Weapons/Military Sperging Safe Zone(tm) -

[DeagleDad420]

Welcome to Autistwictz, gentlemen. This internment camp/megathread is for any/all gun/sword/military/weapon sperging that is normally not prohibited on other parts of the board. All joking aside I do realize that there are some legitimately hilarious shit Jace says related to weapons and I don't want to prohibit that entirely, but there are two very good reasons for keeping it contained:

• People who aren't weapon buffs have no fucking idea what you are talking about and it creates this weird in-clique shit
• It derails threads like you can't imagine

In this thread, please keep discussion centered around the Jace or Tyce, their exploits, their videos, etc. Don't turn this into a /k/ lite "weapons general" thread or I will be forced to lock it. Keep that shit in Discussion.

With that being said, here's some starter shit to get the ball rolling
-Tyce is doing sword reviews
-Tyce is doing sword reviews.
-Did I mention Tyce is doing sword reviews?

Have fun.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

(laughs) Thank you DD420.

 

[BT 075]

I want Tyce to review my gunshow.

 

[get-tar hero]

I want Tyce to review my gunshow.

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All I can see is your very erect nipples.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

I can't wait to see Tyce take a whack at a watermelon with a cheap stainless steel wall hanger sword and it breaks, with Jace saying it's gay and unrealistic and that the sword is gay Chinese made crap. I think that will be a running theme in their reviews.

Imagine a lower production value and more spergy variant of this:

I don't know much about swords, but I do know a little about pocket knives. I hope they branch out because I would love to see the dynamic duo buy some cheap knives from Walmart and try to baton a log with it.

 

[get-tar hero]

I can't wait to see Tyce take a whack at a watermelon with a cheap stainless steel wall hanger sword and it breaks, with Jace saying it's gay and unrealistic and that the sword is gay Chinese made crap. I think that will be a running theme in their reviews.

Imagine a lower production value and more spergy variant of this:

I don't know much about swords, but I do know a little about pocket knives. I hope they branch out because I would love to see the dynamic duo buy some cheap knives from Walmart and try to baton a log with it.

I think there's a pretty good chance one or both of them is going to be injured when one of the shitty swords they buy breaks or that they'll get really high and try to play with them. Given that Jace has a lazy eye and Tyce has the reflexes of someone who huffs their own shit I see no possible way this ends without somebody going to the hospital.

 

[Grand Number of Pounds]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, I was wondering who would get cut first.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

I said this in chat last night or so, but it bears repeating. Note this has almost gotten me banned/flamed away from a few 'smithing forums.

You can talk about pattern-welding techniques, blade geometry, heat-treatment procedure, and exotic alloys all you like. These improvements are strictly for the convenience of the wielder of the blade.

The simple fact is that any goodly length of sharpened ferrous metal will split a human skull enough to kill you. This is why machetes are popular weapons of war in poorer countries. The usual counter-argument is something along the lines of "Yeah, but it'd only do it once before you have to re-work/resharpen the edge! It's a crap blade!". Bullshit. That's good enough. Once is all it takes to kill you.

This may sound kinda weird- if not hypocritical- coming from a fine blade aficionado like myself, but I started as a Blacksmith, and at heart we're realists.

 

[c-no]

I want Tyce to review my gunshow.

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He'd probably call it gay and unrealistic (if simply because he could be jealous).

I think there's a pretty good chance one or both of them is going to be injured when one of the shitty swords they buy breaks or that they'll get really high and try to play with them. Given that Jace has a lazy eye and Tyce has the reflexes of someone who huffs their own shit I see no possible way this ends without somebody going to the hospital.

Not only that, they could damage something else aside from themselves. If they were to do such a thing at Jace's home, his mother wouldn't be pleased not only when someone gets hurt but also when something gets destroyed.

 

[waffle]

I said this in chat last night or so, but it bears repeating. Note this has almost gotten me banned/flamed away from a few 'smithing forums.

You can talk about pattern-welding techniques, blade geometry, heat-treatment procedure, and exotic alloys all you like. These improvements are strictly for the convenience of the wielder of the blade.

The simple fact is that any goodly length of sharpened ferrous \M/ETAL will split a human skull enough to kill you. This is why machetes are popular weapons of war in poorer countries. The usual counter-argument is something along the lines of "Yeah, but it'd only do it once before you have to re-work/resharpen the edge! It's a crap blade!". Bullshit. That's good enough. Once is all it takes to kill you.

This may sound kinda weird- if not hypocritical- coming from a fine blade aficionado like myself, but I started as a Blacksmith, and at heart we're realists.

I think that's a slight oversimplification, but only in that durability does matter to the end user if he wants to behead more than one dude. At some point though any blade is going to need to be sharpened/reground after serious mahem.

Thant being said, those wall hangers sure are sharp enough for the deagle nation crew to get themselves or others hurt bad.

 

[The Knife's Husbando]

I just watched the Tyce review.

Twitch... twitch...

I'll just leave this here. It's twenty three minutes, but it's well worth your time. In case you were wondering, this is how it's done right.

 

[The Dude]

Jace thinks the P90 is 9mm and thinks Designated Marksman Rifles aren't a real thing. Just...just let that sink in.

 

[c-no]

Jace thinks the P90 is 9mm and thinks Designated Marksman Rifles aren't a real thing. Just...just let that sink in.

Letting that sink in along with a quick Wikipedia search, one would think Jace would at least do a quick google search, even if it was just looking at an image.

 

[The Dude]

Letting that sink in along with a quick Wikipedia search, one would think Jace would at least do a quick google search, even if it was just looking at an image.

I have difficulty believing anyone is this insufferably stupid. But, then again, I've actually had conversations with him. You have no idea how hard it is to bite my tongue with him.

 

[c-no]

I have difficulty believing anyone is this insufferably stupid. But, then again, I've actually had conversations with him. You have no idea how hard it is to bite my tongue with him.

No need to mention that since this is a guy who thinks airsoft guns are better than actual guns.

 

[The Dude]

No need to mention that since this is a guy who thinks airsoft guns are better than actual guns.

Yeah, Jace makes me facepalm harder than any other cow out there. Sometimes I think he's being intentionally stupid, but other times I just realize he's just really mentally deficient.

 

[Zerstorer]

He also decides that black powder is good for increasing the velocity of shot (shotgun pellets). If you want something to go at the velocity that he's suggesting, you're going to need a bunch of black powder, and a gun that's bigger than your run of the mill Mossberg or Remington. I'm not going to sperg on how terrible black powder is for modern combat, but suffice it to say that black powder leaves a big 'ol thick cloud of smoke after firing that can either give away your position, or obscure your aim for enough time to get you killed.

Also, on his statement of turning the front of a truck and the subsequent passenger inside into "swiss-cheese" made me laugh. To get a spread from shot to be "swiss-cheesed", one would have to be at considerable distance. The shot pellets would lose a lot of kinetic energy, and would probably have trouble punching through the front of a vehicle. Much less a passenger after going through said vehicle.

Jace is dumb. We know this, but I couldn't resist the sperg.

 

[Duke Nukem]

I'm surprised I didn't make a post yet in this thread, considering some things, but I kind of want to address a recent deal with Jace's post regarding exotic ammo.

http://parkourdude91.tumblr.com/post/103042967313/i-wanted-to-ask-as-one-tactical-suburban-marine

Yes I have custom-reloaded many of my own guns before using reloading benches and equipment on US Army bases, during my deployment with the 140th division in Iraq. In particular, I meddled around with some shotty ammo and ended up adding an FMJ customization. What this means, in laymans terms to a civillian, is that the shotgun bullets pierced armor like never before. On top of that their bullet velocity was increased even further by packing it with more black powder than ever before. You should have seen me tear through those bastards. One shot went clean through the front of a terrorist truck and into the passenger seat - the guy looked like swiss cheese after. Good times.

Spoiler: WARNING! LONG POST AHEAD

First off, he claims to be a Marine, but on an Army base. And Army bases apparently have reloading benches a la Fallout: New Vegas. I'm just a civilian, so don't quote me on this, but I seriously doubt that military bases have reloading benches scattered around where any old grunt can create any kind of ammo he wants.

Second off, I don't think there's such a thing as FMJ ammo for shotguns. OK, well, sort of. Copper projectiles for 12 gauge do exist, but the closest thing to an FMJ shotgun slug is the Federal Deep Penetrator. There are also Sabot Slugs in existence that have a lead/copper composition and whatnot, but those are designed for rifled shotgun barrels, which are kind of a specialty item.

And last but not least, I do not believe modern shotgun ammunition uses black powder (or at least they shouldn't). Yes, black powder shotguns do exist, but they cannot use modern ammunition due to the higher pressures produced by said shells.

This is what a black powder shotgun looks like. It's got gay ass tree grips and probably weaker than a faggot Mosin with its weak ass .22 ammo.

Also, packing more powder than your recommended max load is probably not a good idea, for obvious reasons.

TL;DR, L O FUCKING L

 

[BALLZ-BROKEN]

He also decides that black powder is good for increasing the velocity of shot (shotgun pellets). If you want something to go at the velocity that he's suggesting, you're going to need a bunch of black powder, and a gun that's bigger than your run of the mill Mossberg or Remington. I'm not going to sperg on how terrible black powder is for modern combat, but suffice it to say that black powder leaves a big 'ol thick cloud of smoke after firing that can either give away your position, or obscure your aim for enough time to get you killed.

Also, on his statement of turning the front of a truck and the subsequent passenger inside into "swiss-cheese" made me laugh. To get a spread from shot to be "swiss-cheesed", one would have to be at considerable distance. The shot pellets would lose a lot of kinetic energy, and would probably have trouble punching through the front of a vehicle. Much less a passenger after going through said vehicle.

Jace is dumb. We know this, but I couldn't resist the sperg.

Well. maybe Jace had a punt gun.

 

[The Dude]

Him sperging about making custom FMJ shotgun rounds is pretty cringeworthy. For one thing him treating full metal jacket bullets like they're some kind of über-armor defeating specialty round is idiotic. All military ammunition, aside from buckshot and slugs for shotguns, legally have to be full metal jacket as outlined by either the Geneva or Hague conventions. At the time hollow point and expanding bullets were considered inhumane and cruel when actually it's quite the opposite.

Also all modern ammunition uses smokeless powder which is cleaner burning and generates more terminal energy than black powder.

Finally the military does NOT reload their own ammunition for several reasons. Reloaded ammunition and sometimes be loaded wrong causing poor ballistic performance, malfunctions with the weapon or catastrophic failures like exploding and destroying the weapon. These are all liabilities that the military cannot afford therefor they have contracts with several ammunition manufacturers to supply them with ammunition on top of their surplus stockpiles.

Finally, shotgun ammunition will not defeat modern military body armor. The military uses armor plates designed to stop rounds up to 7.62x54mm the round used by the SVD Dragunov sniper rifle and PKM general purpose machine gun. Hell, most police issue soft body armor will stop buckshot and slugs. Let alone penetrating an engine block front to back and having the energy to punch through the vehicle's firewall and kill the occupant.

Tl;dr, Jace gets all his ideas about weapons from vidya and knows fuck all about real life weapons.