What purpose do drag queens actually serve other than being a Lolcow? - Drag Queen Discussion

[Iron Jaguar]

I prefer the show Arthur with the inclusion of pedophile propaganda intended to normalise same sex couples in society. It’s gently grooming kids in a way their parents might not notice.

FTFY

 

[cum4me]

like most things LGBTQ2IA+ associated, its just those fucking fag's fetish...

 

[Trapitalism]

Because Weimerica.

Never understood why drag is on such a pedestal in the fag community when it's a mockery of female stereotypes and ultra femininity. If anything it's extremely anti-femenist.

Wtf I love drag queens now.

 

[Old Sun World]

Degeneracy begets more degeneracy. What purpose do degenerates serve? to accelerate the collapse of society and culture for the final take over by evil forces that want to enslave humanity and bring upon the end of times by merging everyone with demons who feed on the negative energies that these demon priests known as LGBT+ people harvest from innocent souls. You are either degenerate or you are not, there is no difference between a faggot and a pedo in my mind, both deserve to be expelled from society for the betterment of everyone else.

 

[Iron Jaguar]

, there is no difference between a faggot and a pedo in my mind, both deserve to be expelled from society for the betterment of everyone else.

They're two sides of the same coin.

 

[Dustlord]

They're two sides of the same coin.

Obviously "NOTALL" but its really no surprise that the pedo acceptance movement piggybacked on the LGBT thing.
After all, some of the oldest accounts of homosexual behavior in humans were pedophillic.

Spoiler: Ancient greek art depicting it

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Obviously "NOTALL" but its really no surprise that the pedo acceptance movement piggybacked on the LGBT thing.
After all, some of the oldest accounts of homosexual behavior in humans were pedophillic.

Spoiler: Ancient greek art depicting it

The vast majority of pedophiles are men who molest boys i.e. homosexuals.

 

[cum4me]

The vast majority of pedophiles are men who molest boys i.e. homosexuals.

exactly. like most things, didn't become a stereotype for no reason.

 

[StraightShooter2]

They make normal people feel better about themselves.

The vast majority of pedophiles are men who molest boys i.e. homosexuals.

Right, male children are molested at a disproportionately high rate - the counter-argument I've heard is that pedophiles primarily prey on children without regard to their sex, just the fact that they're a child.

However, in practice this is something of a play on words, and pretends that people can - in practice - completely differentiate all of the different "desires" coming into play (meaning that there is no reason that a pedophile couldn't specifically prefer to prey on male children, or that some of the same desires couldn't also co-exist with non-pedophile homosexuality as well).

It also doesn't help that LGBT as a "movement" or ideology has had documented ties to NAMBLA and pro-pedophile groups as recent as the 1990s:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Man/Boy_Love_Association#ILGA_controversy

 

[Vault]

I don't like Drag stuff, it's just not my thing. But I've met many who enjoy it and see it like a sort of entertainment/live show thing. They pay to see these people and expect a character and comedy to go with it. It just makes me think of Pantomimes with an adult and often sexual twist thrown in.

I guess at Pride they like to be seen as fashion queens and comic relief.

 

[behindyourightnow]

I don't like Drag stuff, it's just not my thing. But I've met many who enjoy it and see it like a sort of entertainment/live show thing. They pay to see these people and expect a character and comedy to go with it. It just makes me think of Pantomimes with an adult and often sexual twist thrown in.

I guess at Pride they like to be seen as fashion queens and comic relief.

That's what it is and it's existed for decades. A lot of people in this thread who only heard of drag last year and have decided it's a terrifying new fetish sweeping the nation.

I don't particularly like drag but it is an old and well-established performance art that, like everything else, is progressively getting muscled out by transgender stuff.

 

[Education Lottery]

I have no idea why they're not treated the same way furries are.

TECHNICALLY furries don't all dress up in fursuits because they find sweaty, oversized, disproportional, poor imitations of their fursonas sexy but a good chunk still do. Do people think furries in-costume should be role models for kids? Absolutely not. Everyone nowadays knows it's a big fetish thing.
Drag queens are worse. They're a man's cheap interpretation of femininity taken to an extreme and somehow this gets a pass because not all drag queens view it as a sex thing but it clearly is. At least furries dress up like cartoon animals and not like a 2/10 succubi cosplayer.
Their aggressive promotion is simply part of the downfall of the LGBT movement. They permitted degeneracy to infiltrate the movement and since being anti-sex in any way is considered problematic in the LGBTQ+ movement, they now have to justify and excuse it. Drag queens have some sort of "not-all" argument compared to the guys walking around with pup masks so they're the natural best candidate for the job.

This is a thunkful post.

Comparing alphabet people with furries is very on point considering 70% of furries aren't straight. The furry fandom is extremely flamboyant judging by having any interest in fursuits alone. It's also very competitive, high income furries will spend 5000 - 10000 dollars on a fursuit from a premium maker. If you are so inclined, when you go to fur conventions, you can flex on the plebs with shitty suits and the fursuitless cretins with your Rolex-equivalent of a fursuit.

Drag is very competitive as well, because men are men and that's what men do. The bitchy attitudes, the craftsmanship that goes into making luxury drag costumes and doing make up with premium make up brands made specifically for drag queens, the shit talk on the ugliest of drag queens by the high clout ones. All that and so many more similarities.

I remember some Alphabet-Centers having furry flags flying on the outside, similar to how the leather fetish flag would be out there. Not as a separate alphabet, but a subculture within the sexuality.
Honestly, with the number of furries who do crossplay flying around out there, I'm surprised there isn't furry drag. There's probably been SOME, but not enough to be prevalent. Then again, most of those furries now consider themselves trans and identify as their foxgirl OC on a daily basis. Leave it to furries to skip 200 steps, I guess.

I was going to say that they make a mockery of women but you put it better.

Using Leftie logic, I'm surprised that drag is still even a thing because I thought that feminists would oppose to men dressing up as grossly exaggerated images of women. Lefties hate it if you have a Native American headdress on so why are they cool with people in drag?

Put simply, it's cuz they're gay. If straight guys were the ones in drag, it would stop being a thing in 2010.

To be fair, there are straight guys in drag. But, they ID as trannies to get their pass.

 

[Vault]

I remember some Alphabet-Centers having furry flags flying on the outside, similar to how the leather fetish flag would be out there. Not as a separate alphabet, but a subculture within the sexuality.
Honestly, with the number of furries who do crossplay flying around out there, I'm surprised there isn't furry drag. There's probably been SOME, but not enough to be prevalent. Then again, most of those furries now consider themselves trans and identify as their foxgirl OC on a daily basis. Leave it to furries to skip 200 steps, I guess.



To be fair, there are straight guys in drag. But, they ID as trannies to get their pass.

Gosh, I wonder if you might mean the Bear flag. The brown one with the black paw on it. If It wasn't for seeing the community on the inside I'd definitely have thought that was a furry thing. I haven't yet seen any 'official' furry flags, but they definitely tend to show up at pride a lot and the fandom has so many lgbt people I'm not surprised. Plus the costumes give a vague sense of anonomity to those not in the furry know.

There's definitely furry drag but it's more akin to those anime 'maskers'. Usually older dudes wearing outfits of their female characters with big tits and all that. Some of them tend to be horribly over-sexualized and do full on murrsuit porn videos on their suits, with massive balloon tits. Others tend to actually have kinda sweet outfits that don't come across as entirely fetish fuel related. The closest thing I can think of stereotypical drag is characters like this

That said, most maskers at conventions seem chill too until you realize the tail is hanging under the belt.

 

[Jack Awful]

At this point I think they're just trying to trick parents into leaving their children with pedophiles and having the kids trust them and not tell the parents about the rape.

 

[Education Lottery]

Gosh, I wonder if you might mean the Bear flag. The brown one with the black paw on it. If It wasn't for seeing the community on the inside I'd definitely have thought that was a furry thing. I haven't yet seen any 'official' furry flags, but they definitely tend to show up at pride a lot and the fandom has so many lgbt people I'm not surprised. Plus the costumes give a vague sense of anonomity to those not in the furry know.

There's definitely furry drag but it's more akin to those anime 'maskers'. Usually older dudes wearing outfits of their female characters with big tits and all that. Some of them tend to be horribly over-sexualized and do full on murrsuit porn videos on their suits, with massive balloon tits. Others tend to actually have kinda sweet outfits that don't come across as entirely fetish fuel related. The closest thing I can think of stereotypical drag is characters like this

That said, most maskers at conventions seem chill too until you realize the tail is hanging under the belt.

That's actually what drew my attention to it when my friend showed me a photo of it since it came up in the conversation. "Why are there two bear flags?" I thought it was new a bear variant, with usual the rainbow flag and the paw in the middle they thought the same, but got corrected when they asked someone in the center about it. I don't think there's an 'official' gay furry flag, but that what it was explained to be. Mind you, this was in Portland...

I'm having flashbacks to a vintage cow that had a comic about putting on a fursuit of a female fox and groping himself. Makes me wonder where he is now, but that's off-topic.

 

[Dumb Bitch Smoothie]

The whole obsession with drag queens (and the female fans especially) have a certain breed of autism that's hard to find anywhere else. Absolutely bonkers how these people can build their personality around a subculture yet still have nothing of substance to put on the table.

A few drag queens are chill af and actually provide performance art that isn't just the same shit recycled (Pearl comes to mind, good at makeup and characters and not just being himself dressed as a woman), but some don't go beyond tying their nuts back and putting on a wig and dress expecting people to give them money.

The obsession with how absolutely disrespectful some of them can be under the guise of "drag queen culture" is so strange. Most of these people who are fans virtue signal like crazy all over their social media but fail to remember that they're throwing money at rich white guys who only get richer by being passive aggressively racist and sexist.

 

[CryoRevival #SJ-112]

Drag was considered by the general public for a long time (Before There was even a B in LGBT) to be a relatively harmless sideshow, because it was a microculture which kept largely to itself but was happy for you to come and interact with it.

Then in the 80s & 90s it was kind of a 'safe' engagement with debauchery with films such as Pruscilla, Queen of the Desert and The Bird Cage presenting the performers as very human with identities separate from the Drag shows.

Not unlike the carnival, the freaks are there doing freaky stuff, and the hint of danger is strangely appealing, but for the most part, it's a safe (though not family friendly) entertainment.

Because it is a culture of extreme, larger than life, hyper sexualized, crazy, zany, personalities, it is fun to watch and then go home to your wage cage, and the performers, one likes to think, do the same thing.

Its quite uncomfortable when the adult topics start interacting with children, especially when there is a sexual element to it. There's nothing wrong with Adult only entertainment/culture, but just as it would be weird for any of the characters from the Sopranos or Warhammer 40k to come to life and read to children in character, its weird here too.

TLR, Drags modern incarnation has been around for a long time and was generally harmless to those who were just visiting for a drunken evening show. + People can only empathise with people they share some ground with.

 

[Kornula]

One bit of history that is missing about Drag is the fact Drag queens actually served a vital function in gay bars; they would organize a collection plate for emergency releif funds (pre-Stonewall) to help bail out its patrons who were put in jail for being in a gay bar..They would also use the emergency funds they collected - every single night - to help a kid who ran away ..or was kicked out of their home ...for being gay to help set up that kid for a new life in the big city. ...and they did shitty lip sync every night.

After Stonewall (50 years ago), they lost that position..but somehow, they managed to convince the gay "community" they were still "vital". Not sure how..but we have Ru Paul now...sigh

 

[GeorgeFloyd]

Bunch of fags dressing up and they all end up looking like MiMi from Drew Carrey

 

[Jazz never died!]

like most things LGBTQ2IA+ associated, its just those fucking fag's fetish...

Not forgetting its now a group devided. Those who try to normalize creppy fetishes and pedophilia and the hangerons who don't understand that normal society has gay and trans rights to a point. Then the trannies who even the gays hate because they don't want to fuck the opposite gender. I mean for fuck sakes i'm Bi and i won't date a trannie because I'm expecting one thing and i get another that and most look ugly and have mental problems. Good god the lgbt..... are now trying to get rid of gender because of the trannies and its working if evident in gaming. Then they bitch because the trans shit wasn't voiced by a trans and it wasn't a fetish. Fuck em and fuck the ever increasing irrelvancy of that group. Happy gay pride month that corps had embraced.