Weeb Wars / AnimeGate / #KickVic / #IStandWithVic / #vickicksback - General Discussion Thread

[Volmsaiyan]

This seems like a move by sony to hurt the competition. rightstuf is sentais distributor for physical media. Sentai is one of the last purely anime companies Sony hasn't bought out.

 

[Random Internet Person]

This seems like a move by sony to hurt the competition. rightstuf is sentais distributor for physical media. Sentai is one of the last purely anime companies Sony hasn't bought out.

Where’s Theodore Roosevelt when you need him?

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

This seems like a move by sony to hurt the competition. rightstuf is sentais distributor for physical media. Sentai is one of the last purely anime companies Sony hasn't bought out.

Now, I saw articles saying Crunchyroll will allow other companies to continue using Right Stuf, but, yeah, I expect Crunchyroll to use it as leverage.

 

[CumDumpster]

The Frontlines of the Weeb Wars (aka the TL;DR Edition)

The Social Media Front
- Crunchyroll & Right Stuf released a joint statement that the former had purchased the latter:

https://www.rightstufanime.com/post/right-stuf-has-joined-the-crunchyroll-family?utm_source=social%20media&utm_medium=Post&utm_campaign=crunchyroll-announcement-8-4-2022

https://archive.ph/TCB8K

https://ghostarchive.org/archive/u9if1

https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2022/08/04-1/crunchyroll-closes-deal-to-acquire-anime-superstore-right-stuf

https://archive.ph/y11H6

I wonder if Sony did this to spite AMC? If I remember correctly, Sentai Filmworks was using RightStuf International for logistics, much like any smaller anime label tended to. There's also a theory going around that Crunchyroll (Sony Pictures Television) bought them to quash Interspecies Reviewers.
Meanwhile, I'm wondering what'll be done with the Nozomi Entertainment sublicenses on Cinedigm's OTT networks?

Spoiler: Rattling off a few Nozomi sublicenses that RetroCrush features...

Gravitation, Princess Nine, Martian Successor Nadesico, Magic User's Club, Galaxy Angel, Dirty Pair, Boogiepop Phantom...
Those are just seven of them I found rolling through the website's "New Arrivals" section.

 

[ThatDumbPhilosopher]

Many of these cunts have literally been foaming at the mouth about Vic every single day for years, but if he even mentions their name once, they chimp out for a month. Assholes.

I wouldn't say assholes even though it might be a follow-up word for them being immature adulescents who seems to have never left High-School mentally with their clique.

 

[BubbleButt]

I wouldn't say assholes

Yeah, assholes can be useful, these people are just nothing.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Now, I saw articles saying Crunchyroll will allow other companies to continue using Right Stuf, but, yeah, I expect Crunchyroll to use it as leverage.

Crunchyroll kicked out Sentai's titles from their streaming service once they acquired FUNimation, so we should be expecting that here, too.

 

[Mothra1988]

I wonder if Sony did this to spite AMC? If I remember correctly, Sentai Filmworks was using RightStuf International for logistics, much like any smaller anime label tended to. There's also a theory going around that Crunchyroll (Sony Pictures Television) bought them to quash Interspecies Reviewers.
Meanwhile, I'm wondering what'll be done with the Nozomi Entertainment sublicenses on Cinedigm's OTT networks?

Spoiler: Rattling off a few Nozomi sublicenses that RetroCrush features...

Gravitation, Princess Nine, Martian Successor Nadesico, Magic User's Club, Galaxy Angel, Dirty Pair, Boogiepop Phantom...
Those are just seven of them I found rolling through the website's "New Arrivals" section.

I'm still annoyed RightStuf put Mike Toole commentaries on the Dirty Pair Blu-ray set, so yeah adios I guess. I was done buying from you anyways.

I don't really understand how this deal makes sense. From RightStuf's perspective, Sean Kleckner probably saw the writing on the wall in regards to home video going the way of the dino and wanted to get out before it all collapsed. But what does Sony get out of it other than some nefarious shit regarding cutting off other anime companies' distribution? Are they really that petty? They already had good home video distribution through what was left of Funimation's carcass. I don't believe the stuff about no changes. For now maybe, let's see what happens in six months to a year from now. They're already fine with booting hentai off of the Rightstuf store.

I wonder how much the sale was for. Guessing peanuts, but who knows. Would be nice to know how this was negotiated. But yeah, this seems like nothing but a straight up power grab.

But I can't say I care much about some of the final remains of the old anime import industry going away, it showed it wasn't here to serve the fans anyways. If Sentai can mange to separate from these people after this and survive, good for them. But we'll see I guess. I wonder what they think about their distributor selling out to their largest competitor.

If this game of Hungry Hungry Hippos continues, it might be better to start over with new people completely if the Vic project and other things can get off the ground. Part of the reason this nonsense got so bad is becuase this tiny niche industry was so incestuous despite the companies supposedly "competing" agaisnt each other. If that is all disrupted now by monopolization by uncaring corporate masters, newcomers may actually act like REAL competition instead of the crap we saw for 20 years with all these people hobnobbing together to the point that ANY of these people doing the right thing regarding the smear campaign against Vic was impossible. There's real benefit to competitors in an inudstry actively hating each other. We don't need a "community" of fellow fart sniffers, we need comptetitors.

 

[5t3n0g0ph3r]

I'm still annoyed RightStuf put Mike Toole commentaries on the Dirty Pair Blu-ray set, so yeah adios I guess. I was done buying from you anyways.

I don't really understand how this deal makes sense. From RightStuf's perspective, Sean Kleckner probably saw the writing on the wall in regards to home video going the way of the dino and wanted to get out before it all collapsed. But what does Sony get out of it other than some nefarious shit regarding cutting off other anime companies' distribution? Are they really that petty? They already had good home video distribution through what was left of Funimation's carcass. I don't believe the stuff about no changes. For now maybe, let's see what happens in six months to a year from now. They're already fine with booting hentai off of the Rightstuf store.

I wonder how much the sale was for. Guessing peanuts, but who knows. Would be nice to know how this was negotiated. But yeah, this seems like nothing but a straight up power grab.

But I can't say I care much about some of the final remains of the old anime import industry going away, it showed it wasn't here to serve the fans anyways. If Sentai can mange to separate from these people after this and survive, good for them. But we'll see I guess. I wonder what they think about their distributor selling out to their largest competitor.

If this game of Hungry Hungry Hippos continues, it might be better to start over with new people completely if the Vic project and other things can get off the ground. Part of the reason this nonsense got so bad is becuase this tiny niche industry was so incestuous despite the companies supposedly "competing" agaisnt each other. If that is all disrupted now by monopolization by uncaring corporate masters, newcomers may actually act like REAL competition instead of the crap we saw for 20 years with all these people hobnobbing together to the point that ANY of these people doing the right thing regarding the smear campaign against Vic was impossible. There's real benefit to competitors in an inudstry actively hating each other. We don't need a "community" of fellow fart sniffers, we need comptetitors.

I think Crunchyroll is prepping to take on bigger fish: Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, etc.
At the same time they are shoring up their base, they are cutting the ladder behind them.
Win-win for them.
Plus, their competitors will have to pay them to showcase their IPs on Crunchyroll's streaming service.

 

[The Token Ethnic]

I wonder if Sony did this to spite AMC? If I remember correctly, Sentai Filmworks was using RightStuf International for logistics, much like any smaller anime label tended to. There's also a theory going around that Crunchyroll (Sony Pictures Television) bought them to quash Interspecies Reviewers.

Back in 2019 Funimation mentioned that they were partnering with Right Stuf, so that's how they ended up with Interspecies Reviewers after the controversy and it led them to release the show under their 18+ Critical Mass label.

I'm still annoyed RightStuf put Mike Toole commentaries on the Dirty Pair Blu-ray set, so yeah adios I guess. I was done buying from you anyways.

I don't really understand how this deal makes sense. From RightStuf's perspective, Sean Kleckner probably saw the writing on the wall in regards to home video going the way of the dino and wanted to get out before it all collapsed. But what does Sony get out of it other than some nefarious shit regarding cutting off other anime companies' distribution? Are they really that petty? They already had good home video distribution through what was left of Funimation's carcass. I don't believe the stuff about no changes. For now maybe, let's see what happens in six months to a year from now. They're already fine with booting hentai off of the Rightstuf store.

I wonder how much the sale was for. Guessing peanuts, but who knows. Would be nice to know how this was negotiated. But yeah, this seems like nothing but a straight up power grab.

But I can't say I care much about some of the final remains of the old anime import industry going away, it showed it wasn't here to serve the fans anyways. If Sentai can mange to separate from these people after this and survive, good for them. But we'll see I guess. I wonder what they think about their distributor selling out to their largest competitor.

If this game of Hungry Hungry Hippos continues, it might be better to start over with new people completely if the Vic project and other things can get off the ground. Part of the reason this nonsense got so bad is becuase this tiny niche industry was so incestuous despite the companies supposedly "competing" agaisnt each other. If that is all disrupted now by monopolization by uncaring corporate masters, newcomers may actually act like REAL competition instead of the crap we saw for 20 years with all these people hobnobbing together to the point that ANY of these people doing the right thing regarding the smear campaign against Vic was impossible. There's real benefit to competitors in an inudstry actively hating each other. We don't need a "community" of fellow fart sniffers, we need comptetitors.

Right Stuf has been in the business for 35 years, so I'm guessing an offer was made that was good enough to sell and have Kleckner reitre or stick around for help. Sony originally purchased Funimation then Crunchyroll. It would make sense to buy the big name retailer to take care of their items instead of having a separate branch selling their merch. Despite Sentai/HiDive being a competitor, the market is narrow. The way the anime and manga translation is going nowadays, you're better off pirating.

 

[Mothra1988]

I think Crunchyroll is prepping to take on bigger fish: Amazon, Hulu, Netflix, etc.
At the same time they are shoring up their base, they are cutting the ladder behind them.
Win-win for them.
Plus, their competitors will have to pay them to showcase their IPs on Crunchyroll's streaming service.

Well, I hope the supposed industry leaders of the "US anime community" who sold out their companies to Soulless MegaCorporation got enough money out of it, because good luck with any fans of the future kissing these people's asses like had been the case for years at godforsaken shit heep websites like ANN and Anime on DVD. Frankly, I'm not giving Soulless MegaCorporation any money, and I don't have to either. That's what happens when you throw fan good will in the garbage can with something that was built on fan piracy to begin with.

I could become a millionaire off of crypto or the lottery or whatever, and I'd still not give these people any money at this point. Let's see what happens as soon as people have the ability to throw money at Vic and whatever new anime he's in or directing the dub for. There will be a lot of scorned costumers in that group of people, and I'm sure they won't care whether or not they can buy it at CrunchyRoll, the Iowa anime retail store. lol

Right Stuf has been in the business for 35 years, so I'm guessing an offer was made that was good enough to sell and have Kleckner reitre or stick around for help. Sony originally purchased Funimation then Crunchyroll. It would make sense to buy the big name retailer to take care of their items instead of having a separate branch selling their merch. Despite Sentai/HiDive being a competitor, the market is narrow. The way the anime and manga translation is going nowadays, you're better off pirating.

While I agree this is what has likely happened, does Sony really need a RightStuf for the long term? That's the great thing about being gobbled up by one of these huge corporate monstrosities. I like how these companies keep playing it off as, "We're joining Team Crunchyroll!" when reality is they are now just another widget in Sony's massive portfolio. You're just viewed as a literal "brand," not some company with a 20 or 30 year legacy, and when your usefulness is gone, some bean counter will come along and tell the CEO to gut your branch to increase efficiency and save a few bucks, and suddenly some people in Grimes, Iowa will be looking for new jobs. I agree this is mostly about Kleckner retiring, but good luck with any lasting vestige of RightStuf being left after a period of time.

 

[CumDumpster]

Back in 2019 Funimation mentioned that they were partnering with Right Stuf, so that's how they ended up with Interspecies Reviewers after the controversy and it led them to release the show under their 18+ Critical Mass label.

I thought the license Funimation had for Interspecies Reviewers lapsed or was revoked after they sat on the series for several months, likely realizing that it was borderline porn.

 

[Volmsaiyan]

TBH I don't see anime becoming anymore popular than it is now. They are already milking the top shows too much. The Anime merchandise is already over-saturated in stores,I walked in gamestop and they have boxes of anime shirts/toys clearanced.

 

[CumDumpster]

I walked in gamestop and they have boxes of anime shirts/toys clearanced.

I'm gonna hazard a guess that the clearanced merch is of popular shonen franchises (Hero Academia, One Piece, Dragon Ball)?

 

[Volmsaiyan]

Yeah with some AoT, naruto & demonslayer peppered in

 

[Mothra1988]

TBH I don't see anime becoming anymore popular than it is now. They are already milking the top shows too much. The Anime merchandise is already over-saturated in stores,I walked in gamestop and they have boxes of anime shirts/toys clearanced.

Is Star Wars more popular after Disney bought it and shoved it into every five feet of Walmart? I dunno. I'm sure there are landfills somewhere filled with unsold Last Jedi toys. I think I feel the same way when I see Boku no Hero in Hobby Lobby. Are people actually buying this stuff or is it some giant Ponzi scheme?

 

[CumDumpster]

This seems like a move by sony to hurt the competition. rightstuf is sentais distributor for physical media. Sentai is one of the last purely anime companies Sony hasn't bought out.

Last I checked, AMC Networks bought Sentai in an attempt to break into the anime niche since edgy dramas along with contemporary movies (AMC), second-rate comedy (IFC) and trashy reality (We TV) aren't doing well for them.

 

[Mothra1988]

Last I checked, AMC Networks bought Sentai in an attempt to break into the anime niche since edgy dramas along with contemporary movies (AMC), second-rate comedy (IFC) and trashy reality (We TV) aren't doing well for them.

Despite that, they seem less retarded that CrunchyMation whether that is true or not. I'd rather buy from then then those jerks.

 

[Volmsaiyan]

Last I checked, AMC Networks bought Sentai in an attempt to break into the anime niche since edgy dramas along with contemporary movies (AMC), second-rate comedy (IFC) and trashy reality (We TV) aren't doing well for them.

They did,and have done absolutely nothing with it. Wouldn't be surprised if they ended up selling it off

 

[CumDumpster]

Is Star Wars more popular after Disney bought it and shoved it into every five feet of Walmart? I dunno. I'm sure there are landfills somewhere filled with unsold Last Jedi toys. I think I feel the same way when I see Boku no Hero in Hobby Lobby. Are people actually buying this stuff or is it some giant Ponzi scheme?

Firstly, Star Wars is actually no longer popular since Disney did as Disney does and ruined it by treating the franchise like it was capestuff.
As for people actually buying things, not that many are. My guess is that boomer store owners are roped into buying this merch that can't sell to anyone. If Walmart can't sell anime merch to shitheads, then what chance does Hobby Lobby have of selling Hero Academia merch to boomers that frequent the store?

Speaking of buyouts, Cinedigm bought out Digital Media Rights just recently.

http://archive.md/E48zD

Digital Media Rights' family of streaming sites focused on streaming Asian cinema, RetroCrush and AsianCrush being two of the popular ones.
Cinedigm's plan seems to be merging DMRs library into Fandor, Screambox and ConTV.