Virtual Youtubers - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost

Deluxe

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>What is wrong with you disgusting freaks

>Why are you mean to me I was just asking questions out of genuine curiosity to understand your hobby

I don't understand this pattern. I can't even call it trolling because trolls shouldn't backtrack. Maybe there should be a FAQ of some sort for the extremely low hanging fruit questions. I don't blame people who come in here asking wtf is going on because it is a weird and new niche thing but still. I think the bad rep comes from mostly ENVtuber degeneracy on twitter that is adjacent to lolcow circles and not even close to representative of the industry as a whole, which is dominated by corporate vtubers who are a different beast all together. The type of literally-who vtweeter that kiwifarmers might know gets 0-100 live viewers compared to the 10k live viewers that corporate vtubers get every day.
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Here's some questions that get asked all the time:

>Are they all actually men with voice changers?
All the popular ones are the gender they portray themselves as. There are male and female vtubers. Female vtubers are generally more popular. Getting away with faking your gender is very difficult to achieve for long periods of time, even with an anime avatar. Viewers already knew the streamer known as Noracat was a fat dude before the infamous video "outed" him. Nobody was tricked.

Some men do use female avatars, but they don't try to hide anything. They're called babiniku.

>Are they all Japanese?
The biggest ones are Japanese but there are bilingual and exclusively English speaking ones too. There are also indonesian, russian, chinese speakers that have smaller audiences.

>Why are they all lolis
Most of the popular ones aren't.

>Are they all pretending to be your girlfriend?
Some are, some aren't. Parasocial relationships are just as common as normal streaming. Some companies implicitly maintain idol conventions like Hololive. Other companies don't care and let their streamers date openly. Independent streamers can do whatever they want.

>Why do they hide what they look like IRL?
It depends on the streamer. Maybe it's part of their brand. Maybe they're shy. Maybe they value their privacy. Maybe they have a face fit for radio. Some don't care at all whether people know what they look like IRL. Vtubing is just an intermediate step between streaming without a facecam and streaming with one.

>What do they actually do in streams?
Not that different from your average twitch streamer for most. Mainly talk to the viewers, play games, collab with each other. Many of the popular ones produce ancillary content like music videos, 3D streams (streams using 3d motion capture) and even live concerts. The most popular vtubers in Japan are basically celebrities at this point and do press releases, tv appearances and marketing promotions.

>Who watches this shit?
For the largest Japanese corporate vtubers, the viewer demographics are predominantly single men, 18-30. Some vtubers have a high proportion of female fans though. People watch this shit for a variety of reasons that are too long to list, but for the casual viewer, it's because vtubers put out long form content that can be consumed passively that is currently in demand thanks to the current pandemic accelerating the atomization of modern society. Either that, or "lol funni anime girl said the n word".
 
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LullerDerbyRollin

I have no mouth and I have only more to scream
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Alright I'll fuck off then, I was actually trying to get an understanding of what the fuck the appeal of this shit would be outside of fetish material. Oh well. I don't want to be responsible for someone necking themselves because I said watching vtubers is brain rot. Best of luck, hope you move on from this shit.
No one genuinely serious about learning anything asks a question the way you did. You can't blame anyone but yourself if you're misunderstood here.

On the off chance you were sincere, then let me put it simply. Vtubers that get popular, that get watched and talk about here without getting made fun of, are genuinely nice and interesting people who wanna get famous for entertaining people. A lot of the female ones tend to be young adults all the way up to middle aged women. This is no different than finding a streamer without an avatar that isn't autistic or annoying, as much a unicorn as that may be. In fact, maybe that's why we watch Japanese streamers, because we don't find them autistic or annoying due to possible cultural differences.
 

curambar

Amateur
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>What is wrong with you disgusting freaks

>Why are you mean to me I was just asking questions out of genuine curiosity to understand your hobby

I don't understand this pattern. I can't even call it trolling because trolls shouldn't backtrack. Maybe there should be a FAQ of some sort for the extremely low hanging fruit questions. I don't blame people who come in here asking wtf is going on because it is a weird and new niche thing but still. I think the bad rep comes from mostly ENVtuber degeneracy on twitter that is adjacent to lolcow circles and not even close to representative of the industry as a whole, which is dominated by corporate vtubers who are a different beast all together. The type of literally who vtweeter that kiwifarmers might know gets 0-100 live viewers compared to the 10k live viewers that corporate vtubers get every day.

Here's some questions that get asked all the time:

>Are they all actually men with voice changers?
All the popular ones are the gender they portray themselves as. There are male and female vtubers.
Some men do use female avatars though, but they don't try to hide anything.

>Are they all japanese?
The biggest ones are japanese but there are bilingual and english speaking ones too.

>Why are they all lolis
Most of the popular ones aren't.

>Are they all pretending to be your girlfriend?
Some are, some aren't. Parasocial relationships are just as common as normal streaming.

This mini FAQ could be a good addition to the forum topic, @5t3n0g0ph3r
 

c4gest4ge

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Of the small number of popular male vtubers and male vtuber-affiliated-streamers I think Merry has become one of my favs to watch. Looks like he had a pretty busy day today lol
Speaking of 'what if they're all fat middle-aged men behind the avatar' bunny's tits are even bigger IRL, and that isn't a secret.
Compare her Vtuber twitter to her IRL twitter.
 

5t3n0g0ph3r

Resident Archivist
Local Moderator
True & Honest Fan
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>What is wrong with you disgusting freaks

>Why are you mean to me I was just asking questions out of genuine curiosity to understand your hobby

I don't understand this pattern. I can't even call it trolling because trolls shouldn't backtrack. Maybe there should be a FAQ of some sort for the extremely low hanging fruit questions. I don't blame people who come in here asking wtf is going on because it is a weird and new niche thing but still. I think the bad rep comes from mostly ENVtuber degeneracy on twitter that is adjacent to lolcow circles and not even close to representative of the industry as a whole, which is dominated by corporate vtubers who are a different beast all together. The type of literally who vtweeter that kiwifarmers might know gets 0-100 live viewers compared to the 10k live viewers that corporate vtubers get every day.

Here's some questions that get asked all the time:

>Are they all actually men with voice changers?
All the popular ones are the gender they portray themselves as. There are male and female vtubers.
Some men do use female avatars though, but they don't try to hide anything.

>Are they all japanese?
The biggest ones are japanese but there are bilingual and english speaking ones too.

>Why are they all lolis
Most of the popular ones aren't.

>Are they all pretending to be your girlfriend?
Some are, some aren't. Parasocial relationships are just as common as normal streaming.

>Why do they hide what they look like IRL?
It depends on the streamer.

>What do they actually do in streams?
Not that different from your average twitch streamer for most. Mainly talk to the viewers, play games, collab with each other. Many of the popular ones produce ancillary content like music videos and 3D streams (streams using 3d motion capture).
I wish I can pin this post. It's perfect.
 

Am Gay

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Of the small number of popular male vtubers and male vtuber-affiliated-streamers I think Merry has become one of my favs to watch. Looks like he had a pretty busy day today lol
I've been following some of the stuff he's been doing with his artist friends since the internet explorer comics days and he seems like a chill dude. Never watched his vtuber streams though.
 

reinigen

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Speaking of 'what if they're all fat middle-aged men behind the avatar' bunny's tits are even bigger IRL, and that isn't a secret.
Compare her Vtuber twitter to her IRL twitter.
is Bunny_Gif fun to watch? I'm a sucker for that cute southern drawl, and her snorting laughter is great.

I've been following some of the stuff he's been doing with his artist friends since the internet explorer comics days and he seems like a chill dude. Never watched his vtuber streams though.
I've been watching Lumi, who pals with Merryweather it seems. Might be worth to check him out if he's as fun as Lumi is.
 

curambar

Amateur
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Speaking of 'what if they're all fat middle-aged men behind the avatar' bunny's tits are even bigger IRL, and that isn't a secret.
Compare her Vtuber twitter to her IRL twitter.
Those are some serious dobonhonkeros. Not on the same scale, but Hololive resident bunny girl has also bigger IRL booba.
On the other hand, there are some avatars with exaggerated mammaries, like Coco.
 

c4gest4ge

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is Bunny_Gif fun to watch? I'm a sucker for that cute southern drawl, and her snorting laughter is great.
I mean, I've got shit taste. I don't mind her in collabs but I don't watch her on her own.

Oh but her showing up in chat in one of Melody's chaturbate streams, dropping a bunch of money and starting to dirty talk with Melly was great.
 

DrStupid

Resident Chumbud
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What in the world do you get out of a fat middle aged man pretending to be an anime girl? I mean it's pure fucking mind rot. I'm being serious here, I don't understand.
There's been literal videos and pictures of roommates and people still say they're middle aged fat men.

Speaking of 'what if they're all fat middle-aged men behind the avatar' bunny's tits are even bigger IRL, and that isn't a secret.
Compare her Vtuber twitter to her IRL twitter.
Ohhhhh, so that's why she dialed down her personal account a while back, she started vtubing! Looks like her gf (?) did the exact same thing.
What I don't really get is why she's breaking kayfabe from the get go. Was it her decision or was she outed and said "fuck it"?
 
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Suikafag

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The only alternative I can think of is that place but it's practically a startup website. i guess it would be a half decent alternative in case the thread gets nuked anyway
>VarishHangout
Thats....actually the site I was thinking of. Seems you beat me to the punch so to speak.
 

Am Gay

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is Bunny_Gif fun to watch? I'm a sucker for that cute southern drawl, and her snorting laughter is great.
Holy shit, i didn't notice it at first but this bunny girl used to have a patreon where she posted semi nudes under the name Bunny Ayumi (i don't know if it's still active), she even had pictures together with SwimsuitSuccubus. I don't know if she's good, but based on the content she used to create i'm more inclined to think that she has no personality or talent.
 
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Sithis

Dread Lord of the Void
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Speaking of 'what if they're all fat middle-aged men behind the avatar' bunny's tits are even bigger IRL, and that isn't a secret.
Compare her Vtuber twitter to her IRL twitter.
Oh I know lol she has some big ole grade A Murican South titties. Silvervale irl has some decent knockers too.
is Bunny_Gif fun to watch? I'm a sucker for that cute southern drawl, and her snorting laughter is great.


I've been watching Lumi, who pals with Merryweather it seems. Might be worth to check him out if he's as fun as Lumi is.
She really started to shine imo during their D&D nights with Arcadum (speaking of which for anyone interested, dude is already planning next game and our favorite resident trash panda Snuffy will be playing so it should be interesting) and does great in collabs. On her own I think sometimes she has trouble breaking from the irl streamer mindset though she has improved a lot over recent months in terms of interacting with chat and playing the character. I've noticed she kinda started gravitating more toward the less-lewd members of the group such as Zen and she also pals around with Momo a lot.
 

Takodachi

タコニナル
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welp, Ina is having a mini watch along of Calli's new EP, I guess I'll just mute it for 5 minutes and go get a beer or something.
 
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