What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[Pope Negro Joe the XIIIth]

The people worldwide who actually hold power are convinced that the current human population levels on earth will destroy the ecosphere and bring about complete human extinction. They are contemplating (or, more horrifyingly, already secretly implementing) all manner of measures to bring about a massive population reduction in the next fifty years.

The worst part is, they're right.

Assuming that humans have any sort of say in the 6th extinction is the peak of hubris. It's much too late at this point.

 

[Karl der Grosse]

What am I missing about population control being bad? Is it that we’re carrying it to its logical conclusion (Children of Man style no birth, killing already-born people, forced sterilization, that kind of thing)

Yeah, pretty much. Not to mention that the ultimate goal is a tiny elite living lives of luxury and a serf population to serve them. The no-birth, sterilization, and killing will never be levelled against them, only the massive population of useless eaters. And to the elite, we are all worthless eaters.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

I’ll be the first to admit, I’m a bear of very little brain, so I ask questions. What am I missing about population control being bad? Is it that we’re carrying it to its logical conclusion (Children of Man style no birth, killing already-born people, forced sterilization, that kind of thing)? I get that, I just never see the segue spelled out and want to make sure I’m on the same page.

There's definitely too many people on the planet, with regards to how our lifestyles are, to be sustainable.

There's two main types of population control:
1. People having fewer children, either by encouraging them or forcing them to.
2. Killing already born people.

For #1, as long as it's not forced, I don't think anyone has a problem with it. Forcing it is obviously very bad.

For #2, most people (myself included) would have a huge problem with this one and I think this is generally what is referred to by "population control" by conspiracy theorists.

 

[Corpun]

These are a few that popped into my head, may post/elaborate on them further if need be.

• FDR was aware of a Japanese attack on US Soil. Not to say he let Pearl Harbor happen or that having the carriers out was planned or anything, just that FDR knew based on intel he was given by the British and the military, Japan was preparing for some sort of offensive against the US. He decided to let it happen, presuming it would be somewhere closer to Japan like Guam or the Philippines, as it would justify the US getting into the war he very clearly wanted to join anyways.
• The government/FBI/CIA knew someone wanted JFK killed. Kennedy clearly had bitten the hands that fed him far too many times for them to tolerate him anymore. The guy had shot down false flags to justify invading Cuba, military action against Castro, and was allegedly going after the Fed Reserve. Either Oswald was paid off to kill Kennedy, was acting for a foreign government, or the Feds simply picked him up to be their fall guy. Jack Ruby was there to off Oswald so he couldn't blab if he wanted to.
• The CIA infiltrated the media during Vietnam. Simply put the CIA had numerous assets spin the war into a good thing as best they could in the 60s in hopes to combat the anti-war movement growing. They stopped just short of propaganda films, which would have been more blatant propaganda, preferring a subtler approach. This infiltration has lasted far beyond the war into today where the media very obviously acts as a propaganda wing for one or more political groups.
• There are independent small groups of wealthy and influential men and women influencing the world. Elitist society has always existed but seems to have rapidly expanded either right after WW2 or in the Interwar years, though these groups probably have their roots in the preceding century. They actively demonize any and all nations and people who don't play by their rules and work against them for their own benefit. It is why corporations are basically untouchable anymore and these individuals are as equally unreachable to face consequences barring serious fuck ups. They aren't an exclusive club per say, new money can mingle with old money, but certainly have a hierarchy. In essence they are basically a new nobility plotting their own schemes separate from each other, which is why you see a lot of them marrying into each other's family (One of Bush Jr's girls is married to a Koch for example). They aren't allied to each other but as they all like fucking over the average joe they basically are. For now
• From roughly the 2000 Election onward all elections have been fraudulent. This probably goes back further, hell Nixon was almost certainly cheated out of his 1960 run thanks to the Kennedy's ties to the political class, but post-2000 (Which Bush Jr. probably won in the end thanks to his daddy's name) this is far more glaring.. It is likely the cheating was basically minor shit like a few thousand votes here or there, stuff that flies under the radar, but some telling shit is 2016. I ca get to the media incidentally making Trump POTUS later but basically Trump said in 2016 how the election might be cheated in Hilary's favor. The media instantly came out and said how elections can't be cheated. So did Obama. So did Hilary. Then, in a shock twist Trump actually won, recounts in Michigan and a few other areas came up with even more Trump votes, and suddenly the media narrative, Hilary included, is that Russians hacked the election, etc. Whether or not 2020 was actually cheated is another debate.
• Someone in the government was aware of 9-11. A lot like the FDR one, someone or a group of people were aware that a terror attack may happen and let it happen. Why? To justify shit like the Patriot Actor intervention in the Middle East. Who exactly knew of it, why ,and other questions are what goes unanswered, but it's likely the same reason the FBI ignores random schizos who go on shooting sprees, to justify mass surveillance and their budgets.

I can elaborate further on ones related to Israel, the CIA, and big Tech/corporate oligarchies. Oh and in light of recent news,

McAfee didn't kill himself.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Since people are talking about environment and overpopulation, here's some interesting thoughts.

 

[Question Mark]

Does thinking that circumcision is a scam count as a conspiracy theory?

 

[Lemmingwise]

Does thinking that circumcision is a scam count as a conspiracy theory?

This is among the easiest conspiracies to prove.

 

[Corpun]

Does thinking that circumcision is a scam count as a conspiracy theory?

It is. I remember when the skin cream thing was a deboonked conspiracy until yeah, parts of a circumcised foreskin are used to make a skin scream that the rich use.

 

[HymanHive]

There will come a time, soon, where the elites will be able to live without money existing. When technology gets to a point (we aren't far off) where it can sustain life (grow food, raise animals etc) then a select number of worker humans will be kept alive to maintain/run the technology. These workers will live in relative luxury and the elite will live with all the wealth and prosperity in the world, while enjoy an Earth almost emptied of humans.

A garden of Eden.

 

[Lemmingwise]

There will come a time, soon, where the elites will be able to live without money existing. When technology gets to a point (we aren't far off) where it can sustain life (grow food, raise animals etc) then a select number of worker humans will be kept alive to maintain/run the technology. These workers will live in relative luxury and the elite will live with all the wealth and prosperity in the world, while enjoy an Earth almost emptied of humans.

A garden of Eden.

But then who will they hunt, sacrafice, rape and eat?

 

[HymanHive]

But then who will they hunt, sacrafice, rape and eat?

Bugs, Bugs, Puppies and Bugs

 

[L50LasPak]

This one is less of a theory and more of a hypothetical, because for me the jury is still out on aliens knowing about or examining the human race. However, that said,

I've seen the idea advanced fairly recently that if there is alien life currently examining us and our actions, that one of, if not the only reason they have not contacted us is that they are no longer an organic form of life, and the alien "race" is machine in nature. Either some kind of AI, or their species did achieve the goal of uploading a person/people into a computer and then had no problems destroying the originals.

This honestly makes the most sense to me regarding the nature of an alien race. It would explain why their actions seemingly make no sense at all to our priorities, why they have no interest in communicating with us directly (they may regard us as lesser lifeforms, or, more realistically, we simply cannot communicate with them because our ways of thinking are fundamentally incompatible), and it would explain how they can explore the universe if FTL is really impossible. What's a few hundred years accelarating close to the speed of light to cross an interstellar gap to a computer? What's a few thousand? Few hundred thousand? Even a million, if their technology can last that long?

Not coincidentally, I've become incredibly skeptical that filthy organic races, with all of their endless, endless flaws, including a constant drive to dominate our lesser members (hint: if you don't like dominating, you're probably the one being dominated, and you've already lost) can ever achieve a starfaring civilization at all. Infact, for me, the only thing standing in the way of the idea that machine life is the next stage of evolution is the doubt that any organic race can even accomplish something like that before killing itself off.

But all that said, I still rather doubt we've actually experienced alien contact at all.

I was just about to ask, did he mean anti-intellectualISM as in “return to Monke,” or as in “the industrial revolution and its consequences etc etc”

Its kind of neither. More a "Smart people will eventually cause trouble, so you should keep an eye on them and not ever let them have too much respect or power".