Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

Are you saying that Vic basically lied on stream? In that he really didn't say what he really thinks?

No, and yes, respectively. I think he is saying what he *thinks* he should say to keep up appearances and his brand. I think the motivation is part fear and part good intentions. It is like he is taking the whole 'turn the other cheek' to a pacifistic extreme and being a doormat.

I get it: he can't (and shouldn't!) say everything that comes to his mind, but he needs to show some more steel to get these bullies to stop.

I personally think he is afraid of losing what support he has from the (mostly) pure and wholesome fanbase he has, and because he has lost so much, it is THAT much more dependent on it. It is unhealthy, and he is keeping his true emotions and feelings inside to not rock the boat. Just look at all the hate that the Cachunklehead person got over having Ron on the show. He has rabid fans that think he walks on water and farts cotton candy.

This is the same thing abused people do: rationlise the situation to not lose what crumb of happiness they have.

 

[OneHandClapping]

No, and yes, respectively. I think he is saying what he *thinks* he should say to keep up appearances and his brand. I think the motivation is part fear and part good intentions. It is like he is taking the whole 'turn the other cheek' to a pacifistic extreme and being a doormat.

I get it: he can't (and shouldn't!) say everything that comes to his mind, but he needs to show some more steel to get these bullies to stop.

I personally think he is afraid of losing what support he has from the (mostly) pure and wholesome fanbase he has, and because he has lost so much, it is THAT much more dependent on it. It is unhealthy, and he is keeping his true emotions and feelings inside to not rock the boat. Just look at all the hate that the Cachunklehead person got over having Ron on the show. He has rabid fans that think he walks on water and farts cotton candy.

This is the same thing abused people do: rationlise the situation to not lose what crumb of happiness they have.

That squares with that I think of him. He has extreme loneliness issues, I think, starting when his dad ditched him and his mom, and he had to turn to a TV character for a father figure. As a man in his late fifties and no kids or spouse, he probably thinks of all the fans as one big extended family. That, in turn gives credence to Nick's theory: the defendants wanted him literally dead, or, at the very least, didn't care that he could end up literally dead. Imagine having a close, warm relationship with your family. Then, one day, your family hates you and wants nothing to do with you. That would fuck you up. The defendants didn't do fairly harmless defamation like calling him a anti-semite, or an asshole, or a diva, or whatever. People can look past that and still be fans. But accusing him of sexual assault and improper contact with underage girls? Pedos and rapists get the gas, and the clique were hoping the fans would take those accusations at face value and collectively turn their back on him.

Vic's not entirely blameless for the loneliness thing, either. I joked about it before, but he can't seem to hold on to a girl for long. I hope this Rachel chick is different, but knowing his track record, there's a good chance it won't last.

 

[PorkeyDuck]

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[B4st4rdF1r3L0rd0z41]

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Looks like I pissed her off. Isn't it like late in Finland? GO TO SLEEP!

 

[Himedall All-seeing Waifu]

That squares with that I think of him. He has extreme loneliness issues, I think, starting when his dad ditched him and his mom, and he had to turn to a TV character for a father figure. As a man in his late fifties and no kids or spouse, he probably thinks of all the fans as one big extended family. That, in turn gives credence to Nick's theory: the defendants wanted him literally dead, or, at the very least, didn't care that he could end up literally dead. Imagine having a close, warm relationship with your family. Then, one day, your family hates you and wants nothing to do with you. That would fuck you up. The defendants didn't do fairly harmless defamation like calling him a anti-semite, or an asshole, or a diva, or whatever. People can look past that and still be fans. But accusing him of sexual assault and improper contact with underage girls? Pedos and rapists get the gas, and the clique were hoping the fans would take those accusations at face value and collectively turn their back on him.

Vic's not entirely blameless for the loneliness thing, either. I joked about it before, but he can't seem to hold on to a girl for long. I hope this Rachel chick is different, but knowing his track record, there's a good chance it won't last.

Vic is human at the end of the day, and a stubborn old codger. I know some people want to push him to do more, but he does not want to.

Hope it works out for him, but I have seen people get too invested in [insert relationship/job/obsession here] and crumble when they lose it. I will settle for him staying above ground and NOT suck starting a shotgun while living a mediocre life.

In the end though, it is his life and his choice. I *know* he could do more and better, but if he can ride this out for the last few decades he has left, and is content to do so, that is his prerogative.

 

[AnOminous]

I get it: he can't (and shouldn't!) say everything that comes to his mind, but he needs to show some more steel to get these bullies to stop.

Anyone have the actual clip where he allegedly says he forgave them? I wasn't listening every single second, but I thought he said he would forgive them, if they actually apologized, not that he already forgave them for shit they're still doing.

My impression is he's still pretty pissed and isn't backing down.

 

[giraffes on coffee]

He's said in past streams because of his beliefs and also his own health he's had to let go of the anger. Can't remember if he said forgive but that is a Christian staple to forgive those that have wronged you or your Heavenly Father won't forgive you.

Also who the fuck cares if he's had work done? Still looks better than any one of you.

One comment was of interest. Did Vic break mediation rules by talking about it?

 

[SupahAuspregatist]

That's just some fat retard cunt who has taken over to sperg about Quinton Flynn and gets in retarded sperg outs with ISWV


Try putting it in [sspoiler] [/spoiler] when you're on your phone? And try to avoid double posting and just edit your post.

Archived that shit for ya bruh

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The eyes of mental disorder.
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I'm sure her son on either died from her "accidentally" sitting on him or ignoring him for twitter. "If you think I'm gonna go to a corner and cry about it, you're wrong." That's literally all you've been doing. She's definitely an open book but she is in denial of it all like most of these fat cunt whales.

 

[B4st4rdF1r3L0rd0z41]

I'm sure her son on either died from her "accidentally" sitting on him or ignoring him for twitter. "If you think I'm gonna go to a corner and cry about it, you're wrong." That's literally all you've been doing. She's definitely an open book but she is in denial of it all like most of these fat cunt whales.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[I'm not a Robot]

Vic should know by know that there will never be any forgiveness. Monica and Jamie et al were the cause of his Sac Anime disappearance. Even if they came to some sort of agreement, others like Emmett would continue to interfere. He could do everything they tell him to do and it will never be enough.

In yet another example of what not to do, check out the statement Warren Ellis, a comic book guy, released yesterday. He was cancelled a year ago and tried to come back, only to get cancelled again. The company he had an upcoming project with severed ties and tweeted that he would not be welcomed back until everyone was happy, which is never. They then directed their audience to the site that was created to cancel him.

I was made aware today of the So Many Of Us collective's offer of a mediated dialogue, and have today asked their permission to enter that dialogue. Where that will take us, I’m not sure, but I know I want to make certain that I’m doing all I can to no longer be part of the problem or in any way still perpetuating the past. I hope these conversations will be ongoing and productive for all.

A year ago, I put out this statement.

In it, I did my best to respond to the many accounts of my past behavior, the harm I’d caused, and the negative effects of my poor judgments. As I have come to realize, that damage has persisted and left lasting scars for many.

In the past, I have been careless and unthinking in my personal relationships, and I again apologise without reservation. In the last year, I've entered therapy and taken other measures to change my behavior, and am continuing to process the help and advice I've received. I've had a lot of long, hard conversations with people who are or have been close to me, and I need to have a lot more. I'm working on change. I've been silent because I had a lot of work to do and still do, and have repairs still to make, and wish to proceed mindfully without causing further harm.

I have, of course, been silent and isolated for too long, and should have addressed things sooner and proceeded with more speed. I apologise.

All of this should especially have been addressed before word of a new project came out via my collaborator. That was my mistake and the book was prematurely announced without Image's input or knowledge. I should have brought up to him beforehand that I still had work to do to address my past. I should have worked with Image to make sure they were ready and comfortable to commit publicly to the project when I still had work to do to address my past. This is another example of my lousy judgment. I now add both him, and Image, to the list of apologies I owe.

Naturally, trying to mend my errors now makes it look like the only reason I’m speaking at the moment is to serve that project. It's not, but that's irrelevant: this is about me trying to make things right—regardless of how it looks for me or how good or bad the timing is . So here are my thoughts:

I have had nearly a year to reflect on everything I’ve learned about how my behavior has hurt others and I am sorry. Repeating that over and over doesn't make anything better for anybody, but, now I've had my time to listen and process and advance my understanding, there are a few further things I need to say.

I acknowledge that I have done wrong. Neither my intent at the time, nor my perception of it then, erases that fact. Nor does it at all obscure that the result of that behavior has clearly affected individuals for years, and may even have inspired others to perform negative behaviour.

If you are a reader who supported me, then thank you, but please don't defend me anymore. Change doesn't happen overnight -- I'm at the start of a long road, and it's not a road with a defined end - and it doesn't happen in a vacuum. If you want to support me, then support efforts towards transformation of communities, industries and workplaces.

Going forward:

I’ve been in therapy now for almost a year and will remain committed to that part of the process.

I will continue to work on new projects with only the collaborators who have expressed their comfort in doing so with me. I ceased all public appearances, and I think I have a long way to go before such activities would be appropriate again. I am grateful to all my collaborators for continuing to associate with me, and for the difficult but instructive conversations we had to get to that point.

I've always kept my charitable donations private, but, in looking for ways to contribute to change without privileging my own voice, I've expanded my donations into the space of women's support groups. Most recently, my last royalty cheque was split between funding therapy for young women and supporting women in the workplace. I hope to do more and will welcome suggestions of charities that I can build lasting support for.

I do not yet know the fate of this newsletter. I miss talking with you, but I committed to speaking less, listening more and becoming better. There are still 23,000 of you, and it would be nice to use this platform as a tool for doing some good. I'm going to keep thinking about it, take advice from friends and take regular inventory.

As I said before -- I'm sorry I let you down, and I'm sorry I have failed the trust placed in me. I hope that, over time, I can earn back a little of that.

Sincerely,

Warren

 

[TexOffender]

Vic should know by know that there will never be any forgiveness. Monica and Jamie et al were the cause of his Sac Anime disappearance. Even if they came to some sort of agreement, others like Emmett would continue to interfere. He could do everything they tell him to do and it will never be enough.

In yet another example of what not to do, check out the statement Warren Ellis, a comic book guy, released yesterday. He was cancelled a year ago and tried to come back, only to get cancelled again. The company he had an upcoming project with severed ties and tweeted that he would not be welcomed back until everyone was happy, which is never. They then directed their audience to the site that was created to cancel him.


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The warren ellis shit is such bullshit. He got laid using the same schtick with a bunch of women and they all came forward to make it sound creepy.

 

[OneHandClapping]

Vic should know by know that there will never be any forgiveness. Monica and Jamie et al were the cause of his Sac Anime disappearance. Even if they came to some sort of agreement, others like Emmett would continue to interfere. He could do everything they tell him to do and it will never be enough.

In yet another example of what not to do, check out the statement Warren Ellis, a comic book guy, released yesterday. He was cancelled a year ago and tried to come back, only to get cancelled again. The company he had an upcoming project with severed ties and tweeted that he would not be welcomed back until everyone was happy, which is never. They then directed their audience to the site that was created to cancel him.


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Archive of the tweet (after it gets through the massive queue)

https://archive.fo/lSkNG

Not sure which source you used for the Ellis statement, but I used the first one I found in google.

https://bleedingcool.com/comics/warren-ellis-issues-statement-accepting-so-many-of-us-websites-offer/

https://archive.fo/IOS2W

 

[Pie]

That's just some fat retard cunt who has taken over to sperg about Quinton Flynn and gets in retarded sperg outs with ISWV


Try putting it in [sspoiler] [/spoiler] when you're on your phone? And try to avoid double posting and just edit your post.

Archived that shit for ya bruh

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The eyes of mental disorder.
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I see you still haven't made up with your eyebrows.

You also associate with a conglomerate of pedophiles, AKA lawtwitter.

 

[B4st4rdF1r3L0rd0z41]

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She loves stalking this page. Oh well, that's what happens when you live in Finland and lack any eyebrows. Or lack a soul.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

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Hey Sanna, just wondering. Why are you acting like you're in your early twenties when you're 36 years old? (Unless you lied about your age on Tumblr when you wrote it a decade ago) How's Vantaa? (Do a better job hiding your Steam, Youtube, Tumblr, and Facebook accounts next time if you want to act like a spoiled bitch online)

Facebook

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Can someone get an archive of this?
Steam

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Steam wishlist

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What's this I see? Subverse? Well aren't you a little deviant.
Tumblr

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Youtube

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[teriyakiburns]

One comment was of interest. Did Vic break mediation rules by talking about it?

No. There was not, to my recollection, any sort of confidentiality agreement in place for the mediation. Any confidentiality agreement would come at a successful conclusion, but it would be very unusual to put one in place. There is an expectation that parties will agree to maintain confidentiality during the mediation process, but if that process fails, there is nothing binding on them. These people are probably mixing up mediation with settlement negotiations.

 

[Confused Doggo]

No. There was not, to my recollection, any sort of confidentiality agreement in place for the mediation. Any confidentiality agreement would come at the conclusion. There is an expectation that parties will agree to maintain confidentiality during the mediation process, but if that process fails,bthere is nothing binding on them. These people are probably mixing up mediation with settlement negotiations.

Plus Nick was right there. He would have said something if Vic was about to break any disclosure rules.

 

[General Gunther]

On a lighter note, if you search Vic's name into Youtube these are the first 3 results.

You dun goofed Funimation.

 

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On a lighter note, if you search Vic's name into Youtube these are the first 3 results.

You dun goofed Funimation.

Vic has always had favorable results on Youtube. If he needs SEO help it's not on there.

 

[PorkeyDuck]

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She loves stalking this page. Oh well, that's what happens when you live in Finland and lack any eyebrows. Or lack a soul.

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