mad at those who don't like mpreg mario...cause you guessed it, no not that its a fetish or used for a joke, but: transphobia.
 

titty skeleton

bones are transphobic :/
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I do love how the IF Devs pretty much said "You know what? on second thought, fuck off!" on censoring the naughty no no words. I would assume Vinny had chat shut off that night or finally installed FFZ or BTTV like Joel has? Cause I have started noticing in chat more people are saying "Just install FFZ or BTTV and filter out those emojis" to people who complain about the mpreg mario and transhearts emojis

And yes the discord/tumblr fanatics get mad at those who don't like mpreg mario...cause you guessed it, no not that its a fetish or used for a joke, but: transphobia.
Hahaha holy shit for real? I'm guessing the mpreg mario emote in question is moon2PREGARIO and moon2PREGIGI? These days I only ever really watch fullsauce and haven't gotten to any mention of it in the FF9 streams. I've seen the emotes around though. Are they spammed in chat for any reason like a pushback against trans pride spam or is it just regular shitposting?
 
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Hahaha holy shit for real? I'm guessing the mpreg mario emote in question is moon2PREGARIO and moon2PREGIGI? These days I only ever really watch fullsauce and haven't gotten to any mention of it in the FF9 streams. I've seen the emotes around though. Are they spammed in chat for any reason like a pushback against trans pride spam or is it just regular shitposting?
Probably a mix of both.
 

A Sign

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seems this is how it all started. Purely as a shitpost emoji.


But then *they* got hold of it plus people who got sick of transhearts spam.
 

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He got real salty over a shitpost wow
I guess it would've happened eventually, but I hope people will spam that meme anyway. Just for the sake of it (and his hypocrisy)
I was watching that stream, and it didn't sound like "stop posting that dumb shit you fucking idiot" seriousness. More like "haha you dumbass stop posting that or you're getting a ban" jokes. I didn't really see if anyone actually got banned, but if they did, I'd probably guess it's part of the "no NSFW content" adage that many Twitch streamers have been adhering to nowadays, and less about anything Vinny himself cares about. After all, even if the joke is funny, if it puts his channel at risk of getting trashed by Twitch, why let it slide?

Vinny himself doesn't seem to really care about NSFW or NSFW-ish content unless he considers it a risk to his career, and in all honesty, he really never did. Consider the Zedrin (spelling?) fiasco from a few years ago - he knew that was a NSFW artist, and only got pissed off when they seemed to be specifically targeting his stream in a negative way. It seems like he's willing to tolerate a certain degree of NSFW content, and only fights it if it's not funny/if it threatens his livelihood.
 
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