What do you think the long-term impacts of the riots will be? -

[Rand /pol/]

Personally I think the biggest impact of the riots/protests is America (and the rest of the west) becoming more socially liberal.

The riots have resulted in more than a hundred statues getting torn down and resulted in Mississippi changing its flag. The tearing down of lots of these statues was endorsed by Republican politicians as was the Mississippi flag change. To me this shows the Conservative movement losing a lot of cultural power.

 

[TFT-A9]

Very little of import, if anything. Business as usual will continue, maybe with a slightly different set of clothes, but I don't really think anything's going to meaningfully change - at least, not anymore.

 

[Dave.]

Very little of import, if anything. Business as usual will continue, maybe with a slightly different set of clothes, but I don't really think anything's going to meaningfully change - at least, not anymore.

Maybe on surface level, but on a sub-surface level you're definitely going to see some strained and tense relationships between blacks and whites. Those white liberals that claimed to fight for blacks... well they're going to still do that, but in the comfort of all white neighborhoods that they may or may not leave a whole lot any time soon. There's also probably going to be a lot of strained police forces that may or may not get the job done and get ready to see the largest spike in crime the U.S has ever faced on a national scale.

 

[Shield Breaker]

They're not going to stop, so there's going to be a nasty backlash, just like with the religious right. I am already afraid we'll see an actual resurgence in white nationalism thanks to these assholes.

 

[Lurkio]

If anything, I think people are going to be turning away from Liberal policies after the complete debacle that CHAZ was/ is turning out to be. Yeah, sure, they tore down some Confederate statues and a flag got changed, if these people stopped there then your point might have some weight, but they also; got a statue of Theodore Roosevelt and freaking Abraham Lincoln removed as well as motivated several major companies to get rid of iconic and beloved black mascots from their brands due to the tension (because not seeing Aunt Jemima's smiling face when I make my morning pancakes is going to teach my cracker ass not to be racist, for sure). Oh, and let's not forget all the property damage they did to peoples houses and local businesses, of all ethnicity and color, there are a lot of good, honest, hard working people who are out of a job and have had their lives work ruined because of these protests, and no, insurance isn't going to be able to bail most of the people out despite what your average check mark will say.

You may not hear about it on the news or the front pages of social media (for obvious reasons), but there are a lot of people who got their lives screwed up or have friends who've had their lives messed up as a direct result of these riots, hell, I'd go as far as saying that just about everyone in the U.S was negatively impacted by these riots in at least some small way, even if it's only not being able to Uncle Ben's comforting visage when they go to make minute rice. I'll admit, at first I thought we'd see this shit spiral out of control and potentially see defunding of the police on a larger scale, but thankfully the rioters decided to inconvenience a politician who, at first, publicly supported these people, but back tracked as soon as her livelihood was threatened in the slightest way. So now I think all of the negative shit these rioters have caused is gradually going to come more to light.

I really hope this doesn't stir up racial tensions, as just as many black people were negatively impacted by this as people of other ethnicities, despite what the Twitter check marks say, but we'll have to wait and see. Personally I'm hoping that the CHAZ in New York completely blows up in the cities face (which it's currently doing right now, but we'll have to wait a bit longer to know for sure) which could be the deathknell of the movement and turns the public against the riots, especially if there's more deaths at the hands of CHAZ "authorities". This alone probably won't turn everyone against BLM, as I'm sure BLM, as well as every celeb/ company that backed this shit, will just memory hole their support of the riots, but I can guarantee the people who had their shit burnt down or property destroyed will remember along with people who brought this all up a month ago when all this started and were immediately shut down by every woke asshole on the web. I don't expect a big revolution or huge socialite change, but I think there will be little shifts in public opinions here and there that you juuuust might be able to trace back to the riots.

Edit: Don't know why I was dubious about where or not the NY CHAZ would fall apart, less then a week past and the NYPD are already scrambling to dismantle CHAZ...We might not see any repercusions immediately, but I wouldn't doubt that we'll seeing the after effects of thus whole debacle having severely hurt the reputation of Liberal policies within a few months...

 

[Syaoran Li]

8/10

OP is obviously posting bait but it's a good question to ask and a discussion worth having

Honestly, I think this could be a "make or break" moment for the American Left and the election in November will be the first big moment of truth on where we are heading as a country.

If Trump wins and the GOP can maintain the Senate, the neoliberal corporate Dems are going to cut their losses and disavow Antifa, BLM, and the wider Millennial Left to save face and out of the sake of basic pragmatism, especially if Trump wins both the popular and electoral votes.

If the GOP can somehow gain a narrow majority in the House as well as keep the Senate, then I'd expect this decline to happen even more quickly as certain institutions like academia could lose government support outside of a few necessary areas (which also happen to be the least left-wing) and the media will adjust their products to make more money.

If Biden wins, expect woke culture to last longer, since the corporate bigwigs will feel vindicated in backing the Woke Left. They back the SJW's and bow to the mob because they're convinced that 2016 was a fluke. If it weren't for Bernie's 2016 campaign and Hillary narrowly winning the popular vote, maybe they wouldn't triple down as much as they have....

 

[Rand /pol/]

I am already afraid we'll see an actual resurgence in white nationalism thanks to these assholes.

The lack of any significant response from the far-right during the protests makes me doubt this.

 

[The Pink Panther]

America is already socially liberal, faggot.

SAGE

 

[albert chan]

They're not going to stop, so there's going to be a nasty backlash, just like with the religious right. I am already afraid we'll see an actual resurgence in white nationalism thanks to these assholes.

>implying that black nationalism won’t be as worse

only thing this will change is that U.S. will be known as a more progressive country that will have more victim cards than usual

 

[Begemot]

Anything that makes meat-eaters and dumb chuds whine is great in my book. Their time is over.

 

[mindlessobserver]

It's really hard to say at this point because for the most part the vast majority of people in America still view the System as responsive to their vote. Which means the coming election cycle in America will be as much a referendum on the Riots as it is the politicians themselves.

It goes without saying, but the 2020 Federal Elections are probably the most important since the 1860 elections. With all that implies.

 

[Shield Breaker]

The lack of any significant response from the far-right during the protests makes me doubt this.

The alt-right aren't as stupid as I thought, and apparently learned from Charlottesville to not take bait. No, what I am talking about is these fools keep going until white normies are scared shitless and they either vote in an actual authoritarian or they decide that voting no longer works and we end up with Days of Rage 2: White Boogaloo. I'm not saying I am sure it will happen, it's just what I fear.

>implying that black nationalism won’t be as worse

only thing this will change is that U.S. will be known as a more progressive country that will have more victim cards than usual

I never said it wouldn't. My husband is white, and so I don't want him or our children to be discriminated against by the MovieBobs or Hood Rats.

 

[potato in mah painus]

The lack of any significant response from the far-right during the protests makes me doubt this.

The mantra has been stay home and defend it, that has been my own local groups and circles online. when the mobs start ripping people out of homes and firebombing neighborhoods outside of their own ghettos is when you are going to start seeing a response and it is not going to be pretty.

We still have Floyd's court case and November to cross, barring a kangaroo court I think the cops are going to walk free from that and the riots are going to be whipped up into a fever that dwarfs the violence of the first week. A 2nd term under Trump will possibly have the same effect.

TLDR: make sure you have ammo, because the biggest bumps are yet to come.

 

[Salubrious]

I think the country is more racist than it was a month ago.

Over the last several years, it's been clear on social media that people will just shame each other for wrongthink. Most people aren't on social media, but it seems more than ever that people can do the same thing to the general population. The big difference is that people on social media will actual beg forgiveness because they don't want to be kicked out of their little clubs. The general population when confronted with a shouting SJW will nod and play along and then think that person is crazy.

White people can only be told so long that they are evil simply for being born white and that black people are allowed to commit felonies with impunity and that they are in the wrong for "showing white privilege" for being upset about it.

I've already been told all my life that I wasn't black enough for being biracial. Now we've shifted to the point where Terry Crews isn't black enough.

This will all backfire eventually, not in a public display, but in people's inner opinions. Ironically the same think that people THINK they are protesting against.

 

[Pissmaster]

It's definitely gonna leave blacks in a much worse place than anyone else, what with a lot of their areas getting destroyed, and how nobody's gonna want to open a business in a neighborhood where the possibility of losing it all and having the perpetrators just get away with it is a very real possibility.

 

[Rand /pol/]

The mantra has been stay home and defend it, that has been my own local groups and circles online. when the mobs start ripping people out of homes and firebombing neighborhoods outside of their own ghettos is when you are going to start seeing a response and it is not going to be pretty.

We still have Floyd's court case and November to cross, barring a kangaroo court I think the cops are going to walk free from that and the riots are going to be whipped up into a fever that dwarfs the violence of the first week. A 2nd term under Trump will possibly have the same effect.

TLDR: make sure you have ammo, because the biggest bumps are yet to come.

I know it's very cliche to compain America to Weimar Germany, but during the Weimar era the rural right-wingers in Germany didn't sit back and do nothing while the left was taking direct action in Berlin. In America, the lack of a response to me just seems like an admission of defeat from the right, or it shows that they've basically ceded every American city to the left (which IMO is as good as an admission of defeat).

 

[Salubrious]

I know it's very cliche to compain America to Weimar Germany, but during the Weimar era the rural right-wingers in Germany didn't sit back and do nothing while the left was taking direct action in Berlin. In America, the lack of a response to me just seems like an admission of defeat from the right, or it shows that they've basically ceded every American city to the left (which IMO is as good as an admission of defeat).

This could be pinwheel of me, but I think it's more of a "don't interrupt your enemy while he's making a mistake moment."

Why should the right get involved? Just stay on the sidelines and then months down the road point and say "look what you did."

Edit: That came out more Steve Urkel than I had intended originally, but I'm keeping it anyway.

 

[Pissmaster]

I know it's very cliche to compain America to Weimar Germany, but during the Weimar era the rural right-wingers in Germany didn't sit back and do nothing while the left was taking direct action in Berlin. In America, the lack of a response to me just seems like an admission of defeat from the right, or it shows that they've basically ceded every American city to the left (which IMO is as good as an admission of defeat).

That was also a time before everyone had HD camcorders in their pockets, and could send those videos all around the world at moment's notice.

Considering it's probably safe to say that most right wingers are largely armed, and living in a country with the world's most liberal gun laws, it's remarkable how much restraint's been showcased by so many people. Even a report about someone pulling a gun on someone acting insane, without even firing, is still newsworthy.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Why should the right get involved? Just stay on the sidelines and then months down the road point and say "look what you did."

If the far right does nothing while every major (and minor) city in America is being taken over by the left than to me that makes the far right look weak.

 

[potato in mah painus]

I know it's very cliche to compain America to Weimar Germany, but during the Weimar era the rural right-wingers in Germany didn't sit back and do nothing while the left was taking direct action in Berlin. In America, the lack of a response to me just seems like an admission of defeat from the right, or it shows that they've basically ceded every American city to the left (which IMO is as good as an admission of defeat).

Salubrious beat me to it, but the response is pretty much the same. The left have had control over the inner cities for years upon years. They are literally destroying their own neighborhoods, cities, and almost all of their political gains/goals that require the majority to be going along with out the window.