What the fuck even is Hegalian philosophy and the dialectic anyway? -

[Just Dont]

I won't exactly describe Hegalian view of history as "cyclical"; rather his view is that the engine of dialectics is in operation throughout history, much like gravity is the "operating system" throughout the Newtonian universe.

You are absolutely correct, but it is really difficult to comprehend in practical terms Hegel Philosophy and I believe that saying that Hegel believed in determinism&fatalism and that that is the way he explained the shift of political discourse in History is the causality of said determinism&fatalism is ever present in all period of History and every society that borns from conflicts and power strugglers.

And yeah, there is also the "pendulum" angle that when a society reaches it maximum expansion or accomplishment it innevitable swings down to the extreme of the current ideology. We can see this in many examples: Romans, WW2, Neoliberalism in the 90's and even today with the whole PC culture and SJW.

I'm not sure if Hegel envisaged that a perfect world will ever be achieved (Newton, after all, did not postulate that matters and motion will reach a perfect state from which no further motion is necessary), although the Frankfurt School talked about utopia all the time.

I don't believe Hegel had an Utopia. His thesis is like Doomer shit where everything will eventually go to shit and a century later will repeat the same process.

 

[Positron]

It may be true that CRT practitioners come from a Marxist academic background and use Marxist language, but that's because academia happens to be full of Marxists, and pseudo-Marxist cant is just the lingua franca of the trade. But the idea that the 20th-century American conception of race is (or should be) central to everything is found nowhere in Marx.

Race may not have much to do with Marx, but the premises and logic of CRT does follow Marxism closely, in particular:

• Both theories position one group, who have all the institutional power, against another, who have none.
• Both theories see power as oppressive (unlike say Foucault, who thinks power can be both oppressive and liberating, destructive and generative).
• Both theories blame their own failure on the stupidity of people (more politely, due to the oppressed being enticed by false conscious, or hegemony), hence the most important task is "conscious raising".

So I think it is more than just post-hoc justification; instead Marx is so deeply ingrained in the minds of humanities academics that everything they generates can't help replicating Marxism. This is incidentally an example of Foucauldian generative power at work: a discourse giving birth to related discourses.

 

[Kosher Dill]

Race may not have much to do with Marx, but the premises and logic of CRT does follow Marxism closely, in particular:

• Both theories position one group, who have all the institutional power, against another, who have none.
• Both theories see power as oppressive (unlike say Foucault, who thinks power can be both oppressive and liberating, destructive and generative).
• Both theories blame their own failure on the stupidity of people (more politely, due to the oppressed being enticed by false conscious, or hegemony), hence the most important task is "conscious raising".

I wouldn't call those points distinctively Marxist though, you could just as easily say the same about Christianity as well - the original "fight the power" movement.

 

[Autistic AT-ST]

The dialectic is basically this from what I understand:

Parties A and B exist and have most of the power in an environment.
Party C takes over both sides though whatever means necessary to achieve their aims.
Party C then creates a manufactured conflict with a pre-determined outcome.
Party C then proceeds to sabotage, undermine, or ignore any proposed alternatives, regardless of effectiveness.
Party C then forces both parties to accept their pre-determined solutions to the manufactured conflict.

Party C's plans play out and both parties A and B are utterly destroyed, leaving Power C holding all the power in the brief power vacuum created by the manufactured conflict.

 

[VIPPER?]

Get this. There's a bear AND a bull