What new ethnic groups and ethnic absorptions will occur by the turn of the century? -

Iwasamwillbe

A truly "Aryan" deity for the Great Huwite Summer
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Historically, new ethnic groups have been formed by the merging of otherwise different ethnicities that were geographically close to each other. For example, the Azerbaijanis were formed by the mixture of Oghuz Turks, Medes, Mannaeans, Scythians, and Caucasian Albanians (not to be confused with Balkanic Albanians, a completely different people), the Normans by a mixture of Norsemen, Franks, and Gallo-Romans in what is now Normandy, the French in general were a mixture of Celtic (Gauls), Italic (Romans), and Germanic (Franks, Visigoths, Suebi, and Burgundians) peoples, and the Bulgarians from a combination of Early South Slavs, Thracians, and the Turko-Iranian Bulgars.

Similarly, larger ethnic groups ("larger" meaning "greater in population") have absorbed smaller ethnic groups since likely the dawn of the homo sapiens. This has happened with the Goths and Early East Slavs absorbing the Scythians and Sarmatians, the Turkic ethnicities absorbing the Iranian peoples of Central Asia, the Bantu peoples absorbing various Pygmy and Khoisan peoples during their expansion, and the Han Chinese absorbing the Baiyue.

I'm wondering what kind of new ethnic groups will be formed this century, and which will end up absorbed by others.
 
Last edited:

DumbDude42

kiwifarms.net
turn of the century?
american whites near-extinct, USA is now populated predominently by a distinct new 'northern hispanic' ethnicity created by hispanic americans desiring a separate non-mexican identity

there'll probably be a bunch of "british paki" "french berber" "german syrian" type ethnicities that constitute the majority population in most of continental europe while the former native ethnicities of these countries are reduced to an existence as universally hated and despised minorities that are systematically disenfranchised and bled dry by their respective national state governments

the tibetans will have ceased to exist as a people, with tibet now being fully inhabited and controlled by han chinese. a tiny international diaspora will be all that's left of them.
similar situation with uighurs - they'll no longer exist within chinas borders, their former territories will be controlled by han chinese. remnants and refugeees of them will probably still be a thing in neighboring countries (kazakhstan)

others are too unpredictable. kurds could possibly get genocided by arabs and turks, but that's far from a certainty.
 

Chaos Theorist

It would be spiteful To put jellyfish in a trifle
kiwifarms.net
turn of the century?
american whites near-extinct, USA is now populated predominently by a distinct new 'northern hispanic' ethnicity created by hispanic americans desiring a separate non-mexican identity

there'll probably be a bunch of "british paki" "french berber" "german syrian" type ethnicities that constitute the majority population in most of continental europe while the former native ethnicities of these countries are reduced to an existence as universally hated and despised minorities that are systematically disenfranchised and bled dry by their respective national state governments

the tibetans will have ceased to exist as a people, with tibet now being fully inhabited and controlled by han chinese. a tiny international diaspora will be all that's left of them.
similar situation with uighurs - they'll no longer exist within chinas borders, their former territories will be controlled by han chinese. remnants and refugeees of them will probably still be a thing in neighboring countries (kazakhstan)

others are too unpredictable. kurds could possibly get genocided by arabs and turks, but that's far from a certainty.
Do you even know what happens in the world outside of the USA?
 

DumbDude42

kiwifarms.net
Do you even know what happens in the world outside of the USA?
im not even american, so im pretty sure i know what happens outside of the usa better than what happens in it lol

OP asked about turn of the century, which is 80 years in the future. that's a long time, more than long enough for all the things to happen that i outlined in my post - well except the kurd thing really, cause the whole situation in that area is volatile and has several big question marks on what path the future will take.
 

Crunchy Leaf

cronch
kiwifarms.net
I suspect that in the US and the west in general, there will be enough coalburning to create a distinct class analogous to South Africa's "colored" population.
Most biracial people in the US are considered black, not their own racial group. Although I do wonder what will happen to the mixed race children of white single moms. Historically obviously mixed black people, like Malcolm X, were still seen as black because they were raised in the black community.

I know a biracial guy (white mom, black dad) who abandoned his kid, who is now being raised solely by the white mother. So this child is at most a quarter black, and probably slightly less because very few black people in the US are 100%. But this girl is still going to be considered black, just a light skinned one.

And since like I said most African-Americans are not 100%, seeing who is mixed (as in: has one white parent, and not has two black parents who had a white ancestor) is much harder than in South Africa.

edit: I disagree with @DumbDude42. Hispanics who don’t live in majority Hispanic areas who are white or can pass as white —basically, anyone who could be mistaken for Sicilian American if they changed their name to Joey DiBenedetto — will intermarry with white Catholics and become part of the Vaguely Ethnic Northerner class that comprises a large percentage of white working class urban dwellers in places like New York and Massachusetts.
 
Last edited:

Lemmingwise

The capture of the last white wizard, decolorized
True & Honest Fan
kiwifarms.net
Most biracial people in the US are considered black, not their own racial group.
By white people. That's not how the average black person looks at biracial men and women. As a general rule, biracial people are considered to be part of the outgroup by both groups, though there's always plenty of people that don't put much value on whether someone is on the in or out group.
 

DumbDude42

kiwifarms.net
By white people. That's not how the average black person looks at biracial men and women. As a general rule, biracial people are considered to be part of the outgroup by both groups, though there's always plenty of people that don't put much value on whether someone is on the in or out group.
blacks call em lightskin but they're still seen as black
see: obama, beyonce, etc.
 

Crunchy Leaf

cronch
kiwifarms.net
blacks call em lightskin but they're still seen as black
see: obama, beyonce, etc.
Obama very deliberately married an African American woman from Chicago so he would get street cred that a man raised by a white mother with a Kenyan father would otherwise not get.

I also think Evangelicals will be doing a lot of outreach to disaffected second-gen Muslims, and if they become Christian they too can be Vaguely Ethnic Northerners, if they’re Arabs. (And some Muslims are already definitely white — like the ones from Kosovo — but they’re much rarer than the ones from the Levantine who could also pass as Sicilian American with a name change).
 

Dildo

#NaturalBeauty #NoFilter
kiwifarms.net
Gingers will become extinct in most countries. That's already a biological certainty. With natural blondes to follow a few centuries in the future.

Middle Eastern Christianity will cease to exist. The Patriarchate of Constantinople is already wheezing and on its last legs with the last dregs of a native Greek population alongside the mass exodus from the middle east.

Unlike the above posters, I actually think the white demographic will expand. Contrary to the woke outlook many non-white races, most notably mainland Indians and South Koreans, go to great lengths to look as "white" as possible with bleaching, plastic surgery and make up. Even loud and proud woke black people like Beyonce try to look white with how they style and present themselves. In several parts of the world today, having a white employee or a white spouse is a huge status boost. Their children might get abuse when they're younger for being half breeds, but as adults in non-white societies, they're often considered to be very beautiful.

If anything, I think you will see a trend of non-white people who can pass claiming to be white for the prestige.
 

Johan Schmidt

kiwifarms.net
Gingers will become extinct in most countries. That's already a biological certainty. With natural blondes to follow a few centuries in the future.

Middle Eastern Christianity will cease to exist. The Patriarchate of Constantinople is already wheezing and on its last legs with the last dregs of a native Greek population alongside the mass exodus from the middle east.

Unlike the above posters, I actually think the white demographic will expand. Contrary to the woke outlook many non-white races, most notably mainland Indians and South Koreans, go to great lengths to look as "white" as possible with bleaching, plastic surgery and make up. Even loud and proud woke black people like Beyonce try to look white with how they style and present themselves. In several parts of the world today, having a white employee or a white spouse is a huge status boost. Their children might get abuse when they're younger for being half breeds, but as adults in non-white societies, they're often considered to be very beautiful.

If anything, I think you will see a trend of non-white people who can pass claiming to be white for the prestige.
So...not white people then? Half breeds still aren't white. That's not the 'white demographic' unless you literally mean 'the meaning of what it is to be white will expand.'.
 

Dildo

#NaturalBeauty #NoFilter
kiwifarms.net
So...not white people then? Half breeds still aren't white. That's not the 'white demographic' unless you literally mean 'the meaning of what it is to be white will expand.'.
I think on paper the number of "Whites" will expand. If these people are actually of majority European descent or not will be another matter entirely, though people will go to great lengths to sound as if they have a more European pedigree than they actually do.

In turn, I think you'll see an even keener interest elsewhere around the world in Western/White culture as a result of this.
 

DumbDude42

kiwifarms.net
Gingers will become extinct in most countries. That's already a biological certainty. With natural blondes to follow a few centuries in the future.

Middle Eastern Christianity will cease to exist. The Patriarchate of Constantinople is already wheezing and on its last legs with the last dregs of a native Greek population alongside the mass exodus from the middle east.

Unlike the above posters, I actually think the white demographic will expand. Contrary to the woke outlook many non-white races, most notably mainland Indians and South Koreans, go to great lengths to look as "white" as possible with bleaching, plastic surgery and make up. Even loud and proud woke black people like Beyonce try to look white with how they style and present themselves. In several parts of the world today, having a white employee or a white spouse is a huge status boost. Their children might get abuse when they're younger for being half breeds, but as adults in non-white societies, they're often considered to be very beautiful.

If anything, I think you will see a trend of non-white people who can pass claiming to be white for the prestige.
"the white demographic will expand because lots of indians like to bleach their skin" is one of the most retarded takes i've seen on this entire site so far lol
 

Crunchy Leaf

cronch
kiwifarms.net
Nikki Haley wasn’t allowed in a beauty pageant as a child because they had a white category and a black category and she is neither. She looks like this.
D422013E-7A30-4180-95CC-E2978CA81BCE.jpeg
Now I realize this is absolutely a minority Indian phenotype, but people who look like this will get assimilated into whiteness.

There’s also going to be a lot more hapas (she has a white husband) who marry whites and so on until the Asianness is washed out. You need at least three generations for that; the Gosselin kids are still clearly part Asian despite being 75% white. This will be especially true if the US decides to severely restrict Asian immigration or if the US becomes undesirable to immigrate to. There’s very few full blooded Japanese Americans because there haven’t been large numbers of Japanese immigrants since the 1920s.
 

Hellbound Hellhound

kiwifarms.net
there'll probably be a bunch of "british paki" "french berber" "german syrian" type ethnicities that constitute the majority population in most of continental europe while the former native ethnicities of these countries are reduced to an existence as universally hated and despised minorities that are systematically disenfranchised and bled dry by their respective national state governments
Whites aren't going to become a minority in Europe. Check out any credible academic research into demography, and you'll quickly find that the alarmist projections you hear being reported by the right-wing press are almost entirely factually baseless.
Gingers will become extinct in most countries. That's already a biological certainty. With natural blondes to follow a few centuries in the future.
This is an urban myth. The ginger extinction/disappearing blonde gene hypotheses have been reported as fact on various occasions in the media, but neither have any basis as far as the science is concerned. From the standpoint of population genetics, allele frequency doesn't change unless selection pressures do, and there is no evidence that blonde/red hair are being selected against.

If anything, the data seems to show the opposite, as white people are reportedly the least likely group to "marry out" of their race according to Pew Research:
Interracial marriage by race.JPG
 

Similar threads

A study by Ivan Tanev Ivanov, providing evidence that Albanians are not descended from Illyrians (as they so often claim), but from Eastern Iranian Scytho-Sarmatian peoples
Replies
37
Views
3K
Those with connections to the Second Battle of Fallujah discuss the Middle East in media and mistrust of the US military, and ask who the game will actually ask players to empathize with.
Replies
51
Views
5K
Top