What is race? - Can a cracker be a nigger?

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

What is race, in your opinion? The way you look, the way you act, what's in your blood, a combination of all these or something else?

Sometimes things don't seem so clear cut. Take for example Trey Parker's daughter:

Her father is half jewish and half white. Her mother is half black and half white. Result: by blood, that blonde little girl is a black-white-jew. However! Many jews would say she's not a jew because her mother isn't a jew, many whites would say she's not white because she her ancestry is too mixed and most blacks would say she's not black because she doesn't look like it. By culture she's probably upper class Californian, what race that's supposed to represent is up for debate. What is her label supposed to be?

Or Shay Mitchell's kid:

Shay is half white half Fillipina. The father is part white, part black and part native Canadian. By blood, their daughter is white-black-asian-native. By looks, she's white. By culture she'll probably be upper class Californian. What's her label?

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

It's about who is fastest.


The answer is the Kenyans.

 

[Naidyonov]

If shaun king is black then so are these.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

One-drop rule, they always turn out as mutts

 

[Big Bad Wart]

It's about who is fastest.


The answer is the Kenyans.

>Kenyas being the fastest

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

>Kenyas being the fastest

I need to be more up to date on my stereotypes...

 

[Yuuichirou Kumada]

Baby don't lynch me, don't lynch me, no more.

 

[Unassuming Local Guy]

Race exists the way color exists. If I told you to pinpoint exactly where along the electromagnetic spectrum it stops being red and starts being orange, you wouldn't be able to without drawing a completely arbitrary line. Despite this, you'd have to be a complete idiot to tell me red and orange do not exist.

On a practical level, race truly doesn't matter. What matters is culture. Humans are what they're told to be. Grow up around shit, become shit. This has been demonstrated many times. Once you control for culture, we really are basically all the same with some relatively minor variations in IQ. It just so happens that culture and race correlate perfectly a lot of the time, exacerbated by the way the media encourages everyone to apply as many labels to themselves as possible and then stay in their assigned boxes.

 

[Desktop User2]

First the "Shame the supremistist" thread, now this. You are on a mission, aren´t you?

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

>Kenyas being the fastest

Sonic is Kenyan. We wuz hedgehogs n shiet.

First the "Shame the supremistist" thread, now this. You are on a mission, aren´t you?

Of course. I'm trying to destroy the white race, duh. Didn't you know? Kiwifarms is an internet synagogue, everyone here is a jew.

Really, though, I have no problem with the few supremacists who behave respectably. It is possible to believe one race is more likely to have positive traits than others without being autistic about it.

 

[Pissmaster]

Science + race = DNA tests where you find out you're 2% black and then you feel empowered to say "nigger" in public until someone gets offended and tells you to shut the fuck up and then you smugly pull out your phone and show him your 23andme results sheet, only to have him rip your phone from your hands, shatter it on the ground, and tell you you're not black.

Race seems to only really matter as far as whatever your parents were. Matt Stone's blonde daughter looks white, so she's gonna be called white, treated like she's white, and if she puts down her race as black when applying to colleges, they're probably gonna question her and have to decide if quarter black actually counts as black by whatever committee rule decides exactly how black you have to be to qualify as black. It's very much a superficially social thing.

 

[Legoshi]

Some ethnolinguistic groups such as the Austronesian and Turkic vary greatly in appearance depending on the location, but they all come from a common ancestor and the languages they speak are so similar to each other.

Tuvan

Turkish

Filipinos and Merinas

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Prince Cuck's baby look white despite his quadroon mother. His mother has done everything possible to physically erase her black ancestry while simultaneously reminding everyone about it every chance she gets. It's just annoying and sad at this point.

 

[Based Cheeto]

Race is just a grouping of ethnicities and yes that's genetic. Now let's all have a laugh with Paul Mooney

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

Prince Cuck's baby look white despite his quadroon mother. His mother has done everything possible to physically erase her black ancestry while simultaneously reminding everyone about it every chance she gets. It's just annoying and sad at this point.
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Who's Prince Cuck?

 

[Lemmingwise]

Kids, particularly of mixed parentage often look whiter than they do compared to when they grow up.

European people are more neotenic than other people. Various monkeys have lighter hair in childhood too. You also see this in other traits as is common for neotenic species like dogs: more playful, more curious, less territorial to outgroups (typically other species in animal kingdom, but can relate to biological groups in humans), brain plasticity in adulthood.

Race is really just a placeholder word for genetic groups. Some people exist on the fringe of multiple groups, some people in the center. Some people's phenotypes may have them look more like a group that they are only half part of. Looks have a huge influence on how we are treated depending on prevailing local attitudes. But the underlying moods and personality as codes by genes have a huge and often unexamined effect as well.

Race often becomes a subject fraught with political gerrymandering. At its root it's just giving a name to genetic groups, which you can make as superficial or complex as the level of magnification that is appropriate for what you're examining.

How you're regarded is certainly not unimportant (like a the child of a jewish father not being regarded as jewish), but the genes don't care and will express themselves jewlike.

For example Bobby Fischer, despite regarding himself as non-jewish both has typical jewish facial features as the higher than average IQ as well as some jewish personality traits. He may be antisemetic, but that doesn't change how his genes express themselves.

On a practical level, race truly doesn't matter. What matters is culture. Humans are what they're told to be.

Blank slate has long been disproven. I get that the idea is still percolating, but it has no basis in fact.

What matters may be culture, but culture is only the flower. Biology is the root. You can look at any of the adoption twin studies for that.

The genetics of the biological parents have a much higher predictive value over whether kids are alcoholics, smokers, extraverted or introverted and a number of other studied traits. Much higher than the parents that adopted them, chose their surroundings, school, raised them. You can read the studies or watch documentaries like Hjernevask on youtube where academics are interviewed and things are made easy to follow.

Most parents learn to discard the idea that kids are whatever they're told to be when they have a second kid and discover that a different mix of genes demands a different approach.

 

[biozeminadae1]

Some ethnolinguistic groups such as the Austronesian and Turkic vary greatly in appearance depending on the location, but they all come from a common ancestor and the languages they speak are so similar to each other.

Tuvan

Turkish
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Filipinos and Merinas

Most Turkic people are genetically assimilated, their ancestors were East Asian/Mongoloid.

Race serves as an ethno-cultural and phenotypic grouping to me. A greater taxon in which several human "familiae" exist.

To be honest, I don't even consider negroids as Homo Sapiens, they ought to be considered their own species whose closest relatives are Homo Sapiens. And don't give me that bullshit that different species can't produce offspring. Lions and Tigers produce offspring, as do wolves and dogs.

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

Kids, particularly of mixed parentage often look whiter than they do compared to when they grow up.

European people are more neotenic than other people. Various monkeys have lighter hair in childhood too. You also see this in other traits as is common for neotenic species like dogs: more playful, more curious, less territorial to outgroups (typically other species in animal kingdom, but can relate to biological groups in humans), brain plasticity in adulthood.

Race is really just a placeholder word for genetic groups. Some people exist on the fringe of multiple groups, some people in the center. Some people's phenotypes may have them look more like a group that they are only half part of. Looks have a huge influence on how we are treated depending on prevailing local attitudes. But the underlying moods and personality as codes by genes have a huge and often unexamined effect as well.

Race often becomes a subject fraught with political gerrymandering. At its root it's just giving a name to genetic groups, which you can make as superficial or complex as the level of magnification that is appropriate for what you're examining.

How you're regarded is certainly not unimportant (like a the child of a jewish father not being regarded as jewish), but the genes don't care and will express themselves jewlike.

For example Bobby Fischer, despite regarding himself as non-jewish both has typical jewish facial features as the higher than average IQ as well as some jewish personality traits. He may be antisemetic, but that doesn't change how his genes express themselves.



Blank slate has long been disproven. I get that the idea is still percolating, but it has no basis in fact.

What matters may be culture, but culture is only the flower. Biology is the root. You can look at any of the adoption twin studies for that.

The genetics of the biological parents have a much higher predictive value over whether kids are alcoholics, smokers, extraverted or introverted and a number of other studied traits. Much higher than the parents that adopted them, chose their surroundings, school, raised them. You can read the studies or watch documentaries like Hjernevask on youtube where academics are interviewed and things are made easy to follow.

Most parents learn to discard the idea that kids are whatever they're told to be when they have a second kid and discover that a different mix of genes demands a different approach.

Genes are important and we're definitely not blank slates, but culture still plays a big role in how people turn out. Those raised in good environments are more likely than those raised in garbage bins of being well adapted to society.

For example if you abuse a kid during their formative years you can turn them into a de facto low functioning autist, regardless of how bright they may have been had they had a normal childhood. https://archive.md/2RqjK

Race serves as an ethno-cultural and phenotypic grouping to me. A greater taxon in which several human "familiae" exist.

To be honest, I don't even consider negroids as Homo Sapiens, they ought to be considered their own species whose closest relatives are Homo Sapiens. And don't give me that bullshit that different species can't produce offspring. Lions and Tigers produce offspring, as do wolves and dogs.

My response to that has always been "but does it really matter"? If something acts like a human, it should probably be respected like one even if it's a literal bear we're talking about.

 

[Secret Asshole]

Whiteness and race are invented concepts postulated by guilty rich people who needed to justify their sociopathy in the early 20th century by social Darwinism. The 'white' race is a modern invention as Europeans had been fucking murdering each other since the dawn of time. Conveniently, all of the people deemed non-white by Social Darwinism and Racial Science of the 20th century were immigrant groups that were being worked to death by the rich in their factories. Irish, Italians and Slavs are notably the people not considered 'white'. Eugenics was an incredibly popular science in America in the 1930s until Hitler.

'Blackness' is uniquely American and defined by African Americans unable to trace their ancestry. It is a foreign concept outside of the United States.

Race is a cultural concept far more than a genetic or phenotypic one. As evidenced by many pictures in this thread, children from mixed families can come out as looking like one race or the other, and it might even be impossible to tell that they are mixed. Race is a cultural phenotype; a grouping of specific cultural characteristics and identifiers that put us into specific groupings. Appearance, dress, language and speaking are part of this cultural phenotype.

This gets more complicated when powers that be want to divide people into races in order to control them and foster hatred of the lower classes. Generally, this has been used as a tool to get races to kill each other in order to stop racial unity and looking to the powers that be as their true oppressors. So race is an incredibly complicated component that has been manipulated by ill-intentioned people throughout history, making defining it an ultimately fruitless task as people tend to have an ulterior motive when doing so.

For all intents and purposes, stripping it of its (HIGHLY) charged nature, race is: A cultural phenotypic indicator based on behavior, appearance, food, political values, speech in which they can be categorized as belonging to a certain region, class, nationality, city or community. Genetics plays a role, but in general, nurture and environment are going to shape the way genetics come out.

We do have inborn behaviors and do share behaviors with our parents, but to the extent to those which are racial are entirely subjective, not objective. Race is not objective and actually does not exist in any meaningful sense besides the one we attribute to it.

Race serves as an ethno-cultural and phenotypic grouping to me. A greater taxon in which several human "familiae" exist.

To be honest, I don't even consider negroids as Homo Sapiens, they ought to be considered their own species whose closest relatives are Homo Sapiens. And don't give me that bullshit that different species can't produce offspring. Lions and Tigers produce offspring, as do wolves and dogs.

1) Wolves and Dogs are the same species. Dog breeds, much like races, do not actually exist. They are entirely a subjective classification. Genetic dog tests are nearly identical to 23andMe tests. They compile a bunch of genetic data from a region (in this case, breed) that they think is common and compare it against the subject. This doesn't account for the thousands upon thousands of years of genetic drift and free reproductive travel between populations.
2) Male Ligers are sterile.
3) This has been known since 1922 and most species on the planet observe Haldane's rule: "When in the F1 offspring of two different animal races one sex is absent, rare, or sterile, that sex is the heterozygous sex (heterogametic sex)". This means that in species hybrids, males are sterile, rare or non-existent (XY, heterogametic as opposed to XX, homogametic). This means that it is impossible for hybrids to be their own species. Humans freely reproduce with one another, do not follow Haladane's rule and are not separate species.
4) Reproductive isolation is a huge factor in speciation and differentiation and in fact, in evolution. Humans have not been reproductively isolated from each other for enough of a time to be able to be considered separate species.
5) Genetically, we are 99.9% identical to one another. This is not enough to make a new species. Comparatively, chimps, our closest relative, are 96% identical to us.
6) While lions and tigers are separate species, they belong to the same genus. Much like humans and Neanderthals were different species, but were the same genus. Like tigers and lions, humans and Neanderthals could interbreed as well.
7) Please just say you hate niggers and stop trying to couch it in pseudo-academic language.

My response to that has always been "but does it really matter"? If something acts like a human, it should probably be respected like one even if it's a literal bear we're talking about.

Race is a form of social control, and if someone tells you to care about race, be they a Nazi or a progressive, they're trying to control you for their own ends.

 

[biozeminadae1]

7) Please just say you hate niggers and stop trying to couch it in pseudo-academic language.


Race is a form of social control, and if someone tells you to care about race, be they a Nazi or a progressive, they're trying to control you for their own ends.

Um, okay? People are either the controllers or the controlled. And if it came across that I'm sugar-coating my racism, I'm sorry. I hate niggers.