What Drives People to Join the Rat King? - Theories and Discussion on Why Anybody is Friends with These People

Feline Darkmage

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The rat king isn't the entity itself. The rat king is a cancer that grew within the support network for transfolk

The tumor sometimes looks as though it's taken on a life of its own.

it all boils down to people exploiting other people's empathy and stirring drama when they want attention.

But yeah this 110% tbh
 

Coldgrip

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And on the flip side: What drives the popular Rat Kingers to keep going on aside from having surrounded themselves with enablers?
I'm not sure about your other questions, but in this case I'd say a combination of arrogance, the inability to learn from their mistakes, the inability to see how their behavior is fucking them up and how it screws them over in the future. Couple that with an echo-chamber and I'd say you have the basic idea behind most Rat-Kings.
 

Wallace

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While "cult" is what keeps people in the Rat King, as far as what drives them there...

There's a very low threshold of entry for a lot of online cliques, and the Rat King is no exception. For example, if you want to join a a pick-up baseball group IRL, you need to have at least some skill with baseball to get in and be accepted. With SocJus, all you have to do is speak the right cultural shibboleths, and you're in. For someone with poor social skills/autism, it looks like a perfect match: a community built on inclusion and mutual support. By the time they realize what it's really like, it's too late. Likewise, having such easy membership requirements makes it easy for shitty people to get inside and start doling out the abuse. They come in because they see it as an easy way to gain a little clique of social capital, and maybe even money too.

I'm not sure about your other questions, but in this case I'd say a combination of arrogance, the inability to learn from their mistakes, the inability to see how their behavior is fucking them up and how it screws them over in the future. Couple that with an echo-chamber and I'd say you have the basic idea behind most Rat-Kings.

This is one of the things that cults do: they build emotional dependency. If you want out, you have to turn against your friends and everything you have built for yourself. It's far more easy to double down when the cost of folding is a hit to your self-esteem.
 

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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And on the flip side: What drives the popular Rat Kingers to keep going on aside from having surrounded themselves with enablers?

Pretty certain that the entourage & free money is about all there is to it. Maybe a hungry ego to feed, but that's just about the only believable remaining ulterior motive I can think of.
 

Thiletonomics

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Pretty certain that the entourage & free money is about all there is to it. Maybe a hungry ego to feed, but that's just about the only believable remaining ulterior motive I can think of.

Is the money that rat king members get for padding each other's Patreons actually allows them to make a profit?
 

Tragi-Chan

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There are a lot of groups for people who kind of suck at life, and which one you join depends on your background. If you come from a white conservative background, for instance, you might join a white supremacist organisation. Or if you're a Muslim, you might join Isis. The Rat King is like that for LGBT people and fetishists. Basically all these groups say, "Yes, your life sucks, but it's not your fault, it's everyone else's."
 

MarvinTheParanoidAndroid

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Is the money that rat king members get for padding each other's Patreons actually allows them to make a profit?

Only if they never actually give any money away. Patreon will keep patrons on file even if they aren't paying out, so you could theoretically use an empty gift card to inflate numbers & make it look like you're giving asspat money. I wouldn't put it beneath them to do something like that.
 

An Ghost

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These are my favorite photos. It's always autism. Whether it's autistics stick together or transgenders are autistic and stick together, its all autism.
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ConcernedAnon

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Personally, I think a lot of these hangers on are just neckbeards that realized they wouldn't be valued as long as they were just underachieving, socially awkward men. So they became underachieving, socially awkward transtrenders instead. And now they have an easy way to deflect criticism, a group that will give them e-hugs, and a questionable sort of social status. Look at Jake Alley, quintessential goony beard man, he's a failure by his own merits, but having declared himself a woman he gained a group that would at least affirm his worth (if only for a time).
 

cuddle striker

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I might be an autistic tranny and wannabe programmer but I actually have a job and I'm too problematic to talk to any of them without getting blocked and blacklisted lol.
do you think it's actually just having real jobs, being productive that keeps people out of a ratking? as in just having a real job might be enough.

they're all problematic to begin with so I don't take that as too much of a reason they can avoid getting sucked in, they've got pedos and racists and misogynists and rapists and shit in the tailcake, after all
 

An Ghost

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do you think it's actually just having real jobs, being productive that keeps people out of a ratking? as in just having a real job might be enough.
Poor Zachary had a job for several years before, after being observed by us, got fired for sucking dick on company time in his uniform. He's been employed at jobs short term before he screwed something up. Jobs only help him buy more fetish stuff like dildos and plushes.
Oh no! Not the wiffle bat! This is worse than Phil's crowbar! Have mercy tranny-Frodo, you monster!
A transgender flag-colored Baseball bat... I don't even know why there's a demand for, or someone would be low enough to make one of those.
Formerly (I think they stopped making them) made by Scout Trann Caffee. They bought defective aluminum baseball bats that couldn't be sold elsewhere whole sale, slapped on some paint, and charged $40 for em. I can't find them on their website anymore. Phil bought two while begging cause his fridge was empty.
 

cuddle striker

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but
Poor Zachary had a job for several years before, after being observed by us, got fired for sucking dick on company time in his uniform. He's been employed at jobs short term before he screwed something up.
but those aren't real jobs- if they're always short term it's hardly like he's working. I mean a real job. or did he have some kind of actual useful career?
 

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