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All the evidence seems to be that gays are born that way and conversion therapy is a massive scam.
It depends. There are definitely some people who are 100% flaming from the minute they exit the womb, but I think there's a substantial number of bisexuals among them (i.e. people who are less than 100% in either direction) where it makes sense to talk about choosing your sexuality.
 

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It depends. There are definitely some people who are 100% flaming from the minute they exit the womb, but I think there's a substantial number of bisexuals among them (i.e. people who are less than 100% in either direction) where it makes sense to talk about choosing your sexuality.
It's not necessarily a question of whether people are hashtag :gay:Born This Way™ or not. I'm not convinced there's evidence for a 'gay gene' but I'm still very skeptical that conversion therapy would ever work. Stuff like sexuality is so deeply unconscious that it would take years of real psychodynamic therapy with an excellent therapist-client relationship to even get close to touching it in a significant way. And, even once your awareness of your unconscious is such that you can touch it, it's not an on-off switch that you can flick from 'gay' to 'straight'. Some patterns of attraction may change but changing sexual orientation is unrealistic for all but the tiniest minority of people IMO & IME.
 

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It's not necessarily a question of whether people are hashtag :gay:Born This Way™ or not. I'm not convinced there's evidence for a 'gay gene' but I'm still very skeptical that conversion therapy would ever work. Stuff like sexuality is so deeply unconscious that it would take years of real psychodynamic therapy with an excellent therapist-client relationship to even get close to touching it in a significant way. And, even once your awareness of your unconscious is such that you can touch it, it's not an on-off switch that you can flick from 'gay' to 'straight'. Some patterns of attraction may change but changing sexual orientation is unrealistic for all but the tiniest minority of people IMO & IME.
What the fuck is the point, anyway? The problem is the shitty "noisy, annoying faggot" behavior and that's not even intrinsic to being gay, it's just more narcissism and immaturity being enabled by assholes and retards. I think even Oscar Wilde would fucking cringe at some of this shit.
 

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I know you can detroon the trooners with antipsychotics in most cases, proving once more it is a mental disease

However science cant cure gayness because nobody is researching how to do it else the lgbt shocktroops will kick their shit

Theres a whole book on how the gay movement basically took over psychiatry by force during the 70's because psychs wouldnt stop trying to research how to degay the gays, and that was bad for the narrative

Anyway, have you even been with a woman OP?
 

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There are some cases of the homosexual men falling in love with women. That shows that there is some plasticity in regards to sexual/romantic attraction. Women are known to be more sexual fluid in that regard. A good recent example is Michael Bararo who left his husband for his female co-worker. The couple recently had a child. In the Philippines, it's not uncommon for gay men to have loving, romantic relationships with women.


What the fuck is the point, anyway? The problem is the shitty "noisy, annoying faggot" behavior and that's not even intrinsic to being gay, it's just more narcissism and immaturity being enabled by assholes and retards. I think even Oscar Wilde would fucking cringe at some of this shit.

The "noise, annoying faggot" behavior seems to be cross-cultural and trans-historical. Homosexuality has always been linked to gender non-conformity in some way. But everyone's personality has become more annoying due television and the internet.


It's not necessarily a question of whether people are hashtag :gay:Born This Way™ or not. I'm not convinced there's evidence for a 'gay gene' but I'm still very skeptical that conversion therapy would ever work. Stuff like sexuality is so deeply unconscious that it would take years of real psychodynamic therapy with an excellent therapist-client relationship to even get close to touching it in a significant way. And, even once your awareness of your unconscious is such that you can touch it, it's not an on-off switch that you can flick from 'gay' to 'straight'. Some patterns of attraction may change but changing sexual orientation is unrealistic for all but the tiniest minority of people IMO & IME.

Part of me hate conversion therapy because it relies on gender roles and gender stereotyping. That's part of the reason, I don't like trans people. They rely on gender roles as the basis of their sex/gender identity.
 

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There are some cases of the homosexual men falling in love with women. That shows that there is some plasticity in regards to sexual/romantic attraction. Women are known to be more sexual fluid in that regard. A good recent example is Michael Bararo who left his husband for his female co-worker. The couple recently had a child. In the Philippines, it's not uncommon for gay men to have loving, romantic relationships with women.
Love is not the same thing as sexual attraction or orientation. Many gay men love women in many different ways; I don't doubt that some of them can get sexually involved. Likewise there are guys who used to consider themselves straight and fuck women, and now exclusively fuck men. Gay men usually are dealing with a huge Mother complex - it's unsurprising that certain types of women will be very attractive to them (hence the archetypal gay best friend companion for a women) and they will want to love, hold, etc them. But they still want to fuck men, even if a very small minority can get it up for 'their girl'. It's not the same thing as heterosexual orientation towards wanting to fuck women.
 

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Love is not the same thing as sexual attraction or orientation. Many gay men love women in many different ways; I don't doubt that some of them can get sexually involved. Likewise there are guys who used to consider themselves straight and fuck women, and now exclusively fuck men. Gay men usually are dealing with a huge Mother complex - it's unsurprising that certain types of women will be very attractive to them (hence the archetypal gay best friend companion for a women) and they will want to love, hold, etc them. But they still want to fuck men, even if a very small minority can get it up for 'their girl'. It's not the same thing as heterosexual orientation towards wanting to fuck women.

Maybe, but that's wrong with that? To be honest, the majority of heterosexual men have let themsevles go,. There is nothing really appealing about being a heterosexual man.
 

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What the fuck happened to this site? Where the fuck did you fundies come from?

Dick is pretty great, OP. Embrace it. There's nothing wrong with pounding or taking it up the ass. At least you'll get more action than the other spergs in this thread.
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All the evidence seems to be that gays are born that way and conversion therapy is a massive scam.
not true, but even if it were true, if conversion therapy included electric chair torture or having you bitten with black widows and nearly dying before they give you the antedote I'm thinking a lot more people won't be willing to be gay. If the torture included a single lash for every sexual partner the faggot had most would receive upwards of 500 and die, and also not be gay and not be inclined to be gay.
 

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not true, but even if it were true, if conversion therapy included electric chair torture or having you bitten with black widows and nearly dying before they give you the antedote I'm thinking a lot more people won't be willing to be gay. If the torture included a single lash for every sexual partner the faggot had most would receive upwards of 500 and die, and also not be gay and not be inclined to be gay.
No, that wouldn't work. You'd get them to not have sex with the same gender, you'd get them to change their behavior, but you can't fix their sexuality any more than you can fix their pupil dilation rate.
 

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Probably better to just accept it, but if you're serious about how you don't want to be then it would be easier to be asexual rather than hetero.

There's probably diets that would help suppress the libido, alongside not fapping. Do this long enough and you'll probably stop feeling the need. Find a nice girl that doesn't like sex but wants companionship, and if you want kids get some viagra, close your eyes and think of The Rock.
 

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Even if it is not genetic and it is because of social influences, your brain has become hardwired. In general, our early years are extremely important for our development. Trying to change orientation is like trying to unlearn how to talk. Unfortunately, due to the massive leftist dominance of most psychological and psychiatric institutions, there is not any serious research on trying to cure or reduce homosexual urges.
 
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