What if microchips were to become mandatory worldwide in the near future? - A possible worst case scenario for those who value their freedom
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If that were to happen, Liquid ocelot would go from a funny cartoon character into an inevitability.
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I doubt it will ever happen, but if it did, I'd reject it and maybe off myself while I still could if it got that bad.
Knowing you are a conservative Protestant traditionalist, I'm assuming you're making the case for a futurist view of the Book of Revelation. I can see why a lot of people would think we're close to that, given how Current Year seems to be the closest real life has ever gotten to being like Revelation (or Brave New World and Animal Farm, for that matter) but I don't think it's going to happen so soon.
Here's the problem about the mandatory microchips, it's too close for comfort to the "Mark of the Beast" in Revelation and the elites know this.
This might go over in Northern European shithole countries like Germany, Sweden, or the United Kingdom and also in communist China since they already have the social credit score system and Christianity never really took root there, but in America it would go over worse than a wet fart in a diving helmet.
Even in "based" Catholic European countries like Poland, Italy, Ireland, and Hungary, it'd probably would cause a backlash, to say nothing of right-wing and Eastern Orthodox Russia and Serbia
Even in a society as secular as today's, any attempt at mandatory chipping is going to cause a mass backlash from both the Christian traditionalist faggots and the survivalist militia crowd, to say nothing of all the ancaps and ancoms who don't want any government control.
Plus, a lot of inner-city blacks tend to be socially conservative Protestants even if they otherwise affiliate with the left politically, and if they tried to implement any mandatory microchip bullshit in the United States, the reaction would make the ongoing Minneapolis riots look like a small game of badminton and you'd also have rioting and violence in the rural Bible Belt in addition to the major cities since so many would be freaking the fuck out over an oncoming End Times event, and a lot of lapsed ex-Christians or liberal Christians would collectively go "oh shit!" and try to rejoin the faith and side with the rioters and militias.
Especially if the elites try and do the whole "cannot buy or sell without it" stuff mentioned in Revelation, and any of the nations who are closely allied with the United States and aren't part of the EU will also join in opposition to it, even if only to preserve their good standing with the United States.
For the elites to successfully do any mandatory microchip program, Christianity has to totally die out in the wider cultural memory, and despite what the traditionalist faggots say, we haven't hit that point just yet, even with society being as secular and liberal as it is today.
The Religious Right may be dead and irrelevant, but they were also still recent enough to still be in American collective memory and get used as a boogeyman by the SJW Left and the neoliberal corporate elites.
As long as the Boomers and the older conservative components of Generation X are still around, I don't think we'll see any mandatory microchips being floated out there. The neo-traditionalist Zoomer /pol/ tards would also be in arms about it, but they're a lot fewer in numbers compared to the Boomers and Gen X'ers who are conservative Christians.
For the elites to successfully implement a plan like the one described in Revelation, Christianity has to basically suffer the same fate as paganism did, where it's largely dead except as a historical reference and smaller revivalist groups.
I'd suspect the new wave of Zoomer neo-traditionalists and /pol/ kiddies could very well be the foundation for these small Christian groups, much like how the New Age movement and the hippies of the 1960's helped lay the foundations for the wider Neopagan revival in the United States.
Plus the Third Temple in Jerusalem has to be rebuilt before the Beast can even come to power and be able to issue the mark. Unless Terry A. Davis was entirely correct about everything and TempleOS is the Third Temple in a digital form, we're not at the point where Revelations can even start to happen just yet.
Until the Dome of the Rock gets destroyed and the Israeli government can finally build the Third Temple unimpeded, I'm not going to start freaking out about the Second Coming just yet. There's plenty of other things in the here and now that are way more concerning at the moment.
TL;DR-I'm not accepting any chip if it gets to that point, but there's no way it'll happen, at least not yet.
Knowing you are a conservative Protestant traditionalist, I'm assuming you're making the case for a futurist view of the Book of Revelation. I can see why a lot of people would think we're close to that, given how Current Year seems to be the closest real life has ever gotten to being like Revelation (or Brave New World and Animal Farm, for that matter) but I don't think it's going to happen so soon.
Here's the problem about the mandatory microchips, it's too close for comfort to the "Mark of the Beast" in Revelation and the elites know this.
This might go over in Northern European shithole countries like Germany, Sweden, or the United Kingdom and also in communist China since they already have the social credit score system and Christianity never really took root there, but in America it would go over worse than a wet fart in a diving helmet.
Even in "based" Catholic European countries like Poland, Italy, Ireland, and Hungary, it'd probably would cause a backlash, to say nothing of right-wing and Eastern Orthodox Russia and Serbia
Even in a society as secular as today's, any attempt at mandatory chipping is going to cause a mass backlash from both the Christian traditionalist faggots and the survivalist militia crowd, to say nothing of all the ancaps and ancoms who don't want any government control.
Plus, a lot of inner-city blacks tend to be socially conservative Protestants even if they otherwise affiliate with the left politically, and if they tried to implement any mandatory microchip bullshit in the United States, the reaction would make the ongoing Minneapolis riots look like a small game of badminton and you'd also have rioting and violence in the rural Bible Belt in addition to the major cities since so many would be freaking the fuck out over an oncoming End Times event, and a lot of lapsed ex-Christians or liberal Christians would collectively go "oh shit!" and try to rejoin the faith and side with the rioters and militias.
Especially if the elites try and do the whole "cannot buy or sell without it" stuff mentioned in Revelation, and any of the nations who are closely allied with the United States and aren't part of the EU will also join in opposition to it, even if only to preserve their good standing with the United States.
For the elites to successfully do any mandatory microchip program, Christianity has to totally die out in the wider cultural memory, and despite what the traditionalist faggots say, we haven't hit that point just yet, even with society being as secular and liberal as it is today.
The Religious Right may be dead and irrelevant, but they were also still recent enough to still be in American collective memory and get used as a boogeyman by the SJW Left and the neoliberal corporate elites.
As long as the Boomers and the older conservative components of Generation X are still around, I don't think we'll see any mandatory microchips being floated out there. The neo-traditionalist Zoomer /pol/ tards would also be in arms about it, but they're a lot fewer in numbers compared to the Boomers and Gen X'ers who are conservative Christians.
For the elites to successfully implement a plan like the one described in Revelation, Christianity has to basically suffer the same fate as paganism did, where it's largely dead except as a historical reference and smaller revivalist groups.
I'd suspect the new wave of Zoomer neo-traditionalists and /pol/ kiddies could very well be the foundation for these small Christian groups, much like how the New Age movement and the hippies of the 1960's helped lay the foundations for the wider Neopagan revival in the United States.
Plus the Third Temple in Jerusalem has to be rebuilt before the Beast can even come to power and be able to issue the mark. Unless Terry A. Davis was entirely correct about everything and TempleOS is the Third Temple in a digital form, we're not at the point where Revelations can even start to happen just yet.
Until the Dome of the Rock gets destroyed and the Israeli government can finally build the Third Temple unimpeded, I'm not going to start freaking out about the Second Coming just yet. There's plenty of other things in the here and now that are way more concerning at the moment.
TL;DR-I'm not accepting any chip if it gets to that point, but there's no way it'll happen, at least not yet.
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It's pretty easy to make an EMP to disable something like that
ArnoldPalmer
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Ooh, I'd probably just kill anyone who came to my door trying to force me into that. No need for a text-wall, that's a total do-or-die situation.
With that said, what are the retarded arguments people are using in favor of this? How is an RFID Cattletag somehow more convenient than owning a wallet?
With that said, what are the retarded arguments people are using in favor of this? How is an RFID Cattletag somehow more convenient than owning a wallet?
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The book of revelations was propaganda against the Roman Emperor Nero, and the government has no need to implant anything in the average person's body in order to track them because all those average people are carrying around a cell phone that can be tracked. Also, implanting something into the hand is not ideal, if someone was going to implant a tracking device into your body they'd put the device in question in your hips or buttocks, where there is more body fat and thus more space to work with.
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wtfNeedSignUp
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Microchips wouldn't be mandatory but you can bet your ass there will be a massive media campaign demonizing anyone not taking it as backward savages and the government and corporations will slowly shift their operations to make the lives of people without microchip far harder (don't want to wait in line several hours, just put a microchip in).
Move to the countryside and drop off the grid.
ArnoldPalmer
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See, I agree with this, and I've even purchased land in the middle of nowhere for the express purpose of the inevitable bugout-level event we're probably going to see before 2030. The problem with innawoods, is that all it takes is a single drone with a thermal imaging rig to sniff you out. If not already, we're soon going to reach a point where running away from society isn't going to work, because there won't be a place on earth left to run away to. It's really down to Blaze of Glory, or Suicide by Government, but if you want the extended play session for blaze of glory, that's what the innawoods bugout is for.
Again, why would they need to do this when they could just instead make use of the cellphone, laptop, tablet, or any other internet-enabled device that can be easily tracked through various means that most people will likely be carrying?
I also think money and reason is also going to need to play into this. Not just how to profit from it, but also how much there is needed to spend. Something like this would probably be inexpensive but at least into the millions. It also wouldn't help that to execute this plan with immediate manpower, that's already going to increase the cost exponentially, and with reference from Syaoran, you will not get far if you go slowly and steadily from urban cities to rural country towns. Unless someone is willing to sacrifice cost over a sense of power and gain of control, pull off some massive conspiracy, and considering the expenditures and how we aren't out of a recession technically, this does not seem likely. People are already freaking the fuck out about not being able to work and go outside and about fucking facemasks being some dehumanizing mechanism to somehow let the gummimint control the populace, do you think they want to have active micro bioelectronics stuffed into their bodies?
Because then the government invasion of privacy vaguely aligns with eschatological prophecy.
OP has confessed that he believes that the global elites are a literal demonic hive-mind, so by definition their scheme must resemble the events described in Revelation; otherwise it falls apart.
wtfNeedSignUp
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The amount of control. You can leave your appliances at home or disable its tracking ability. Plus a microchip can give a reading about your current status like blood pressure or sugar level, information that will be gobbled up to be archived and tested.
Well, that's the thing, you are right, technically, because right now in the present day, we are not quite at the point yet where a One World Government can be enacted, because besides the USA, there's still two major superpowers in the world, China and Russia, not counting Iran, and the whole of the European Union, hence there's still various different nations competing against each other for power and influence. The New World Order will do the seemingly impossible and bring all of these nations together and form a one world nation, and a one world religion revolving around the Anti-Christ, and all of the world's religions including Islam, Catholicism, Judaism, Buddhism, Paganism, Hinduism, etc. will "realize that they all worship the same "god". Soon, the world will not only accept it, but they will demand it, but the world in its current state, isn't quite ready for this to happen yet.
However, you can clearly see that the number one superpower in the world, the United States of America, is currently in a state of decline. I mean, look around you all over the news, cities all over the country are currently rioting, to the point where rioters are throwing flash bombs in news headquarters buildings and attacking news reporters, because they're angry, want answers, and are sick of being lied to by all of these corporate news companies, whether if it's CNN or Fox News spewing the propaganda.
Not to mention, that we're still going throw a pandemic crises that is hemorrhaging the American economy, and the Federal Reserve is pumping money into the stock market as a way to keep it on life support, but what happens when a nation's treasury keeps printing more and more money out? It's called hyperinflation, in which said nation's money becomes so devalued that it literally becomes useless, and you might as well use it to wipe your ass with, or keep a fire burning when you can no longer afford to pay your gas bill during the winter, and thus need to keep your house warm, somehow. Venezuela is currently suffering from it, and have been for the last few years, so who's to say, that won't ever happen to the United States?
Point being, I predict that sometime in the next year or two, the good ol' USA, and most of the western world, for the matter, is going to fall into a second Great Depression, started as a result of hyperinflation, and with how demoralized and polarized people already are today, do you really believe that American citizens are going to handle it very well?.....The sad part is, most of them won't even see it coming either, and the future financial crises is going to hit the average middle class American like a tidal wave, and when that happens, expect the chaos that is currently happening in every city currently to be multiplied by infinity, and not just in the city either. Even in the suburbs, people are going to be stealing from each other, backstabbing each other, and killing each other over necessities and resources.
The chaos that will result from all of this will surely spark civil war in the USA, and that's just the beginning...
And those are essentially the very same groups that are fighting against each other to the detriment of themselves. The powerful elites know all too well that if all of these groups were to put their differences aside and unite together, they wouldn't stand a chance at bringing their plans of global domination to life. Why do you think the mainstream news media is telling these groups to point the finger at each other, and thus hate the other side? This is all intentional, get all of these groups to either kill each other off, or significantly weaken each other, and then let martial law take care of the rest once civil unrest grows to big for the average police department to control. Hence why a second civil war seems inevitable in the next 5 years. Once that happens, the USA is going to make like the Roman Empire a millennium ago, and collapse from within.
Oh, one way or another, they'll cooperate. Either through passive brainwashing which they have done a good job of brainwashing alot of poor black people into hating white people through news, music, and other forms of entertainment, or for those who wake up to the fact that they're being lied to by the democrats, the United Nations will probably send their armies to either send them to FEMA camps, or just murder them for the sake of "world peace", that is, after the inevitable collapse of the United States.
The US dollar will collapse before this happens, and this is how they're get the world's population to comply to being microchipped. They will willingly surrender their freedom in order to obtain security in the future world. The chip will provide them with everything, their money which will be completely digital, kind of like Bitcoin, their medical records, bank accounts, IDs/driver's licenses, phone contacts, house/car keys, etc. The chip will probably do even more than that once the technology is perfected. The average person will blindly accept this for its convenience, because who wants to lug around a cell phone, cash, and keys everywhere with the risk of losing said items, right? This will all be done in the name of "progress".
During the Second Great Depression, most people, the sheep if you will, will flock to this technology which will probably be in the hands of the United Nations, because that's how they'll be able to control the world, through technology. However, the smart people will have already prepared for this economic collapse by farming and stocking up on necessities, and will simply just fall under the radar when this happens.
Great point! This actually validates my theory and belief that there will be a Pre-Tribulation Rapture in the near future, because it would just simply make sense for the Anti-Christ to be revealed once all of the true believers in Jesus Christ get raptured into heaven, because Satan knows that those believers will absolutely not buy into any crap and blasphemy that the Anti-Christ will spew to the world, and thus it would be far harder for the Anti-Christ to get the world to worship him, because those people, like you said, will rebel against him.
Once they're raptured into heaven though, it will be far easier to get the world to band together and fight off the few remaining Christians left behind, and those people who will become born again Christians once they realize their screw up after seeing loved ones just "mysteriously disappear". The Anti-Christ will label these people as "religious extremists" and thus brainwash the world into either persecuting them into submission, or just killing them outright. It wouldn't even surprise me if the United Nations ended up offering bounties on Christian "Extremists" as an extra incentive for the avarage person to hunt them down, and turn them in to the New World Order.
Speaking of the New Age movement, this New Age Religion will be the One World Religion that will revolve around The Anti-Christ. New Age doctrines teach things like the "Law of Attraction", meditation, and making yourself your own "god", hence the world famous phrase "Believe in Yourself." Believe it or not, that phrase is actually a New Age teaching, and it sounds good on the surface, but in reality, its not, because it's Jesus who we need to believe in, for those reading this who are Christian, anyway. Hence why believing in yourself is very deceptive advice. It puts yourself above the most high.
True, that and Jerusalem has to completely belong to the Jews once again, before the future events in Revelation can unfold, and obviously, this means that Palestine has to fall/cease to be Muslim which hasn't quite happened yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up happening soon. I mean, Israel has recently annexed parts of Jordan, after all.
I will admit, despite the fact that you obviously disagree with me here, I do respect your side of the argument here, as you have made some pretty good points here in your post. Take that as you will, of course, my friend.
Well, for one, your wallet as convenient as it is, can potentially be lost or stolen, as it isn't attached to you all of the time. This will not be the case obviously with the RFID chip. That will be one of the main selling points they'll use in order to convince foolish and lazy people to take this chip willingly.
It's quite simple, you can physically get rid of all those items and/or destroy them, and thus keep the government from using those devices to track you down, at least if you're smart, and know how to live without relying on technology like the Amish do. That obviously wont be the case with a microchip in which you can't physically get rid of, unless you're crazy enough to actually cut off your right hand, assuming your microchip gets inserted there, but who would be insane enough to do that?.....wait please don't answer that....
If you have cognitive improving microchips combined with a eugenics style breeding program in the near future (2050s +), you don't truly have a choice if you want to contribute meaningfully in society. You can't compete with brilliant cyborgs who graduate college at 12.
If you refuse the microchip, you'll be forced into an ever decreasing pool of menial jobs.
However, the worst case scenario is having the chip inserted into your tiny pee-pee, and then your girlfriend telling you how stout your microchip is.
If you refuse the microchip, you'll be forced into an ever decreasing pool of menial jobs.
However, the worst case scenario is having the chip inserted into your tiny pee-pee, and then your girlfriend telling you how stout your microchip is.
Yeah but dude? The average normie isn't going to destroy their cellphone, their laptop, their tablet, their whatever. Leaving aside the problem that I simply do not share your religious beliefs(let alone that I don't buy that the book of revelation is anything other than a propaganda tract against roman imperial authority) and never will, this is still a frankly silly idea. The average person is utterly dependent on modern technology and will remain so for the foreseeable future. I don't begrudge you having faith, but this "mark of the beast" crap is some seriously paranoid bullshit.
You are right, the average person will foolishly hold onto all of their technological devices that they wouldn't even dream about departing with, especially if they have been used to being rich in materialistic possessions. However, it isn't just the average person that Satan wants, he wants everyone on the earth to worship the Beast, or be destroyed by it. After all, his goal is for the entire world to bow down to the Anti-Christ, and I believe he'll use these RFID chips to achieve that, for taking the Mark of the Beast means that you permanently declare your allegiance to him, and you can't just simply remove a microchip from your body, not without convincing a trained medical professional to safely do it anyway, but all of those doctors will have willingly taken the Mark by then in order to maintain the stability of their careers, and will thus work for Satan.
We're not going to have much common ground here, I'm not religious, but I will say this: you aren't the first fundy christian to make these sorts of claims, in my own memories I remember stuff like this being said around the turn of the millennium and the Y2K computer bug that was supposed to bring society to a sudden stop and lead to some satanic dystopia in the aftermath, similar claims were made after Obama was elected, and how he wouldn't leave office when his second term was up. This would then lead to him revealing himself as being the antichrist and all the other assorted fundy christian fantasy stuff.
I could go on, but the bottom line is this: none of it happened. The Y2K bug fizzled out, and the year 2000 was just another year. Obama left office in 2016 as Trump was sworn in to much shrill shrieking from insane IDPol types. These aren't the only examples either, this kinda crap has a long history, and all the people predicting it have been, obviously, wrong.
I feel like I'm reading the prequel to Brad Watson's thread.
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