Warhammer+ - Pay $6.00 a month for exclusive fan content, exclusive Youtubers playing tabletop & the Ultrasmurfs movie

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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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If you're a fan of Warhammer you may or may not have heard about the recent announcement for Warhammer+, a no-doubt barebones & shitty streaming service GW are now offering. This campaign has resulted in GW yeeting fan content off of Youtube to give their new ramshackle platform artificial desirability. Many of the people responsible for these fan projects have been absorbed by Warhammer+, so at least GW aren't totally exceptional by chasing off the talent like Nintendo or SEGA would.
However, not everything is roses & gumdrops in the world of Warhammer+, apparently Warhammer+ were not content to make capital on free content, but allegedly they felt the need to meddle with the footage of Astartes & publish the series in much lower quality. Apparently it's only part 5 that was changed, but I just checked to see the video on their site & it looks & sounds no different from how I remember it. Either Youtubers are schizo or I just yeeted my old memory of it.
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Not to mention there's the Sodaz controversy, where he himself had his content yeeted off of Youtube to be absorbed by GW, only for GW to drop the ball & fail to communicate with him with months passing between emails, meanwhile Sodaz faced undue harassment from Warhammer 40K fanboys who were pissed at having W40K content ripped off of Youtube.
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Having seen the content they're offering, I am sorely unimpressed. Their 2D animation looks like amateur shit done by college students, the content for their 3D animation looks like generic anthology shit & I don't want to pay money to see people play with miniatures when I can do that on Youtube for free.

So gents, what do ya think of it so far?
 
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If they made content to put it on, say, Netflix, it might be neat. I won't be shelling out money for what amounts to a glorified Youtube channel.
I am not by any stretch of the word a part of the target audience, that's true, but if this doesn't reel in the normies, this service is DOA.

The trailer contains stuff from Indy artists, so maybe the quality of the finished products will be better, but if it isn't, this is just going to be really fucking weak offerings for 6 bucks that could buy me half a standard Netflix account that I share with someone else.

This service seems like it's aimed towards GW fanboys and whales, which are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you can imagine. They're easily the Apple drones of the tabletop world, with some of these suckers explaining to me that having high prices on GW models is an advantage, cause it means that certain units aren't available to everyone. Granted, this is only a small number of mouthbreathing idiots, but if that's what this is meant to appeal to, expect paywalls behind the paywall. I would not be surprised if you'd have to buy access to new shows or something and I will piss myself laughing if this thing nickels and dimes GW fanboys even more than some (admittedly pretty well-made) plastic crack.
 
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MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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If they made content to put it on, say, Netflix, it might be neat. I won't be shelling out money for what amounts to a glorified Youtube channel.
I am not by any stretch of the word a part of the target audience, that's true, but if this doesn't rake in the normies, this service is DOA.

The trailer contains stuff from Indy artists, so maybe the quality of the finished products will be better, but if it isn't, this is just going to be really fucking weak offerings for 6 bucks that could buy me half a standard Netflix account that I share with someone else.

This service seems like it's aimed towards GW fanboys and whales, which are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you can imagine. They're easily the Apple drones of the tabletop world, with some of these suckers explaining to me that having high prices on GW models is an advantage, cause it means that certain units aren't available to everyone. Granted, this is only a small number of mouthbreathing idiots, but if that's what this is meant to appeal to, expect paywalls behind the paywall. I would not be surprised if you'd have to buy access to new shows or something and I will piss myself laughing if this thing nickels and dimes GW fanboys even more than some (admittedly pretty well-made) plastic crack.
I am a 40K fanboy (no minis, nobody to play with & I don't like painting) & I will not drop a single dime on this pigshit whatsoever.

All I see on offer are Flash movies, E3 tech demos and product shilling.

There is one way they could get my money, & that's if they actually adapted the 40K canon from start to finish. Start at the Age of Strife, Dark Age of Technology, Unification Wars, Great Crusade & Horus Heresy. So that's Millennium 25 to 31. Somewhere in there you can sprinkle in shit like the background on the War on Heaven & the Emperor's origins.

Warhammer 40K is the Marvel Cinematic Universe in book form; neckbeard edition, so not only is there an enormous amount of ground to cover, the source material has already been laid out over the course of 40 some-odd years. You could literally make individual movies of each Primarch the same way Marvel did of each superhero, then go into the main narrative like with the Avengers (this would be the Great Crusade).

This is the exact trajectory they should be taking, but they're not doing that, they're doing bland, poorly animated anthology shit with dejected ecclesiarches finding the Book of Tzeentch & generic space marines shouting "FOR THE EMPEROR" as they run into a volcano to die. Bravo.
 

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This is the exact trajectory they should be taking, but they're not doing that, they're doing bland, poorly animated anthology shit with dejected ecclesiarches finding the Book of Tzeentch & generic space marines shouting "FOR THE EMPEROR" as they run into a volcano to die. Bravo.
Yet no Ciaphas Cain adaptations or new material about the Octarius War
 

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All I see on offer are Flash movies, E3 tech demos and product shilling.
The stuff in the trailer looks neat for fan-movies, but the standard that they are going to be measured by makes all this stuff look terrible.
Some of it looks like it's straight out of a PS2 era vidya cutscene.

so not only is there an enormous amount of ground to cover, the source material has already been laid out over the course of 40 some-odd years.
The same was true for Star Wars...

This is the exact trajectory they should be taking, but they're not doing that, they're doing bland, poorly animated anthology shit with dejected ecclesiarches finding the Book of Tzeentch & generic space marines shouting "FOR THE EMPEROR" as they run into a volcano to die. Bravo.
They are clearly just throwing shit at the wall, hoping something sticks. Well, that and a good measure of "buy random crap to inflate the number of shows".
 

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I naturally assumed that the Octarius War would just keep going on in the background to no notice of anybody, since the whole point of that war was to be a stalemate between da Orks and Tyranids.
I'm pretty sure it has the attention of the Ordo Xenos, and AFAIK even the Eldar are mad that the Imperium basically caused it.

If you are going for compelling humanoid-centric plot, you could easily follow Inquisitors and their entourages as they try and get more intelligence about what's happening on-ground (especially how the two alien factors are adapting to one another), and possibly having to deal with pissed-off Eldar doing much of the same.

If you are going for just shorts of carnage and war porn, I mean come on its Da Orks vs the freaking Tyranids.
 

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I have no doubt they'll get a bunch of people signing up, but I'm less certain about the long term success.
They'll need to keep people subscribed and that means continually outputting new content, and sure they have some reasonably easy to produce content like the battle reports, lore videos and painting tutorials... but all of those already have plenty of free alternatives on youtube (because they're easy to produce a bunch of people are already producing them).
So the real draw will be the their animations, and I don't think they'll have enough content there for you to "Warhammer+ and chill". I can see them doing a Disney+ and releasing new episodes weekly (to stretch out those subscriptions) but even if that works (say they have a handful of new episodes dropping each weeks for different series) will they be able to keep it up over the long term? Are they banking on people dropping their subs after a series have finished and only picking it up again when they start with the next series.

Well I'm interested to see how it turns out in anycase.

Personally I would have partnered with an established streaming service or production company, ensured I retained the lion's share of the rights to the content and and slowly built up a large pool of content (while having it distributed on other services) so that when launching a streaming service there would be enough of a content backlog for subscribers to not only get them interested in subscribing, but also to tide them over between series. But then again I'm a asshole on the internet, so what do I know.
 

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I really should have mentioned earlier:

This service seems like it's aimed towards GW fanboys and whales, which are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you can imagine. They're easily the Apple drones of the tabletop world, with some of these suckers explaining to me that having high prices on GW models is an advantage, cause it means that certain units aren't available to everyone.

This x 6 gorillion. GW fans are some of the most braindead paypigs in the world. They're even bigger exceptional consoomers than Funko Pop collectors because the latter may be content with just a single example of each shitty overpriced plastic model. GW fans will buy more and more to have an 'army' that has the best special rules to win. Their main game Warhammer 40,000 (40K) is like a gay, exceptional version of roshambo where rock wins every time and you need to go on a ramen diet to afford your squads of exclusive, official Rocks™. Or as they're known in Warhammer: Age of Sigmar, 'Rogguks™'
This goes on until Games Workshop shakes up the rules, which they do periodically so that the players have to buy multiple squads, even a whole new roster, of new or different expensive green army men. Warhammer fans, or to be more accurate Games Workshop customers, view this as a good thing. They are utterly brainwashed to keep emptying their wallets. If you put on Roddy Pipers special shades, each GW drone will have, tattooed on their forehead:

KEEP

BUYING


So. Well. Warhammer+ could improve in leaps and bounds over many successful years GWombies will pay for it regardless but this is the only piece of Games Workshop related media that will never be topped:

 
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I still say GW should have sweetened the deal and included access to the audiobook library as part of the subscription.
Given how the audiobooks range from $7.00 to $21.00 on Audible, this would have been enticing for people to buy a subscription and fill out the available services on the app (as awesome as some of the animations are, there's only so few of them and not enough to keep people engaged).
 

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I still say GW should have sweetened the deal and included access to the audiobook library as part of the subscription.
Given how the audiobooks range from $7.00 to $21.00 on Audible, this would have been enticing for people to buy a subscription and fill out the available services on the app (as awesome as some of the animations are, there's only so few of them and not enough to keep people engaged).
I liked Chapter Master Valraks take on the situation.
Mini's and mini support as a business model is very much in danger due to 3d printing.

Black Library is very likely either self sustaining or near enough, with people willing to shell out for the books and audiobooks.

Their entire business model, at some point, is going to be become '40k media company'.
Thats why it's important, not just to have eyes on the product, but people needing to pay to have their eyes on the product.

40k is going mainstream, the mainstream audience doesn't give a shit about models, they are preparing to sell their IP as essentially their primary product.

In that mindset, controlling the first impression of someone who searches for 'warhammer 40k' is very important, and they have very intelligently selected the Astartes animation.
 

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I liked Chapter Master Valraks take on the situation.
Mini's and mini support as a business model is very much in danger due to 3d printing.

Black Library is very likely either self sustaining or near enough, with people willing to shell out for the books and audiobooks.

Their entire business model, at some point, is going to be become '40k media company'.
Thats why it's important, not just to have eyes on the product, but people needing to pay to have their eyes on the product.

40k is going mainstream, the mainstream audience doesn't give a shit about models, they are preparing to sell their IP as essentially their primary product.

In that mindset, controlling the first impression of someone who searches for 'warhammer 40k' is very important, and they have very intelligently selected the Astartes animation.
I get what GW is trying to do, but Warhammer+ is pretty barebones.
 

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Why would they care? Isn't that a strategy that they would use? Seems like a smart idea to me.

That could be entertaining.
In this specific case it's creating a truly gargantuan case of 'whoever wins we lose' since the Tyranids are absorbing incredible amounts of biomass from it (enough to replace what they've lost somehow but it's 40K) and the Orks are literally getting bigger and bigger than ever since they're swarming in from across the galaxy to the krumpiest fight in millenia.
 

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In this specific case it's creating a truly gargantuan case of 'whoever wins we lose' since the Tyranids are absorbing incredible amounts of biomass from it (enough to replace what they've lost somehow but it's 40K) and the Orks are literally getting bigger and bigger than ever since they're swarming in from across the galaxy to the krumpiest fight in millenia.
The Orks winning would be better since they're dumb fucks who can be steered into more Tyranid hordes, but Tyranids winning just means everybody dies.

Pretty sure that if it weren't for the Shadow in the Warp that Khorne would be dumping his gifts on both sides.

The Blood Angels were nearly wiped out over a Tyranid incursion, and all their successor chapters got mulched. To my recollection, only Dante and Mephiston are left, because they were both literally the best & they both nearly succumbed to Black Rage.

This was on some shitty, irradiated desert planet that holds no value whatsoever save for being the place where Sanguinius lived, so there was hardly anything there for the 'nids to upgrade their genes on.
 

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The Orks winning would be better since they're dumb fucks who can be steered into more Tyranid hordes, but Tyranids winning just means everybody dies.
Orks get really big and smart if they've had a good enough fight. The Emperor stomped them during the Great Crusade before they could reach that level but since he wasn't exactly in a position to finish the job they 'remembered' how killy he was and grew to a point where they were about to effortlessly skullfuck the Imperium and the rest of the galaxy a few thousand years later.
 
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