Virtue Ethics and the Modern Left - a highly autistic essay - ITT: Why SJWs like Harry Potter so fucking much

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Spunt

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When your ideology is so perfect every possible school of morality approves of it. View attachment 1228412

You missed the point by quite some way there dude.

The point is that almost any ideology can be arrived at by these three means. I used Ancap just as an example, it's not my own personal belief. Let's try another one, non-Marxist Socialism:

Deontology - Inequality is in itself immoral, and therefore there is a moral imperative to correct it wherever it occurs. Redistribution of wealth is therefore always good and something we should always do.
Consequentialism - Inequality leads to suffering, especially as there is a "diminishing returns" aspect to wealth whereby $1000 means nothing to a millionaire but would transform the life of some third-world serf. Therefore redistribution leads to the greatest possible aggregate outcome for society.
Virtue Ethics - Regarding other people as equal is how a good person should think. Your actions should therefore flow from that belief and will probably lead to redistribution of wealth in the real world.

See? The point I was making was that these three ethical schools are not linked to certain ideologies, that you can arrive at almost any ideology regardless of what school of ethics you follow, because that depends on what values you consider "good".
 

Stoneheart

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i realy dont get all of this...
these arent ethic codes, its just cunts who like to whine alot.

See? The point I was making was that these three ethical schools are not linked to certain ideologies, that you can arrive at almost any ideology regardless of what school of ethics you follow, because that depends on what values you consider "good".
those arent ethic schools, its just gibberish from leftist anglo academics.
Its a bunch of moral ideas that dont work together.

You can test if those systems can work yourself very easyly. with the essence of modern ethics...

Handle so, daß die Maxime deines Willens jederzeit zugleich als Prinzip einer allgemeinen Gesetzgebung gelten könne.

the trolley problem is also not a problem, you safe the 5.
 

Spunt

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i realy dont get all of this...
these arent ethic codes, its just cunts who like to whine alot.
those arent ethic schools, its just gibberish from leftist anglo academics.
Its a bunch of moral ideas that dont work together.

It's really sad that the media have fooled people that actually thinking about ethics, morals and politics is an inherently left-wing idea when it absolutely isn't. And the greatest right-wing figure in political philosophy, Friedrich von Hayek, was in fact Austrian. Good books of his to read include "The Road to Serfdom", about how Socialism leads to totalitarianism, and "The Constitution of Liberty", about how freedom is good and can form the basis of a just society. Other good right-leaning ethicists and philosophers to study include Samuel Brittan, Robert Nozick and Francis Fukuyama.

It really bugs me when people refuse to think about what they believe. "I don't need no fancy theories to know what's right, I just know I'm right." If someone who disagreed with you said that, you'd call them a fanatic.

the trolley problem is also not a problem, you safe the 5.

You'd think so, wouldn't you? I certainly would save the 5, I'm a consequentialist, but you would be really surprised how many people wouldn't.

Let's take a look at Clawshrimpy again, who is an excellent lolcow to study when it comes to confused left-wing ethics. Shrimps is obsessed with an anime called GaoGaiGar, which - full disclosure - I haven't seen myself so I am going on what I have read. There is a piviotal scene where the protagonist panics and freezes in a moment of great danger and becomes suicidal. If he doesn't act the world will literally end. One of the other characters literally slaps some sense into him by smacking him in the face. This brings him to his senses, he does the thing he needs to do, and billions of lives are saved.

Shrimpy insisted, on the SA anime boards, that the character who slapped him was in the wrong, because "abuse is wrong". For Shrimpy, the consequences of this act of "abuse" (the saving of billions of lives) was irrelevant, "abuse" is wrong and you shouldn't do it under any circumstances even if it leads to a literal apocalypse. Classic extreme deontological thinking. He then got into an argument with Harry Brewis (aka reasonably successful Breadtuber Hbomberguy) who tried to convince him that, you know, one slap isn't really much of a trade for billions of lives, but Shrimpy wasn't having it. Brewis then tried to get him to answer the trolley problem, and Shrimpy had a massive meltdown. This is the incident that sparked his feud with Hbomberguy, which has been ongoing for nearly a decade.

Clawshrimpy is one of my favourite lolcows, because his psychology is so weird and fascinating.
 

Lemmingwise

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It's really sad that the media have fooled people that actually thinking about ethics, morals and politics is an inherently left-wing idea

I don't think this is broadly true. Maybe to some of the naive and the young.

Besides, we see more moralism than morals from the media anyways.
 

D.Va

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I tried reading the communist manifesto once and gave up after the twentieth "bourgeoisie". Online marxists either never read the book, or are genuine ret.ards
 

Oglooger

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I tried reading the communist manifesto once and gave up after the twentieth "bourgeoisie". Online marxists either never read the book, or are genuine ret.ards
The book doesn't even offer solutions, it just cries and cries how things are unfair and that people should be free, because reasons.
Even Mein Kampf offered full autistic solutions to problems.
 
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