What are your thoughts on supporting problematic creators? -

[KingJ]

I'm mainly talking about how you feel on the topic of buying products from creators who are generally scum of the Earth. Best example I can think of is Nobuhiro Watsuki, the author of Rurouni Kenshin who was exposed of being a purchaser of child pornography. Since the buying of his manga and blu ray of the work does mean your money goes to him, is it wrong since he could used that money for buying of child porn? I guess an easy answer for this is just to torrent his work, but for me I always want buy any product that are good, at least to me. I have the mindset that the buying the of product should be separate of how the creator used that money and the intent of buying said product. Thoughts?

 

[Fuck you jewish cunt]

If someone who makes something I like turns out to be a scumbag I separate art from artist and continue to enjoy their work

 

[Carcinogenesis]

I tend to avoid artists/creators who do something unforgivable. However, it has to be something truly awful, like the example in the opening post.

 

[OhGoy]

stanley kubrick could turn out to be a serial killing, child raping, monster

and i wouldn't give a fuck because his movies are still good

Edit: muh grammar

 

[KingJ]

stanley kubrik could turn out to be a serial killing, child raping, monster

and i wouldn't give a fuck because his movies are still good

I agree, but my main point is creators that currently benefits from their products being bought. As in they get paid from the sales of their works.

 

[OhGoy]

I agree, but my main point is creators that currently benefits from their products being bought. As in they get paid from the sales of their works.

if the creator continues creating quality products, then i'll keep buying their stuff

if the creator's products decline in quality or they quit altogether, then i stop

 

[Sperglord Dante]

IDGAF if the creators I support are shit people privately, but if they publicly do something I really dislike that's different.

 

[Pina Colada]

Depends on how severe their actions were. If it's small-time stuff like a misdemeanor or an off-color remark, I'll live and let live. If it's a biggie like what Watsuki did, I usually stop and focus on a similar work with a different creator.

 

[Dolphin Lundgren]

If a director does something appalling, I still watch the movies but I stream them instead of paying for them.

 

[MrTroll]

I used to enjoy the movies of Woody Allen and Roman Polanski, until I learned that they were Jewish. Disgusting!

 

[Tetra]

No. Because once money leaves my hands for all intents and purposes, it's not my money anymore.
I support material I like. If some guy makes something I like and I give him my money, that money will be his now. And my involvement ends there. he will then use that to buy something he likes. And if he spends that money on disgusting shit like cp, well, I hope they take him down for it, but at the end of the day, he supported it not me.

If I am going to worry about if I may or may not accidentally support disgusting people, then I would have to get overly paranoid. Countless people are involved in making tv shows, making foods, running the grocery store etc. Money goes around and your involvement with it stops when it leaves your hands.

In a situation where I know they're disgusting; if there is only one possible person the money will go to; I might choose not to support it depending on how much I like the series, of course.
If there is multiple people involved; I will not punish the other people for what one person on the staff did/does.

 

[carltondanks]

i don't have the answer to this

 

[JustStopDude]

It is interesting to have this conversation on Internet with people I assume are westerners.

Our lives in 1st world is supported by very brutal extraction of resources. Coltran in electronic, oil from ground, gold, etc. All require brutal regimes and exploitation beyond our views.

I must go to many of these places for work. I drink a lot. Its is brutal to see the conditions, at the same time, people will kill for those jobs because it is beter than starving.

 

[RG 448]

Anyone who consumes art created by a problematic creator both endorses and shares that artist’s values and is just as guilty.

 

[The Fifth Waltz]

There's some friends that dislike me buying Jeffree Star's makeup. Some have gotten as far by Ghosting me on social media for it. If you like their shit, buy their shit.

 

[Tlazolli]

Probably will draw the line if the content creator is a rapist/pedophile/genocide advocate. Other than that, I probably won’t give a shit.

 

[Gordon Cole]

I'm generally all for separating art from the artist in most cases. We could find out that Paul Thomas Anderson raped more women than Weinstein did, and I still wouldn't think any differently about his accomplishments as a writer/director. However, when the art and the artist are so intertwined that they're impossible to separate (Louis C.K., PWR BTTM), then I usually abandon ship.

 

[The Shadow]

I tend to judge these things on a case by case basis. I can still watch L.A. Confidential even though Kevin Spacey is, to use the film's parlance, a pervy fruit (and it definitely gives his subplot of trying to blackmail a gay district attorney some weird new unintended subtext). I've made my peace with it, because the movie's already been made, right? His character's supposed to be sleazy, so in a weird way it works. I'm conscious of the fact that I'm rationalizing it away and I'm conflicted over it.

But that isn't always how it works. I tend to keep Polanski's work at arms' length. Knowing what we know about him it's hard not to see unintentional fingers pointing toward who he is in his work. I've watched Chinatown and Rosemary's Baby only once each. I can't separate him from his work.

I know a lot of creators got up to a lot of vile shit we don't know about (and some we do). The more obscured it is by the mists of time, the more slack I'm willing to potentially cut them. But you definitely won't find any Gary Glitter in my music library. Some things are just impossible to rationalize away for me. I still recognize that there's some cognitive dissonance going on with these case-by-case basises, and we're all probably guilty of trying to separate the artist from the art to some degree when we really like something.

But I never looked at Harrison Ford the same way after learning he worked with and supported dropping the charges against in-exile Polanski. Really puts the end of Temple of Doom in a fucked up light.

TL;DR I'm waffling on this because I want to not support creeps but sometimes I try to rationalize it.

 

[kitty shit]

I just download everything anyway.

 

[HY 140]

i dont give a fuck tbh, just let me like what i like