What are your thoughts? I just wanted a fair and open discussion on the matter.
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You know, the more that I learn about Marx; the more entertaining communism becomes.
And unfortunately, the Jewish Question is about renouncing your religion as opposed to beating up the Happy Merchant.
And unfortunately, the Jewish Question is about renouncing your religion as opposed to beating up the Happy Merchant.
just another controlled limited hangout
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No he was wrong about everything
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How do modern day Marxists cope with quotes like "What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly god? Money."
They seem to pretend it doesn’t exist or they side step entirely. I think it’s a great opportunity for lulz.
Coincidentally, he coined a term for social outcasts, but the next generation deliberately refused to use it because the Russians kind of needed everyone they could find. But then the purges came along, so it's essentially a moot point.
Maxxicus Callahan
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No he was wrong about the Jews. You should hear what he had to say about Germany pushing out the inferior Slavs out of Moscow. Yup he also thought Slavs were inferior. It’s important the legacy Marx left behind with his critique of capitalism but he also reflected a lot of the prevailing attitudes of his time one of which was anti-semitism and jingoism.
I made a long list of some of Marx’s more infamous quotes
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I made a long list of some of Marx’s more infamous quotes
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https://kiwifarms.net/threads/vaush-vaushv-vaushvidya-irishladdie-ian-kochinski.64444/post-8978498
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I dunno man that sounds kind of based.
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"Let us consider the actual, worldly Jew – not the Sabbath Jew, as Bauer does, but the everyday Jew. Let us not look for the secret of the Jew in his religion, but let us look for the secret of his religion in the real Jew." What is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical need, self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering "
To properly grasp Marx's position on Jews, we need to look at the relationship between Karl Marx and Bruno Bauer. Unfortunately, you're going to need institutional access to read the entire essay for free.
This essay offers a careful and critical commentary on the deep, complex and conflictual relation between Karl Marx and Bruno Bauer – at personal, professional and political levels. I do so with a particular interest in religion, since Bauer was one of the towering biblical scholars in the Ger-many of his time (mid-nineteenth century). Bauer was Marx’s one-time teacher, friend and men-tor who taught him a course on the book of Isaiah at the Friedrich Wilhelm University in Berlin in 1839. Not many years later, Bauer becomes a target for Marx’s polemic in The Holy Family and The German Ideology, as well as On the Jewish Question. Why the intense polemic? I argue that the problem with Bauer – for Marx – was that he developed a reasonably radical political posi-tion – his later works dealt extensively with politics – through his work as a biblical critic. Marx sought to close this path off entirely, although he does admit in a telling phrase that Bauer fol-lows the ‘detour of theology’. Yet, despite all the polemic, Bauer and Marx kept in touch, the former visiting Marx in London many years later and the latter keeping up a lively interest in Bauer’s movements and writings.KeywordsKarl Marx, Bruno Bauer, Isaiah, On the Jewish Question, The Holy Family, The German IdeologyBauer the theologian takes it as a matter of course that Criticism had to indulge endlessly in speculative theology for he, ‘Criticism’, is indeed a theologian ex professo.1This essay offers a careful and critical commentary on the deep, complex and conflictual relation between Karl Marx and Bruno Bauer. I do so with a par-ticular interest in religion, since Bauer was one of the towering biblical schol-ars in the Germany of his time (mid-nineteenth century). Three motives drive 1 Karl Marx and Frederick Engels, “The Holy Family, or Critique of Critical Criticism,” in Marx and Engels Collected Works, Vol. 4 (Moscow: Progress Publishers, 1975 [1845]), 102; Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, “Die heilige Familie oder Kritik der kritischen Kritik,” in Marx Engels Werke, Vol. 2 (Berlin: Dietz, 1974 [1845]), 108–9.
I have deliberately avoided studying any of this in depth, deferring to friends who are scholars on the subject in discussions about socialism vs capitalism and authoritarianism oligarchism vs egalitarian democracy on points pertaining to Marx's writings. I'll run this past her and see what she says. Reading this, my feeling is that the secular, worldly Jew Marx is defining is the classical backsliding Jew that has always been the object of contempt since the time of the Babylonian conquest that has emerged today as the supremacist Zionist Jew of today. The "Sabbath Jew" does not lie, cheat, steal, kill or fuck their neighbor's wife.
This "Judaism" Marx describes is diametrically opposed to the core principles of the Hebrew faith, the most important one being to love each other as we would want to be treated ourselves. In this Zionist Judaism, might makes right and that is totally wrong. It is not by might, but by the righteous good works of the Israelites that they were "chosen" to lead the gentiles. Not to enslave them to your money and certainly not to rape, pillage and plunder the resources of our living world just to satisfy your lust for material wealth.
Don't you have your own subforum to shit in?
Maxxicus Callahan
kiwifarms.net
He sounds like a Nazbol ahead of his time maybe that’s part of the reason how this became an actual thing
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I can confirm this since i took a required sociology class in college
is this where i post edgy shit about heebs
You can say a ton about Marx, but his ideas sure have killed a lot of commies.
