Warner Bros. will launch every 2021 movie on HBO Max at the same time they hit theaters - RIP Theatres

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Syaoran Li

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I fucking hate what these lockdowns have done to us all, it ruined the decade right out the gate.

Even its potential to level the playing field in the entertainment culture war has been sabotaged thanks to streaming media becoming so hyper-consolidated and this push from Disney and Warner to stamp out physical media.

Support physical media as much as possible and oppose streaming/sail the high seas. Embrace your inner Boomer and kill that Millennial/Zoomer mentality within you. It's the only way to salvage this shitshow of a decade and even then, it's an astronomical longshot

How can a movie bomb if it's direct-to-streaming? At this point, shit like the MCU will last forever and "Get Woke, Go Broke" will be rendered fully irrelevant instead of only partially irrelevant

Is there any way we can get an organic social media pushback against this shit without it being stamped out right out the gate?
 
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I fucking hate what these lockdowns have done to us all, it ruined the decade right out the gate.

Even its potential to level the playing field in the entertainment culture war has been sabotaged thanks to streaming media becoming so hyper-consolidated and this push from Disney and Warner to stamp out physical media.

Support physical media as much as possible and oppose streaming/sail the high seas. Embrace your inner Boomer and kill that Millennial/Zoomer mentality within you. It's the only way to salvage this shitshow of a decade and even then, it's an astronomical longshot

How can a movie bomb if it's direct-to-streaming? At this point, shit like the MCU will last forever and "Get Woke, Go Broke" will be rendered fully irrelevant instead of only partially irrelevant

Is there any way we can get an organic social media pushback against this shit without it being stamped out right out the gate?
Indie movies aren't sold on physical media anyway, they don't go to the theaters either, it's streaming or downloading if you want to watch them.
This really doesn't affect indie movies, just the big budget stuff.
 

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Indie movies aren't sold on physical media anyway, they don't go to the theaters either, it's streaming or downloading if you want to watch them.
This really doesn't affect indie movies, just the big budget stuff.

Still, how do you get non-woke low-budget stuff on streaming anyway?

All the low-budget independent stuff on streaming tends to be pretentious "indie" arthouse hipster shit anyway. The stuff that's just independent and not specifically "indie" tends to be foreign releases and older pre-Current Year fare that gets a pass due to obscurity or established B-Movie outfits with a grandfather clause situation like Blumhouse, Full Moon, Troma, and The Asylum

Plus, there's the issue of killing the capeshit fad, among other cancers in Hollywood that won't go away without the threat of box office flops

If I could make a low-budget or no-budget horror movie self-published through Amazon, I'd try to push for a physical release first (DVD would be the cheapest and most viable option) as a gimmick to promote it, and then do the streaming release a month or two after the DVD is out
 

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Still, how do you get non-woke low-budget stuff on streaming anyway?

All the low-budget independent stuff on streaming tends to be pretentious "indie" arthouse hipster shit anyway

Plus, there's the issue of killing the capeshit fad, among other cancers in Hollywood that won't go away without the threat of box office flops

If I could make a low-budget or no-budget horror movie self-published through Amazon, I'd try to push for a physical release first (DVD would be the cheapest and most viable option) as a gimmick to promote it, and then do the streaming release a month or two after the DVD is out
I don't know about other services but Amazon Prime will accept literally anything.
I've tried to watch some of their low tier content and it's amazing how low quality some of that shit is.
If you have a movie that has images and sound, they'll take it.
 

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Indie movies aren't sold on physical media anyway, they don't go to the theaters either, it's streaming or downloading if you want to watch them.
This really doesn't affect indie movies, just the big budget stuff.

I find I'm far less concerned about my ability to continue purchasing "indie" movies on physical media a few years in the future compared to big studio films thanks to indie-focused imprints like Criterion and Shout Factory. I am aware that Criterion has expanded to streaming but I don't think they're planning on abandoning physical releases.
 

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Assuming we can believe Reddit...
The release model for each film will be the same as WW84's:

  • Day 1-30: Theatrical (U.S./International) + HBOMAX (U.S.)
  • Day 30-60: Theatrical ONLY (U.S./International)
  • Day 61+: PVOD
WarnerMedia has specified (at the moment) this for 2021 only and claims it's a response to the pandemic.

30 days on HBO Max then it goes away for 30 days then it comes back everywhere. How does this make any sense?
 

Dr J

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How can a movie bomb if it's direct-to-streaming? At this point, shit like the MCU will last forever and "Get Woke, Go Broke" will be rendered fully irrelevant instead of only partially irrelevant
On the contrary, a direct-to-streaming film is more likely to bomb than one that goes to theatres.
RIP moviebob
Good riddance
 
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I haven't been to a theater since 1997. I saw The Lost World at one of the few single screen old school theaters that was left around here. The last one to close was actually a porno theater. :lol:

Multiplex screens are trash compared to the old big screens. That's what I was used to and when a neighbor took us to see one of those Honey I Shrunk The Kids sequels at a multiplex I was astounded how small and cruddy the screen was. I went to the matinee at the single screen theater almost every weekend. It was one of those $2 theaters and you just had to wait about a week to see the new releases.

Maybe those Imax ones are better. I have no idea.

So I have no love for theaters or have any idea how much a ticket costs. I'd rather watch movies at home. But if you like the theater experience it sucks that this is a sign of the times.


I think it was inevitable that things wold go this way. It was only a matter of time. Plus it's way cheaper. I am on a metered connection right now and I'm not paying for any more services. But I do get by. Very few new movies interest me anyway. The most recent ones I saw were 1917 (no one liked it here but me) and The Irishman. I'm more into weird indie films and classic horror at the moment.
 

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The scariest part of this article is that it's basically an admission by Warner Brothers that they know these restrictions will still be in place during the prime May-July movie season.
i think i read in the coronavirus thread here or some other forum that May is probably the worst case scenario, those vaccines we heard about apparently weren't as good as we thought/supply chain issues and costs. Warner is constantly fucking itself trying to get a good quarterly. its why justice league got fucked with first time around. the numbers 1000% don't make sense this time around either. they need 7 milion new subscribers to match if they released their current slate at the theaters, and mind you i'm just factoring in domestic, whats stopping anyone from using those VPNs that are shilled everywhere and getting it for free. for fucks sake capture cards mean it will be extremely easy to watch for free in highest quality day of, and you wont even have to deal with those ads the foreigners have on throughout the whole film either. and mind you apparently 75% of people who got free HBO Max still haven't redeemed that shit yet. essentially Warner bros just had their film division commit suicide.
How can a movie bomb if it's direct-to-streaming? At this point, shit like the MCU will last forever and "Get Woke, Go Broke" will be rendered fully irrelevant instead of only partially irrelevant
they know how many bother to watch/sign up. If not enough people sign up to watch $200 million superhero film, then they just never make a sequel. look at netflix. everyone is angry because their budgets are low and the shows rarely get more than 3 seasons. but its like that because the stats show its the best way to do streaming. I remember reading that essentially every movie bombs on netflix, but as long as it keeps people interested they keep making them.
Netflix basically is like 90s cable. tv shows with a handle of episodes and 3 seasons, with shitty original movies. but it keeps the lights on.

Warner bros essentially just admitted its getting out of the movie business to go for cheaper mediums. and they're using their last big budget movies to try it out. its a great idea because coronavirus basically has shut down the pipeline for over 2 years, its not like we're going to get high quality product until 2022 at this point anyways,
 

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Assuming we can believe Reddit...


30 days on HBO Max then it goes away for 30 days then it comes back everywhere. How does this make any sense?

The only way I can see this making sense is if they recognize that the theatrical run gains in the US were done after 30 days, and go about getting foreign money instead. For example, Tenet got released in Indian theatres yesterday, and they're planning to put it on streaming and physical copy on Dec. 15.


Although, I don't know if that's a viable idea because of all those pirates tossing around free copies of the HD version of the movie even if it was released in theatres only. That's money lost.

How can a movie bomb if it's direct-to-streaming?

I'm pretty sure Mulan bombed. There's no way that film made a profit. I refuse to believe this film was successful in some form.

I don't know about other services but Amazon Prime will accept literally anything.
I've tried to watch some of their low tier content and it's amazing how low quality some of that shit is.
If you have a movie that has images and sound, they'll take it.

They'll except anything, including this ratched stuff.


i think i read in the coronavirus thread here or some other forum that May is probably the worst case scenario, those vaccines we heard about apparently weren't as good as we thought/supply chain issues and costs. Warner is constantly fucking itself trying to get a good quarterly. its why justice league got fucked with first time around. the numbers 1000% don't make sense this time around either. they need 7 milion new subscribers to match if they released their current slate at the theaters, and mind you i'm just factoring in domestic, whats stopping anyone from using those VPNs that are shilled everywhere and getting it for free. for fucks sake capture cards mean it will be extremely easy to watch for free in highest quality day of, and you wont even have to deal with those ads the foreigners have on throughout the whole film either. and mind you apparently 75% of people who got free HBO Max still haven't redeemed that shit yet. essentially Warner bros just had their film division commit suicide.

Even if a vaccine exists, 42% of Americans are hesitant to take a vaccine, and for good reason.

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they know how many bother to watch/sign up. If not enough people sign up to watch $200 million superhero film, then they just never make a sequel. look at netflix. everyone is angry because their budgets are low and the shows rarely get more than 3 seasons. but its like that because the stats show its the best way to do streaming. I remember reading that essentially every movie bombs on netflix, but as long as it keeps people interested they keep making them.
Netflix basically is like 90s cable. tv shows with a handle of episodes and 3 seasons, with shitty original movies. but it keeps the lights on.
Netflix-produced shows do have shit quality, especially nowadays. I watched Pine Gap and it was so fucking boring I couldn't continue, and it was only six episodes.
Warner bros essentially just admitted its getting out of the movie business to go for cheaper mediums. and they're using their last big budget movies to try it out. its a great idea because coronavirus basically has shut down the pipeline for over 2 years, its not like we're going to get high quality product until 2022 at this point anyways,
I don't have the optimism you have. I think the after-effects of this pandemic would last beyond 2022.
 

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I'm pretty sure Mulan bombed. There's no way that film made a profit. I refuse to believe this film was successful in some form.
According to clickbait articles it "broke tons of records" and was "an instant sucess" but I don't think disney ever gave a solid number of how much money it earned, compared to how Avengers Endgame 2.7 billion was shilled everywhere, makes me think Mulan was either a bomb or a dissapointment (meaning it did break even but it was much lower than what they expected)
 

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The only way I can see this making sense is if they recognize that the theatrical run gains in the US were done after 30 days, and go about getting foreign money instead. For example, Tenet got released in Indian theatres yesterday, and they're planning to put it on streaming and physical copy on Dec. 15.


Although, I don't know if that's a viable idea because of all those pirates tossing around free copies of the HD version of the movie even if it was released in theatres only. That's money lost.
That's insane. I guarantee there's pirates in India just selling cam copies on the street. I heard that in China, Hollywood had a policy of countering piracy by making their movies available asap for $1.
Old school directors are like David Lynch are probably having anyurisms about people watching their films on smaller and smaller screents.

Counter point:


As much as I love Lynch, I have to side with Jodorowsky on this.
 
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30 days on HBO Max then it goes away for 30 days then it comes back everywhere. How does this make any sense?
How does it not make sense? They want you to subscribe to HBO+, and by making the movies time-limited, they're ensuring that you stay subscribed instead of waiting, letting movies build up, and then watching them all in one month.
 
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