my browser still had the post that was edited to say F and unless a moderator tells me otherwise or removes it from my post here it is:
So I've been wanting to complain about Joel for a while, he is so sensitive and I'm not talking about "no no words" or whatever the fuck, I'm talking how at times it feels the chat is pussyfooting around him. I have no idea why the person who added the mod, added the" exceptional individual" shit that could've gotten Joel banned (according to chat), but couldn't figure out how to update the mods after what? 2 weeks?
That same moderator, gets so fucking pissed, even at other mods for the smallest shit in offline chat. I've seen it first hand. Got upset because a mod made joke, then that same mod got upset when someone asked him a question about the sims 4 mods that HE FUCKED UP.
also, Joel was fucking wrong about how updates work. The guy he has handling the mods, has expressed that he did something, so he couldn't update the mods right away, neither seems to know how the game works. It made me cringe seeing people getting tilted that Ea updates the game, a update hat happened on the fucking 11th and his dumb ass moderator could'nt figure out how to get the mods to Joel. Joel made it seem like you can't play the game until all the mods were updated which isn't fucking true what makes it worst is ALMOST EVERY MOD HE USES HAS BEEN UPDATED the issue isn't Ea's updates, it's the Joel and the fucker mod handling keeping his game up to date
Then something that fucking annoys me SO much, is Joel has done this maybe three times. He comes into chat, says something, or will go in Jerma's chat, knowing there's people waiting on a stream and instead of informing people "Hey there's no stream" he does nothing.
Once he came in to ask advice about a video he was editing, knowing people were waiting on an fucking stearm gave no answers.
I know people like Joel here, but it's annoying to watch him at times.
It's not a horrible post by any means but it's kinda odd to make an account on the farms specifically to air out grievances with a streamer. Are you an active member of Joel's community and can you contribute to the thread more? His moderator sounds like a dumbass so that's a fair thing to talk about.
Forgive me, I'm obviously new and I posted what I posted (and didn't know how to delete) out of annoyance. I'm back now to explain what was going on. Firstly, I've been watching Joel on youtube off and on since 2015 I think the earliest. I recently only started watching him on twitch.I can't say I know everything about what's going on but I know the name of the mod in question and he's far from a dumbass. Something to consider with the Sims is that one, Joel is not using his own account for it, he's using another mod's account, and both the Origin launcher and Joel's own computer had some updates that completely fucked with the original pack of mods that the... mod-providing mod (this is getting meta) put on. He's said as such in chat. I think it's because everything involved is strung together between three people, but then again, I don't know how modding the Sims even works in the first place.
As for the r-slur thing? Guarantee that Joel was not offended. Several of his mods say it in casual speech outside of Twitch, they're just smart enough not to light any fires within Twitch itself.
I've always had a love-hate relationship with Vinesauce, Vinny & Joel being the only people I watched. I've lurked offline chat on and off, I barely comment there.
Either way, let me clear up why I deleted my post and made a new account, I linked the wrong email and a bunch of dumb bullshit. Either way, I didn't mean to call the moderator names and I felt I was too aggressive as well.
On how modding the Sims works. I have no idea what's up with Joel's origin. Even when he mentioned it before i was confused because like plenty of others, my Origin updated fine and so did my game. Mods work like this for the sims 4.
There's a mod folder in the Sims 4 folder, you download mods that come in the form or package files, you put those package files in the Sims folder. You can put them in folders you can use another program to merge the package files. There's also script files, that can only be one folder deep and to my knowledge, you shouldn't merge. Script mods Change gameplay in big ways. Gameplay changes can come in package files as well, but not as big as script files.
I'm aware that this is going through three people, however, Mods are NOT connected to origin. As in, if you wanted some mods from me, I could just copy my mod folder and send it to you, now mods DO depend on what DLC you have if they aren't base game but it's basically how all modding works.
From what I got last night, Joel made it seem as if the issue was EA updating the game (as I said, the last big update was the 11th of November, it's up to the modders to update their mods and even if EA did have a modkit (which it should) he'd still have the issue he's having, it's not even EA's fault, he'd have to wait for the Moderator to send the updated mods that Joel seems to not be able to get for himself) and then the mod was acting like it's SO hard to update the mods, like, "it's hell guys" when the issue isn't updating the mods, it's having to go through three people.
They've all had more then enough time to update the game. I guess my issue is more so when Joel or even other streamers, say things and don't have any idea what they are talking about.
Oh and I was annoyed the chat was all going, "Fuck EA" based on what Joel was saying which wasn't even true. The issue is just that Joel can't for whatever reason get the files to the updated mods that the moderator is supposed to handle. It's been 2 weeks since a sims 4 stream and 3 weeks since the update, they couldn't figure out a better way to handle this?
Like, Joel couldn't update the damn mods his own self? It's so unorganized. Also, if you pull mods out of Sims 4 then you can STILL play the game. If it's a script mod, you just don't have that, if it's CC or buy mode then it gets replaced with base game/dlc items.
I guess people in chat thought that the game was broken because the mods are embedded into the game once you add them, like if you remove them then ur Game is unplayable?
Which isn't true.to be honest, I hve no idea what chat was upset about. The game updated on the 11th and Joel can't be bothered to handle looking up the mods and updating them?
It's like there's 3 people doing this but none of them seem to know how to get the mods updated, so they go,"EA is bad for updating the game so often" when i'm positive Joel doesn't even have that many script mods that need updating and the Mod who adds his own mods can update them on his own. Again I add, the update happened on the 11th of November.
Sorry for the rant. I have no personal issue with Joel or that Moderator (besides seeing him act like a baby, but the excuse is always, "he works alot" but still, i don't see it a reason as to act like a jerk to other mods and get pissy, multiple times). I've lurked this thread off and on, the last 3 months, so I came here because there's really nowhere to go.
I've always felt Joel gets upset and then gets upset about Chat reacting to him getting upset, then he gets mad at chat. At one point he went,"If yall want to argue go to facebook" when no one seemed to be arguing?
To me it seemed like people were trying to solve the issue. It was just the mods spamming over and over again, about the mistake Joel made is a mistake or something like that. The whole Sims 4 part of the stream was a shit show and I've long suspected Joel doesn't like them anyway. Then the moderator has broken mods in the game anyway. That fortnite mod causes Last exceptions, he couldn't travel probably because he added that Bonzi buddy background to the in-game world.
(Oh and even the MOD said that EA supports mods somewhat, the issue isn't EA patching the base game and updating, it's three unorganized people, who over the span of 2 weeks (3 weeks if we are counting when the update happened) Not being able to update the damn script mods.
I guess for me to be lurking on that stream I actually play the game, so it was just annoying to see all this weird shit about how the updates worked, when the issue is that they can't prepare for a once a week (or once every 2 or 3 week) stream. It'd prob take Joel what? 15 minutes to update script mods and check & see if the game runs correctly. Instead, it's all this bullshit.
edit- Also may I add him saying EA don't support modding is not even the issue. The issue isn't the modders not updating their mods (some of the mods he has have been updated TWICE since the last update) it's that he can't get the updated mods from the Moderator. So that doesn't even make sense. I think he feels his issue is an common issue when it isn't. Most people just update their mods and if they aren't updated then they play without them or wait for them to be updated if they are must have mods. Even if there was a mod kit it'd STILL be this way.
The devs even will answer questions for modders about code changes or warn them ahead of time about new features and how it effects mods.