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Tyranids >>>>> Chaos

I don't want another Age of Shitmar thank you.
The Tyrranids are absolutely the worst thing about 40k lore. It's a ridiculously Invincible enemy that only exist when the writers remember them, but the worse thing is that they are just boring. The Orks at least have individual personalities and fun lore.

They also don't make sense to why the chaos gods don't lose their shit over them considering that the Tyrranids becoming dominant is one of the few ways for the gods to be wiped out.

It would have been actually nice if all the Imperium's enemies are forced to ally with each other because of how large, powerful, and overbearing it is.

You want to sell me on how powerful your fascist space empire is? Make it so that every other faction, from the civil (the Tau and the Eldar), to the ravenous (Orks, Necrons, Tyranids), and even the daemonic (Chaos Daemons/Astartes/cultists), are forced to ally with each other against the power of the Imperium. That way, the Imperium actually feels threatening to all these factions, since they would all be extinct if they didn't join forces against the Imperium.

Outside of oppressing its own overworked peons, the Imperium doesn't feel like it's that much of a threat, especially when every enemy they've made in the last 10K years have lasted to this day, and all the Imperium can do is hold them at bay, not eradicate them. That doesn't feel like a threat, that feels like Space Team Rocket-especially with how self-sabotaging they can be.

You can have a situation where the allied races are struggling to survive against the overwhelming assaults of the Imperium, while at the same time, they're all struggling with each other and trying hard not to shoot each other, because they each have their own differences and hatreds towards each other, which is a weakness the Imperium can use against them. That would make for some thrilling storytelling, instead of getting bored as fuck when the Tyranids show up, because we know how this story ends.

Hell, if that was the plot of some new Warhammer Plus show, I'd put in some good money to see that.

Now that you're saying that... I think I heard rumors that there was some access to books involved in this Warhammer+ thing as well. Maybe you need to pay extra (or should I say: you buy a bundle package that costs less than both prices combined).
Maybe subscribers will get early access to Black Library books that will release in the future. Like say, some preview chapters, half a book, or perhaps the whole book, before the book hits store shelves?

They are trying to be the new Marvel, not a bad idea given how much money it makes.

Let's just hope we'll get some decent popcorn cinema out of it, could be worse...
We probably will just get the MCU again, wrapped up in the tinsel of 40K. I wouldn't be surprised if they have all the hero archetypes from the MCU, from the techno-nerd (Adeptus Mechanicus) to the strong guy (Adeptus Astartes) to the girl power (Adeptus Sororitas) and the comedic relief in the form of some Astra Militarum guys who keep surviving things that should have killed them.

Also there better be lewd Adeptus Sororitas yuri smut involved somewhere at some point.
As much as we'd all want that, I don't think we'll see that, given how the MCU-style of movies doesn't leave much, even for ecchi-style softcore porn. You'll be lucky to see one Adeptus Sororita in a sexy pose, let alone lewd carpet-munching smut that belongs in a porn site.

With no direct outside threat, Orks might at least start picking fights amongst themselves to see who's the WAAAAGHest. In the end, you'd have one massively powerful Ork megaboss... damn... I now imagine history repeating and then there's some Ork Megaboss on a throne of skulls with a giant bajonetted assault-rifle sticking out of his chest in a grim parody of the Emperor of Man on his golden throne.
The Emperor of Ork-kind. And he's powered by all the Ork WAAAAAGHs in the galaxy. And I suppose he can rip Guilliman in half with his pinky-finger after ripping apart a Tyranid Hive Tyrant and wearing it as a belt.
 

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As much as we'd all want that, I don't think we'll see that, given how the MCU-style of movies doesn't leave much, even for ecchi-style softcore porn. You'll be lucky to see one Adeptus Sororita in a sexy pose, let alone lewd carpet-munching smut that belongs in a porn site.
We won't get sexy Sororitas though. That would be sexist.
The fat ginger chick, that's playing the sentient hamplanet on STD, has a quite decent chance to play an Adeptus "Healthy at all sizes UWU" Sororitas in modern Hollywood.

In that case, I suggest the name "Adipositas Sororitas".

I'm counting on Japan to supply us with sexy Sororitas cosplays and smut.
 

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To be fair, the Imperium routinely is supposed to exterminate minor human civilisations, rebels and minor aliens. And alliances aren't really easy, because 40k factions are aliens. They aren't just reskinned humans like in Star Trek, or different space wizard sects like in Star Wars.

They are aliens who all have their own culture and thinking and generally a different set of "logic" in a Lovecraftian way that is detrimental to forming all but the most temporary of alliances.

We just don't hear about, or if we do it is a throwaway line, because authors can't be bothered to flesh out a new civilisation just for it to get stomped in a book.
 

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Their shitty Warhammer app costs about $5/month, but access to the app is included with Warhammer+, so if they fix the app and make it work properly, it might be worth it, as you'd basically be getting all the other content plus the free limited edition model for an extra dollar per month.

They need to fix the app though, or all of it is pointless. Warhammer+ isn't worth it for the video content alone. But the app was supposed to have a lot of gaming tools and up-to-date army lists (which haven't exactly materialized yet).

This is going to be a wait and see situation for me. If they fix the Warhammer app, I'll consider it.
I would consider Warhammer+ if it included digital white dwarf magazines (I think it’s just out of date ones?), audiobooks, their app worked better, and if they weren’t being assholes to fans making content. All fixable things IMO. I’ll pass until then. They can fix it, we’ll just have to wait and see.
 
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To be fair, the Imperium routinely is supposed to exterminate minor human civilisations, rebels and minor aliens.
We just don't hear about, or if we do it is a throwaway line, because authors can't be bothered to flesh out a new civilisation just for it to get stomped in a book.
Then why would I feel intimidated by an empire whose victims were too unimportant to even mention? If the authors won't put the work in to introduce us to powerful races that the Imperium blasted back into atoms, then that's them being lazy.

And alliances aren't really easy, because 40k factions are aliens. They aren't just reskinned humans like in Star Trek, or different space wizard sects like in Star Wars.

They are aliens who all have their own culture and thinking and generally a different set of "logic" in a Lovecraftian way that is detrimental to forming all but the most temporary of alliances.
That's why an alliance between these aliens and factions would be so compelling. In any other situation, they'd be at each other's throats, but the risk of getting annihilated by the Imperium is what's keeping them together. They hate each other, but they have to work with each other or risk extinction. Of course, once the Imperium is destroyed or is weakened, they'll turn on each other in a heartbeat, but they're forced to join forces because the Imperium is far more powerful than them.
 

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Then why would I feel intimidated by an empire whose victims were too unimportant to even mention? If the authors won't put the work in to introduce us to powerful races that the Imperium blasted back into atoms, then that's them being lazy.
Tbf, none of the Imperium's enemies are vanquishable besides the Tau.
The Eldar just run away or make themselves convenient enough to have some supporters in the inquisition.
The Dark Eldar are in their own dimension.
The Orks will always pop up no matter what you do with them.
The Necron are new and spawn just about everywhere.
Chaos are in its own dimension.
Tyrranids came from outside the galaxy.

HH has a couple of examples of hilariously powerful aliens being ground to dust, by 40k the only small threats left are the ones too slippery to perform mass genocide against.
 

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Tbf, none of the Imperium's enemies are vanquishable besides the Tau.
The Eldar just run away or make themselves convenient enough to have some supporters in the inquisition.
The Dark Eldar are in their own dimension.
The Orks will always pop up no matter what you do with them.
The Necron are new and spawn just about everywhere.
Chaos are in its own dimension.
Tyrranids came from outside the galaxy.

HH has a couple of examples of hilariously powerful aliens being ground to dust, by 40k the only small threats left are the ones too slippery to perform mass genocide against.
And that's the problem. They will always be there, and any Imperial victory against them is just prolonging the inevitable. If winning is pointless, then why should I be invested in the story? Especially when I KNOW the Imperium is still going to be there, mostly unmolested, because GW needs to sell Space Marine minis. Maybe if the Imperium retained its strength from the Horus Heresy days and, by some discovery, learned how to open dimension gates to other realms to attack enemies from other dimensions. Then they'd be a genuine threat, especially to the Dark Eldar.

That's why the Imperium was more threatening and compelling during the Horus Heresy. They can legit erase powerful factions from the face of the galaxy, they can change the balance of power to the point where any move they make is going to have consequences for other important factions.
 

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And that's the problem. They will always be there, and any Imperial victory against them is just prolonging the inevitable. If winning is pointless, then why should I be invested in the story?
Because you shouldn't care about the Imperium, you should care about the individuals involved in the story, living on a planet that might be a fraction of the Imperium, but for them means their entire world. At least when a good writer is at the helm.

That's why I fucking hate any book plotline that talks about bringing some massive change to the galaxy, since this will always fail and that will be the end. While books like Necropolis are just one of a millions of battles waged and ends in a completely phyric victory.
 

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Because you shouldn't care about the Imperium, you should care about the individuals involved in the story, living on a planet that might be a fraction of the Imperium, but for them means their entire world. At least when a good writer is at the helm.
Their lives are but dust motes in the storm, and them living or dying makes no impact on the greater scheme of things. You can dramatize the life of say, some Imperium citizens living near the edge of Tyranid space, and write this dramatic story of them fighting alongside Space Marines, holding off endless hordes of Tyranids and becoming the heroes they never thought they could be. But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter if they live or die. The setting will remain static, and their victories or deaths would have done little to affect things in the long run. If barely anything changes, then barely anything matters. It's the same disease that infected comic books: status quo is God, so why would people even care? No wonder the great number of 40K fans who buy stuff from GW barely care about the greater lore and only care about painting their little minis and playing the game.

That's why I fucking hate any book plotline that talks about bringing some massive change to the galaxy, since this will always fail and that will be the end. While books like Necropolis are just one of a millions of battles waged and ends in a completely phyric victory.
Other stories have no problems bringing massive changes to their universes. GW is tepid about any permanent change to the 40K universe, because it exists as a mere justification for the setting, to explain what the factions are, and why every faction is shooting at each other in a board game.

I would consider Warhammer+ if it included digital white dwarf magazines (I think it’s just out of date ones?), audiobooks, their app worked better, and if they weren’t being assholes to fans making content. All fixable things IMO. I’ll pass until then. They can fix it, we’ll just have to wait and see.
I can see people signing up to get free minis. Heck, if it were me, I'd offer expensive minis for free every year to subscribers. Like say, a Guilliman mini, or a Saint Celestine mini, or an Asdrubael Vect mini. That would lure fans in rather well.
 
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