Vocaloid and its Community - autistic slapfights over anime musical instruments

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try and one up me again bitch
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Hopefully mikumiku_ebooks getting #cancelled will mean people will stop using these obnoxious "Miku made/said this thing" memes considering they were the one who started them.
Anyways, good riddance. Heard they were generally very pushy and weird to anyone they decided to creep on, regardless of age.
17 is a very weird age cutoff for a 20 year old (especially since they were willing to go 3 years younger but only 1 year older), so it gives me the vibe that they possibly had a particular 17 year old in mind while making those tweets that they were trying to suade.
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https://twitter.com/chericooI/status/1362481038505766920 (archive is taking awhile, but a link anyways)
 

Dorami

(Currently) Out of Season.
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There is current drama about Miku Miku ebooks
While I don't have a horse in this race I'm going to contribute to this one, mostly because the screenshots are very small and archive links are always nice to have available.
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And, while I was at it, I also found this post which featured more threads on @cybershoujo and their online shenanigans, just in case you guys feel like reading more Twitter drama.
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Sadly, a couple of the quoted posts in this thread were deleted by their respective OPs, but this thread looked like a compilation of the on-going drama and, thankfully, the posts were in chronological order already. It's always funny to watch these communities cannibalize each other.

(Some of the archive links are TBA atm, but that's because my archiver is getting quite slow. I will update this post as soon as they're ready.)​
 

Yukari Yakumo

>Can beat a Rathian on her own
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While I don't have a horse in this race I'm going to contribute to this one, mostly because the screenshots are very small and archive links are always nice to have available.
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And, while I was at it, I also found this post which featured more threads on @cybershoujo and their online shenanigans, just in case you guys feel like reading more Twitter drama.
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Sadly, a couple of the quoted posts in this thread were deleted by their respective OPs, but this thread looked like a compilation of the on-going drama and, thankfully, the posts were in chronological order already. It's always funny to watch these communities cannibalize each other.

(Some of the archive links are TBA atm, but that's because my archiver is getting quite slow. I will update this post as soon as they're ready.)​
Does this means that Miku says trans rights is finally dead?.. of course not, these bitches fap to Miku as if their life depends on it.
 

Erika Furudo

Me an intellectual 🎶
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"Vocaloid and its community"

(as far as i remember) Vocaloid didn't use to have a community like this 13 years ago. 10 years ago it was just people listening to the songs and watching amazing MVs from NicoNicoDouga reposted on Youtube and drawing fan art of them, or doing 2000s-era weeb shit and writing lore for the original vocaloids. at least for normies like me

Nowadays its been entirely co-opted by trannies and genderspecials who feel the need to project their insecurities or identity issues on fictional anime characters like Miku and force her into unfunny "memes" like "Hatsune Miku created [insert well-beloved media created by a person whose politics don't align with the Twitter crowd]".

The moment I saw Miku in one of those Snapcube dubs (super popular somewhat funny dubs of video games made by twitter trannies), I fucking knew the forced "miku is a progressive god" twitter interpretation of Miku took over the original interpretation of the character, more interested in using her for internet politics rather than fun little cutesy songs aggressively trying to sell you vegetable juice.
I think vocaloid will be fine. I never really looked/cared beyond the games and some of the more popular music but I think vocaloid and touhou are 2 communities that will be immune to western liberal infestation despite popularity online.

How can you take over a community that is relatively decentralized, and heavily reliant on fan made contributions? These people have no talent, and even if they did it would be buried under all their preachy BS. As long as there are passionate, talented people who can afford the software, there will always be a source of vocaloid content. The only reall issue would be sifting through everything to find said content, but I don't think these people can do much outside echo chambers.
 

Erika Furudo

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(B) Doubt
How so? These people mostly consume content, they don't create it, and even if they create content it's usually really bad. Meanwhile the core audience of both those fandoms is Japanese otaku who care very little for outsiders in their hobby. Even if people got into the fandom, their content would be competing with the talented autistic veterans of the sub-culture, and when it comes down to it, people won't be keeping up with shit content when there are better options.
Videogames are different, they had industries, and HR and all that shit allowing them to be ruined. Zun is pretty chill with what people can and can't do with Touhou, Vocaloid not so much, but westerners don't matter in Japan as most of their money is from domestic otaku.

Why do you think these people are a threat? I 100% agree with gatekeeping, but again these people contribute nothing, no one listens to them (in Japan) and they can't compete with the existing fandom. The need for fan-made content will ensure they never have any real power.
 

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I remember there being a MMD community thread that was in Proving Grounds, I wish we could merge some of the OP + replies with the new thread. Seeing kids rip each other apart for copying and pasting 3D model parts has always been a delight to witness even like 8 years later, it will never not be funny.

Anyway if some people here are reading this thread and are wondering "Who the FUCK is GHOST?!", I shall now attempt a very poorly worded summary!
GHOST is a very popular song producer, if not one of the many faces of the western song producer community, whos songs range from child-on-a-keyboard-for-the-first-time to mediocre. Her tool of the trade is GarageBand, until she switched to Logic Pro sometime in 2019. Which is something to note because it explains why most of her earlier songs sound like complete ass.
Most people in the Vocaloid producer community on Twitter have mixed feelings about her, since it's often thought she uses personality disorders as an "aesthetic" in her songs.
Besides being nonbinary, she claims to be diagnosed with DID and a handful of other illnesses! And going through her Twitter feed, it's nothing but drama about her mental illnesses and her behavior online, because of course.
Also since I couldn't find it on Twitter I had to get it from the other farms, here's a picture of her alters:
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Don't think don't say it ....

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Yukari Yakumo

>Can beat a Rathian on her own
True & Honest Fan
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I remember there being a MMD community thread that was in Proving Grounds, I wish we could merge some of the OP + replies with the new thread. Seeing kids rip each other apart for copying and pasting 3D model parts has always been a delight to witness even like 8 years later, it will never not be funny.

Anyway if some people here are reading this thread and are wondering "Who the FUCK is GHOST?!", I shall now attempt a very poorly worded summary!
GHOST is a very popular song producer, if not one of the many faces of the western song producer community, whos songs range from child-on-a-keyboard-for-the-first-time to mediocre. Her tool of the trade is GarageBand, until she switched to Logic Pro sometime in 2019. Which is something to note because it explains why most of her earlier songs sound like complete ass.
Most people in the Vocaloid producer community on Twitter have mixed feelings about her, since it's often thought she personality disorders as an "aesthetic" in her songs.
Besides being nonbinary, she claims to be diagnosed with DID and a handful of other illnesses! And going through her Twitter feed, it's nothing but drama about her mental illnesses and her behavior online, because of course.
Also since I couldn't find it on Twitter I had to get it from the other farms, here's a picture of her alters:
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Don't think don't say it ....

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I'm just waiting for someone to make a "HOLY FUCK IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE" meme but with Tearzah instead.
 

peepaa

get it
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Thank god for this thread, hopefully I'll have more interesting things to contribute as time goes on, but for now, Adri mikumiku_ebooks has deleted his main Twitter account
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However, mikumiku_ebooks (his primary source of fame, clout, relevance) was not deleted. A mystery for decades to come, I'm sure.
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I've been accquainted with Adri for a few years, nothing beyond a handful of private messages about art, but I can confirm he's always been a clout-chasing tranny and has never felt the touch of a woman. He's incredibly autistic for BanG Dream! Girls Band Party!, rhythm gacha that released in English in 2018. He started to form his entire personality around one of the characters exclusive to the game (Ran Mitake) and styled his hair, changed up his wardrobe, and picked up a fucking guitar just to be like her. Also wrote copious amounts of fanfic about Ran x Moca, another girl from the same band in the game. Was a Compsci major, I think.
The accusations against this guy are retarded but he didn't contribute anything worthwhile to neo-VOCA fanbase. He was also removed from Studio Élan and Bandori Party staffs (two positions he liked to gloat about quite a bit). Get unpersoned dumbass
 
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Salty Squid

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GHOST is pretty much the vocaloid producer version of Tearzah. Only with some less grooming and relationship drama, but with all the same fetishization of mental illnesses and a love for whining on twitter.
Last time I checked on her twitter i saw some post about how it's her "job" to have mental breakdowns, or something like that. I also remember her flexing with money at some point to own her haters or whatever (which in turn reminded me of PurpleKecleon/GlitchedPuppet/that one artist who's ex fucked dogs and teens, since she tended to do that too at her peak of fame).

Also, on the topic of the cybershoujo/mikumiku_ebooks thing and Adri's obsession with Bandori, I wonder if a thread about idol game communities might be a good idea eventually. I've heard some serious horror stories about how chock full of weirdos the fanbases for these games can be, and I'm not just talking about your average horny weebs here.
 

Erika Furudo

Me an intellectual 🎶
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Does Crypton releasing a pro-BLM statement count as "western liberal infestation"?
I had no idea this happened, and I want to go back to that time. Holy fuck, why does a Japanese company feel the need to chime in, jfc. Ok Vocaloid is fucked.
Also "platforms such as Hatsune Miku". I get Miku isn't real, but referring to Miku as a "platform" bothers me.
 

Xerxes IX

New cat, who this?
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And Adri was someone who was constantly held up as some great moral figure because of…trans Miku?

They're sorry they got caught, not sorry they did it, since the allegations are about things that happened while they were the Great Savior of Trans Rights.

What's with everyone who gets called out for creeping on teenagers whining about their mental illness in their "apologies"? MiniLadd did it too.
 

peepaa

get it
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GHOST is pretty much the vocaloid producer version of Tearzah. Only with some less grooming and relationship drama, but with all the same fetishization of mental illnesses and a love for whining on twitter.
Last time I checked on her twitter i saw some post about how it's her "job" to have mental breakdowns, or something like that. I also remember her flexing with money at some point to own her haters or whatever (which in turn reminded me of PurpleKecleon/GlitchedPuppet/that one artist who's ex fucked dogs and teens, since she tended to do that too at her peak of fame).

Also, on the topic of the cybershoujo/mikumiku_ebooks thing and Adri's obsession with Bandori, I wonder if a thread about idol game communities might be a good idea eventually. I've heard some serious horror stories about how chock full of weirdos the fanbases for these games can be, and I'm not just talking about your average horny weebs here.
A chick I've been in a couple of aggie.ios with has quoted GHOST as her primary inspiration and I feel nothing but pity for her. Shitty artist and especially shitty musician, Appetite of a People-Pleaser being the only song I sort of enjoyed. I take it Creep-P isn't much better because I've listened to like two of their songs and they were both shit.

A lot of the drama I see from idol idol game fanbases is young girls pulling each other's hair over ships and event tiering so I'm not sure if it'd be the most entertaining read... BUUUT a lot of Bandori fans have moved on to Project Sekai, the VOCALOID mobage... discussion about that could probably fit in here.
 

A-Einstein

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A lot of the drama I see from idol idol game fanbases is young girls pulling each other's hair over ships and event tiering so I'm not sure if it'd be the most entertaining read... BUUUT a lot of Bandori fans have moved on to Project Sekai, the VOCALOID mobage... discussion about that could probably fit in here.
Project Sekai has attracted tumblrinas because one character doesn't list their gender, and is gender-neutral. They have claimed the character as non-binary. They also say that using gendered terms, it's "dehumanizing" or whatever that means anymore.
 

Yukari Yakumo

>Can beat a Rathian on her own
True & Honest Fan
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Project Sekai has attracted tumblrinas because one character doesn't list their gender, and is gender-neutral. They have claimed the character as non-binary. They also say that using gendered terms, it's "dehumanizing" or whatever that means anymore.
Who, to be exact?
 

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I had no idea this happened, and I want to go back to that time. Holy fuck, why does a Japanese company feel the need to chime in, jfc. Ok Vocaloid is fucked.
Also "platforms such as Hatsune Miku". I get Miku isn't real, but referring to Miku as a "platform" bothers me.
If it makes you feel better Crypton isn't even creating voicebanks for Vocaloid software anymore, they've gone onto using their own software instead, and the first one to use it is Miku as of November 2020. So I don't really think Vocaloid itself is fucked. I wouldn't drag YAMAHA and every other company providing voicebanks just because of Crypton being retarded. If anything they probably said that just because of wanting some more overseas money, not just the software but merch and all that shit.

Actually speaking of money, why the fuck is the community online so up their ass about pirating the damn thing? These voicebanks get stupid pricey, and people flex how many voicebanks they have. It's extra confusing to see when you hear other western producers crying about how they have no money but flex their $100+ new software to make rinky dinky songs. If you tell people you use Pocaloid or anything else like keygens you're basically e-lynched.

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Who, to be exact?
Just had to look this up myself because I don't care about Project SEKAI but it seems they have a trap character named Mizuki Akiyama.
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Astolfo did it better smh
 
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Erika Furudo

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If it makes you feel better Crypton isn't even creating voicebanks for Vocaloid software anymore, they've gone onto using their own software instead, and the first one to use it is Miku as of November 2020. So I don't really think Vocaloid itself is fucked. I wouldn't drag YAMAHA and every other company providing voicebanks just because of Crypton being retarded. If anything they probably said that just because of wanting some more overseas money, not just the software but merch and all that shit.
I know all the companies saying they support BLM aren't genuine, but I highly doubt people will buy more of their shit based on political BS. Do people even care? I doubt McDonalds sees a surge in profits every time they add a gay flag to their twitter profile.
I have boycotted companies based on political BS, but I never actually purchased anything based on it. I guess it doesn't matter overall, but the BLM stuff just bothered me becuase it was blatant riots and looting being cheered on, pure BS and I'm not even American. (Gloomtube riot streams were comfy as fuck though.)


Back to vocaloid, I can't say it bothers me too much, like I said I only ever really played a few games and liked a few songs. I would like to attend a live concert one day, but thats about all. Honestly I thought vocaloid died out years ago (excluding games and concerts), but expected a slight spike after Coachella and the 2020 Olympics.
 

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