What is to be done if you are among the Right in America?

[ColtWalker1847]

By all means, be disgusted. But then kindly prevent America from further economic sliding, that alone will make a strong man come to power whatever your naysaying.

I already told you my biggest issue today is finding cheap OSB. I think it's pretty fair to say that I'm not one of the economic doomers.

Especially not to the point where I would be deluded enough to think a dictatorship would fix things. Do you actually know how well the economy in Germany was "fixed" back then? It wasn't. They just found a different way to hide massive deficit spending (MEFO bills) then went to war and stole a bunch of shit. That was their solution. It sucked. Even if things went their way, which it totally didn't right from the beginning, it still wouldn't have worked.

Because they were strongmen trying to force solutions and didn't understand how anything actually worked. Need more food? Just take more from farmers as a tax. That kinda stupid shit.

 

[lurkin]

Do you yanks suppose the left has been co opted and ran into the ground to drive you over to other side of the spectrum?
From what Ive read antiwar movements in the 60s didnt start out with dirty hippies but eventually evolved into that scene making even the most enlightened centrists want to napalm children to not be associated with the left. They were guided by the laurel canyon set which was a hotbed for miltel, not too mention the white panthers aka woke actors of the era. Even the black panthers started in earnest to elevate their community before they got caught up with militant liberals and were pretty much a terrorist front by the end of the 60s. It seems like they promote the worst people possible with the loudest platform banking on angry contrarians to vote against their own interests, they would of had to of known that clinton was the worst person to put against someone with such a populist standing with everyman america, or was that done on purpose?
These are all genuine questions Id love to hear from you guys about because its baffling to an outsider like me.

Another thing does anyone actually enjoy john oliver or snl?

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

I've a long-winded statement for this due to my distaste for doomerism but I'm fairly fucking dead right now thanks to only having just woken up, so give me time...

I'm open-minded. And I agree that the time for ending democracy is not yet, the ways-of-life determine the morals of a population. Fat and lazy men do not make great and virtuous societies, hard times and adapting to the hard times alone makes a virtuous people. I fear hard times are coming, but they are not yet here.

Sorry for being a doomer, I'm no leader so I've only my pessimisms. Once there is a movement, then I'll perk up.

Do you actually know how well the economy in Germany was "fixed" back then? It wasn't. They just found a different way to hide inflation (MEFO bills) then went to war and stole a bunch of shit.

The economy of the mongol empire was still an economy whatever the sacking of enemies, even America relies on labor cheaper than would be considered humane by some. Is that not morally theft? How convenient if you thought it perfectly fine to do. The empire needs cheap finished goods, and so its industrialists moved their manufacturing to china. Just as the Romans would have in our place. Brutal efficiency is the hallmark of moral people, I suppose?

Societies which get desperate go infantile in their romanticism, and brutal in their means. Cause and effect, its as simple as that. Interwar Germans were put onto the thin ice, and brutality formed first within their number and then against those who they thought put them there.

Need more food? Just take more from farmers as a tax. That kinda stupid shit.

Wasn't that the Holodomor? Assuming treachery from the Jews causing the logistical breakdown near the end of WWI, putting them in camps during WWII, only to find out that Germans can do tactics, manufacturing, and soldiering but not logistics was the National Socialists. Never let your army try to sucker-punch a Russian, the French, English, and Polish maybe but never the Russians. The vast expanses of Russia swallowed the lightning strike of the German armor whole without blinking.

Do you yanks suppose the left has been co opted and ran into the ground to drive you over to other side of the spectrum?

Possible that they are only pretending to be retarded, but there are too many sincere actors among the left who wish what they promote. Fools, all of them. Not that @ColtWalker1847 would not say the same of me. Desperation makes fools of us all.

they would of had to of known that clinton was the worst person to put against someone with such a populist standing with everyman america, or was that done on purpose?

Clinton's ego and internal promises and politicking made the democrat party too rigid to avoid the mistake, plenty knew but it is like coming onto the deck of the Titanic just within sight of the iceberg and too late to do anything about it. Stupidity in organizations is a terrible thing to watch sometimes.

Another thing does anyone actually enjoy john oliver or snl?

Few, its just a snake eating its own tail for a few elites. There are surprisingly good people I know who liked Oliver until he touched a topic they actually knew something about and then it woke them up to what he was.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

Not that @ColtWalker1847 would not say the same of me.

Dude, your whole schtick is "wouldn't it be great if things are way shittier than what they are so we could get Nazis?".

Not only is it nowhere near that bad but, as I said earlier, National Socialism failed spectacularly when tried. It isn't a viable solution.

Also, it was just effectively Authoritarian Scandinavian Socialism. That isn't going to find a whole lotta takers in the American Right. We hate big government, we hate government socialist programs, and we hate the strongmen who try to implement it. We are the types who wish a government so small "to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub".

Barking up the wrong tree with this shit. Try it with the commie burnouts. Maybe they will bite. They are dumb and impressionable enough.

 

[Evo]

I already told you my biggest issue today is finding cheap OSB. I think it's pretty fair to say that I'm not one of the economic doomers.

Especially not to the point where I would be deluded enough to think a dictatorship would fix things. Do you actually know how well the economy in Germany was "fixed" back then? It wasn't. They just found a different way to hide massive deficit spending (MEFO bills) then went to war and stole a bunch of shit. That was their solution. It sucked. Even if things went their way, which it totally didn't right from the beginning, it still wouldn't have worked.

Because they were strongmen trying to force solutions and didn't understand how anything actually worked. Need more food? Just take more from farmers as a tax. That kinda stupid shit.

I like you a lot friendo but you know I'm always ready and willing to sperg on this issue, SO: MEFO bills were a temporary precursor to the military-industrial complex that Germany built to sustain themselves throughout the war - you can't really disdain a war economy considering a war economy is what literally brought the United States out of depression and into great power status; no, a war economy is not a permanently sustainable economy but to imply this was the entire basis of Reich economics is fucking laughable when one understands that the German war economy was only truly rolling and on-the-ground long into the beginning of Barbarossa and only by 1943 did the German war economy have real mainlined production (incidentally when steel shortages also began to pinch assembly lines.)

Spoiler: Otto Remer on tank production.

"Our armaments program did not really get going until after the war against the Soviets was underway. We started with 3,260 tanks. That's all we had, but the Soviets had 10,000. At that time our monthly production was 35 tanks. Imagine that! It wasn't until October 1944 that we reached the high point of our production of 1,000 tanks per month. So, our monthly production of tanks went from 35 in 1941 to 1,000 in late 1944. That's quite a difference, and it's proof that we were simply not militarily prepared for a world war."

Interestingly enough the usual platform for criticism of Reich economics holds points influenced by Mises, the common defender of Austrian economics of the period, and he had allowed Austrian banks to lend at sixty times their capacity two years into the Wall Street crash, this led to the collapse of the Austrian banking system which pulled the rug under the Hungarian government; their currency, the Fenic, was rendered worthless in a year - the hyperinflation his policies created is fairly similar to the hyperinflation created by our own policies today, with the addition of something that looks like MEFO bills.

"The aims of the present regulation of production can be summarized in a few words. First, the securing of supplies of raw materials for industry. All measures serving this aim are included in the Four-Years-Plan the aim of which is to make Germany as independent as possible of imports by increasing domestic production.

Second, an increase in domestic agricultural production with the aim of making Germany, as far as possible, self-sufficient in the field of foodstuffs.

Germany has only a few raw materials and has always been faced with the necessity of importing the greater part of her raw material requirements. But as you realize, imports can only be paid for out of export proceeds or other credit items in the balance of payments such as shipping, insurance, or proceeds from capital investments abroad. As a result of the War, Germany is no longer a creditor but a debtor country. In other words, she was burdened with a tremendous indebtedness and had at her disposal no great income from investments abroad, while her other income from abroad is today less than it was before the War. Germany must therefore limit her imports to the extent of her exports, with the consequence that Germany's raw material and foodstuffs imports are dependent on the amount of goods which other countries are able and willing to take from her in payment."

Spoiler: Regulation of production.

The German government follows no definite theory in establishing the methods by which intervention in the field of production is to be accomplished. This is one of the most characteristic traits of National-Socialist economic policy. In combatting unemployment, the government did not follow one theory such as the theory of direct public works or the theory of the stimulation of private initiative, but followed both theories impartially according as to which seemed best at the time. The same is true of the regulation of production.

The various measures may be classified as: 1. indirect and 2. direct.

The State undertakes indirect measures when it intervenes not in production and capital investment themselves but in conditions which govern them.

There are four special groups of indirect measures:

1. Regulation of taxes, especially reduction of taxes.

For example, in order to revive automobile production, which was at an extremely low level, and thus to stimulate motorization in Germany, which had lagged far behind the level of motorization in other countries, as early as 1933 the Government abolished the tax on all new passenger cars, later extending this to all automobiles. This made automobiles much cheaper and increased the sales of the industry. In the last five years, these measures together with the economic upswing have brought about a great advance in automobile sales and a great improvement in German motorization. In 1932, only 19 out of every 1,000 people in Germany owned cars as compared with 41 in France and 37 in Great Britain; today, however, the figure for Germany is 35 in every 1,000, as compared with about 51 per thousand in France and Great Britain.

A further example of regulation of production by means of tax reductions was the exemption of short term capital goods from income tax. After 1933 the value of these goods could be deducted from taxable income of the individual and from the taxable profits of an enterprise. This stimulated the purchase of such goods and was a means of increasing the low activity of the capital goods industry. The elasticity of the National-Socialist economic policy can be seen in the fact that this measure was repealed as soon as the capital goods industry was fully employed.

2. The second means of indirect regulation of production is price policy. This can take place in two ways: by a reduction in costs and by an increase in, or guarantee of, sales prices. These methods have been chiefly used in the field of agriculture, where production reacts quickly to price changes. An example of this reduction may be seen in the prices for artificial fertilizer, farm machinery and agricultural implements. On the other hand, by a scaling of farm prices it has been possible to increase considerably the acreage given over to winter barley, the production of fiber plants and oil fruits, and the number of sheep.

3. Closely related to this price policy is tariff policy, the utilization of which is necessary where domestic goods compete with foreign products. This is particularly important in the case of agricultural products, the prices of which are considerably lower on the world market than in Germany. Special boards have been set up in order to compensate for these differences in prices, and are empowered to regulate imports.

4. The last method of indirect regulation of production is the prohibition of new private issues on the capital market. Since new issues are permitted only for special purposes all those branches of trade and industry which are shut off from the capital market are thus limited in their capital investment possibilities. They can only extend their plants, etc., to the degree that their own funds allow. Thus in 1933 a special board was set up under the control of the Reichsbank, to which application must be made before new issues are floated. Permission is only granted for private issues in the case of companies which serve the ends of the Four-Years-Plan, where, moreover, no other possibility of financing their work exists.

So here is where I note that the form of rearmament that Germany used to spur economic growth from 1935-onward was no different than the American model used to spur growth out of the Great Depression - rearmament is essentially what saved the American economy, but the reality is if America hadn't actually successfully used the results of rearmament, they would've experienced the same hyperinflation that Germany experienced in 1945 - snapshotting German economics in 1945 as a point of criticism is considerably poor considering by 1945, most German industry had been bombed, sabotaged, or flatout lost - the German heartland started to experience massive fucking bombing campaigns by 1944, and the rest of Europe saw bombing campaigns as early as 1943; were one to snapshot German economics in, say, 1941, and the war were to end two years later, then you'd be hardpressed to say that a magical bubble of hyperinflation would've been seen considering the Reich would've had access to a long-list of resources - from oil in Bessarabia to the Caucasus, German arms industry would've still been fairly well-equipped, but deprioritized and would've been reverted to the status of 1933, where the service sectors and agricultural sectors saw high investment and subsidy in order to recover from armament.

You can dislike dictatorship if you want, that's fine, but if you want to pretend like 'the mass' is a formative base for government then I suggest you look at the history of every democratic state prior to America - the people we took democracy from, abandoned democracy for systems of meritocracy and localized autocracy in the face of a corrupted economy, a broken bartering system, and social discord all brought on by democratic rule and institution. Trends today are not sustainable, no, and people pointing out the similarities of today's America to the Weimar era of Germany aren't being dishonest, lol, they're pointing out obvious correlations and obvious factors - we can't compare ourselves as a nation in terms of chronological history to the various nations of Europe, lol, we're a nation less than 400 years old but within that short 400 years we've gone through as many repeated periods of economic hardship & social discord as the average European state, a millennia older than our own.

Fucks' sake, the Fed structure today is essentially MEFO bills + Weimar inflation and you're going to tell me we haven't just looped ourselves into a different playground with the same sociological and cultural issues? We're in the process of commercializing and subsidizing any entity in the country that's reasonably "too big to fail" and have chosen to generate mass liquidity based on that pyramid scheme, lol. How is this different from MEFO? Coffers and treasuries were bought to shorten the yield gap, and we bought corporate debt in order to prevent corporations from failing - half of our economic scheme relies on invisible mass-liquidity and the fact that we are far more well-placed in the global economic system to generate liquidity due to our being a global fucking investment broker than Germany was. Again, how is this different from MEFO?

We've a long ways to go before we reach the 'Rubicon' and I would suggest that young Americans who feel subjugated in the face of the Cathedral look inward and work on themselves - being a social leper isn't going to help you, being fucking weird isn't going to help you, being physically unfit isn't going to fucking help you, and having no sense of personal identity isn't going to help you and that isn't something they've stripped from you nor have they stripped your ability to build that personal identity from you: the more one declines to work on themselves, the more they're just giving themselves over to the decays of today lol.

Work on yourself and avoid the diatribes one easily gets themselves sucked into because going into a listless diatribe to the average American about how 'cultural marxism' has seized the trends of progressivism today isn't going to do anything but get the weird fucking looks one earns by doing that exceptional shit; the average person is defined by what is tangible and presently impacting their lives and I'd say "just wait" on that much considering the trends of today aren't getting any better, they're simply getting worse and beginning to extend to the average American in an economic sense, forcing the average American to consider his bread & butter - in addition, you have a media complex that's doing everything it can to apparently radicalize the white man by isolating him into a corner, destroying every cultural institution he's ever known all while plastering the reduction of responsibility for non-white folk in fucking mass-murder right on television for the average white man to see and "???" in response.

Most of our work isn't done by us, it's done by the people who hate us - work on yourself, and let the rest fall into place all while being personally prepared for whatever comes, including absolutely fuck all and nothing (but we've crescendo'd past the valley of return in a socioeconomic sense and the only way these trends are going to reverse themselves now is literal magic and the waving of a socioeconomic wand that placates the myriad conflicting worries of everyone.) and that's the only way you're going to find any sort of solace in the middle of this cultural funhouse.

I'm open-minded. And I agree that the time for ending democracy is not yet, the ways-of-life determine the morals of a population. Fat and lazy men do not make great and virtuous societies, hard times and adapting to the hard times alone makes a virtuous people. I fear hard times are coming, but they are not yet here.

Sorry for being a doomer, I'm no leader so I've only my pessimisms. Once there is a movement, then I'll perk up.

As I just said, work on you and cease worrying about everything else because worrying about the uncontrollable is only going to drive you up the sort of wall that has no ceiling attached - 'great' leadership is pragmatic and bases itself upon the circumstances of the given moment and that said, 'great' leadership is going to tell folk to observe, learn, and work on themselves until problems actually arrive -matters very fucking little how well-aware of the problems one is if they aren't physically and psychologically equipped to deal with the circumstantial hardships of those problems.

Too much self-awareness is a plague on the brain.

We hate big government, we hate government socialist programs, and we hate the strongmen who try to implement it. We are the types who wish a government so small "to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub".

You hate it, sure, but federally-funded social welfare programs saved quite a few American asses, including the asses of Americans who absolutely hate social welfare programs - you can hate it all you want but if it ends up being what saves your ass during a time of crisis, then your hatred must not go very fucking far beyond a limited, ill-informed scope & perspective of what social welfare is and isn't. Suddenly it's relevant if you're in need.

 

[Haim Arlosoroff]

Dude, your whole schtick is "wouldn't it be great if things are way shittier than what they are so we could get Nazis?".

Saying a man wants something because he understands cause and effect is infantile, I wish you would do better.

Not only is it nowhere near that bad but, as I said earlier, National Socialism failed spectacularly when tried.

Again, and again. You hear things are bad, and I'm saying things could be trending bad. I assume you understand the difference? I've clarified more than once. Its getting tiresome, you acting like you can criticize failure and then failing to read.

I said I conceded that things are nowhere near bad but are getting rather bad and quick.

That isn't going to find a whole lotta takers in the American Right. We hate big government, we hate government socialist programs, and we hate the strongmen who try to implement it. We are the types who wish a government so small "to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub".

Libertarianism is childish in high population densities, while it is the optimal solution in lower population densities because it is the most organic and sincere system it does not function in Chicago so whites left in the 60s. You can swear up and down to those values but they are not going to survive once the cities begin to suffer. Your neighbors are not going to care how much you love freedom, when they need order.

I'm telling you this so that you can adapt to what will come not because, and hear this dumb dumb, of the current conditions but because of what could suddenly arise out of worsening shortages and literally senile government. Disorder cannot be solved by a lack of government. Best of luck, your idealism is not even abstractly repugnant to me. You will never understand that. People are going to look for a savour, and you're going to be arguing about toast licencing.

MEFO bills were a temporary precursor to the military-industrial complex that Germany built to sustain themselves throughout the war - you can't really disdain a war economy considering a war economy is what literally brought the United States out of depression and into great power status; no, a war economy is not a permanently sustainable economy but to imply this was the entire basis of Reich economics is fucking laughable when one understands that the German war economy was only truly rolling and on-the-ground long into the beginning of Barbarossa and only by 1943 did the German war economy have real mainlined production (incidentally when steel shortages also began to pinch assembly lines.)

Are we going to have an argument about Hjalmar Schacht at some point? The Rentenmark and the Mefo bills were brilliant strokes of economic art, and his resignation in November 1937 as Reichsminister of Economics and General Plenipotentiary was the sole end of the 3rd Reich in my opinion. There is no miracle economy save for the nationalist banker Hjalmar Schacht. Even the Haavara Agreement was his idea, truly a great servant to his people. I wish Hitler had listened to him.

As I just said, work on you and cease worrying about everything else because worrying about the uncontrollable is only going to drive you up the sort of wall that has no ceiling attached - 'great' leadership is pragmatic and bases itself upon the circumstances of the given moment and that said, 'great' leadership is going to tell folk to observe, learn, and work on themselves until problems actually arrive -matters very fucking little how well-aware of the problems one is if they aren't physically and psychologically equipped to deal with the circumstantial hardships of those problems.

Too much self-awareness is a plague on the brain.

Maybe, you are probably wise to think so. I'll leave this and instead spend time with family. I hope to be ready should things continue as they are.

 

[ColtWalker1847]

@Evo

Fucks' sake, the Fed structure today is essentially MEFO bills + Weimar inflation and you're going to tell me we haven't just looped ourselves into a different playground with the same sociological and cultural issues?

Are you this retarded? I used MEFO bills as an example as to why their economic system sucked dicks. Ya missed the point.

Also, lol. "They got the economy going by 1943. Just in time to lose the war!" Yeah, the war they shouldn't have began. Guess why they had to? They were bankrupt. They couldn't kick the can down the road any longer. It was either used the war machine they had built on loan or lose it.

 

[Just A Butt]

i heard Trump was fat and probably wants to fuck his daughter

 

[Evo]

@Evo

Are you this retarded? I used MEFO bills as an example as to why their economic system sucked dicks. Ya missed the point.

Also, lol. "They got the economy going by 1943. Just in time to lose the war!" Yeah, the war they shouldn't have began. Guess why they had to? They were bankrupt. They couldn't kick the can down the road any longer. It was either used the war machine they had built on loan or lose it.

gonna be honest, m8, probably am that retarded right now, still half-asleep, but, I digress, it was mostly just a jab at the unsustainability of the Fed as is.

War was inevitable for a litany of reasons beyond a desire for more dirt, lol, strategic choice was to pre-empt the development of German rivals like France and the Soviet Union, who themselves had intentions to try to overwhelm the fuck out of Germany after the Reich & USSR had halved Poland. As for practicality of winning the war, that's an entirely different debate which leads to a long-list of spergpoints that armchair historians on both sides have argued over since 1955; war with the Soviets was inevitable as I just said, whether or not Hitler himself began the war - allowing Stalin to proceed with full modernization instead of seizing the moment when the Soviets had just lost 200,000+ soldiers to the Finnish of all people in a grand display of their military incompetence would've assuredly likely led to a red Europe in larger ways than 1945 ever did.

War with France was also a nigh-guarantee by 1943 too, lol, considering even during the days of Neville screaming 'PEACE IN OUR TIME', the majority of French military staff continuously backed the idea of striking Germany due to the failure of the Versailles reparations, through which the French economy massively benefited in foreign stimulus; in regards to some of that soil? Gonna be honest, friendo, if America had been disgracefully defeated in a massive international conflict and was forced to cede a state or two to the enemies it faced in that international conflict, I think we would try at least once to reclaim those lost states, lol - can't deny the fact there was a massive deficit in 1939 thanks to the costs of attempting to achieve autarky, however this was also around the implementation of the first major Reichswerke programs and IG Farben had gone the extra length of denying rayon production until cheap, affordable credit was provided to them..overall pretty intelligent gip from the German corporate sector at the time, worked in maintaining streamlined pace of synthetic rubber production until outbreak in 1939. Pointing out "man they had to declare war, they were bankrupt!" just brings me back to my original point: the United States also revived itself and crawled out of the holes of depression with a massive war economy, lol, isolationism would not have served the industrial sector of the U.S. very well past 1950 without stimulus.

Are we going to have an argument about Hjalmar Schacht at some point? The Rentenmark and the Mefo bills were brilliant strokes of economic art, and his resignation in November 1937 as Reichsminister of Economics and General Plenipotentiary was the sole end of the 3rd Reich in my opinion. There is no miracle economy save for the nationalist banker Hjalmar Schacht. Even the Haavara Agreement was his idea, truly a great servant to his people. I wish Hitler had listened to him.

I already have arguments with people about Schacht although I like the guy too, but MEFO bills were brilliant to a point and that was it - past that point they'd draw closer toward the point of genuine catastrophe - I'm more of a Feder kind of guy myself.

 

[Skitzels]

The only solution is to make the Romanian Revolution look like a joke

 

[Just A Butt]

The only solution is to make the Romanian Revolution look like a joke

ok, go ahead and get started, we are right behind you

 

[Skitzels]

ok, go ahead and get started, we are right behind you

I’ll get my minecraft base ready.

Edit: here’s the meeting spot. Glowies will be banned on sight!

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

i heard Trump was fat and probably wants to fuck his daughter

Not just that, but that he was a meanie who demanded 2 scoops of ice cream for dinner while everyone else at the table was only served one. PLUS he eats fried chicken with a fork, and steak well done with ketchup. Plus he’s got a micropenis with a mushroom head and wears a wig because he’s so vain. I also heard he’s a total bigot even though he’s totally gay and is Putin’s bottom boy. That’s just what I can remember off the top of my head, though. It’s been a while.

 

[The Magnificence]

Reading the constant, unironic flow of right wing cope without so much as a hint of self awareness on a lolcow board is entertaining as hell.

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

First off, I’m not “on the Right” or “on the Left” or anything else. I’m just here. Second, if you’re asking “what’s to be done?”, the answer is “nothing” as far as the big picture goes. There’s nothing any of us can do about any of the big picture shit except prepare ourselves and those we care about for hard times when AND IF they come. Nothing lasts forever, Good times don’t last forever and bad times don’t last forever. All we can do is try and get as ready as we can to weather whatever storm might be coming and come out the other side in one piece.

 

[Just A Butt]

i also heard that he goes braaaaaaaaaap into his bedsheets and giggles

 

[Lorne Armstrong]

i also heard that he goes braaaaaaaaaap into his bedsheets and giggles

Yep. I heard that and I also heard he likes to waste his time watching Animal Planet all day.
Plus he’s addicted to Diet Coke and McDonald’s milkshakes. He has tiny hands and is really insecure about it. Actually, I heard he’s insecure about just about everything. He never made any of his own money. He got that from his daddy, and wouldn’t even have a college degree if it wasn’t for his daddy because he’s so stoopid.

 

[Just A Butt]

i just now saw Tucker in the poll and i'd like to take this opportunity to say TUCKER 2024! WOOOO!

 

[NeoGAF Lurker]

If the last two years has demonstrated anything, it’s that the conservative’s first instinct is to cuck. For years I heard of this red line where people would get mad as hell and not gonna take it anymore! Then the left and neoliberals freely crossed that line and conservatives just coped by LARPing as multidimensional chessmasters while they kept losing ground. That or them preening to said left and neoliberals about how dey jus good boys: “Yas sah, Massa Shlomo! Us good boys only want low taxes, I don’t want no family or community! Except for Israel, dats right, Massa.”

So when conservatives talk about pushing back, just assume they’re going to do jack shit and move on.

 

[LeChampion1992]

We need to elect Hitlers ghost into office and everything will be fixed.

Now realistically - knock on doors, get out and win local elections, school board, city council seats, mayors office, county judge, superintendent seats. Literally tyranny starts local and how did Portland antifascist activists take control of the city? They started locally. Start taking city council seats start taking the DAs seat and eventually you'll find yourself running the county or area of the state.

Remember it might seem scary and if parents taking back school boards over crt wasn't a big deal they wouldn't be labeling you a domestic terror threat.

As for me I personally wish we could become sneering imperialists again.