What to expect from the next 20 years? (2021 - 2040)

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Drag-on Knight 91873

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Sexbots is the weirdest thing I've ever heard. I could afford one, but WHY WOULD I?!

Who is getting off on banging a pile of metal? What is this? It's like banging your pillow or something. Robots will never replace human sex. The fact people are living humans is the reason it's even good to begin with.
The appeal is the bot doesn't #metoo you afterwards. Also doesn't divorce you or turn into a Karen in the next 5 years.
 

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I don't know much about Brazil frankly, but if the police are largely ineffective at investigating crimes, that goes both ways and the old shoot shovel and shut up strategy would likely work fine there if I had to guess.

If you think white people don't have the balls to form ethnic gangs you haven't paid much attention to western history, and likely think that white people will be the same as they are now in a dystopian future where there is no real prosperity or guarantee that the authorities will actually protect you, which is absurd. What you'll actually see is groups like the Aryan Nation forming outside of prisons instead.

The gun stuff isn't going to matter one way or another if there is no effective law enforcement, people will just ignore the laws and acquire firearms to protect themselves and their interests regardless.

The Desmond thing is likely going to lead to a massive scandal, lawsuits, and eventual prison time for at least a few of the people involved at some point.

You keep going with white gangs and the RWDS larp and yet how many of those white militias everyone been talking about since clinton were present at last years riots?

Zero, just a sperg with a M4 against a pedo, a sk8er soyboy and some guy who will be fapping to cuck porn with his left hand from now on. Thats all, and this in places were the police was basically told to fuck off by the authorities. Meanwhile neocons keep sucking dick and flying blue line flags, give me a fucking break I couldnt make this shit up if I tried.

The gun stuff will matter because while cops wont be there to protect you from the gangs they will sure act when you use your gun which is legal to own but not to use. Why? because getting the gangs takes a lot of risky work and they could get shit on if its a minority. But you? what you gonna do? rant on the internet? so scary! you have a fixed address, you have a job, you have something to lose, you're an easy target for the state

And you're delusional if you think anyone has the balls to help that troonie kid desmond, they're gonna let him be raped to death before risking the rage of the lgbtbbqwtf lobby
 

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You keep going with white gangs and the RWDS larp and yet how many of those white militias everyone been talking about since clinton were present at last years riots?

Zero, just a sperg with a M4 against a pedo, a sk8er soyboy and some guy who will be fapping to cuck porn with his left hand from now on. Thats all, and this in places were the police was basically told to fuck off by the authorities. Meanwhile neocons keep sucking dick and flying blue line flags, give me a fucking break I couldnt make this shit up if I tried.

The gun stuff will matter because while cops wont be there to protect you from the gangs they will sure act when you use your gun which is legal to own but not to use. Why? because getting the gangs takes a lot of risky work and they could get shit on if its a minority. But you? what you gonna do? rant on the internet? so scary! you have a fixed address, you have a job, you have something to lose, you're an easy target for the state

And you're delusional if you think anyone has the balls to help that troonie kid desmond, they're gonna let him be raped to death before risking the rage of the lgbtbbqwtf lobby
You assume that white people will just passively take all this horrible stuff happening to them in your vision of the future, and I'm telling you that they won't, because no group of people would. Also, the Aryan Nation is a real gang and are currently active in prisons mostly. That will change if most people wind up poor and un/underemployed. You will very quickly see gangs like that become a big fucking thing in your scenario, not whitey remaining a bunch of easily victimized working/middle-class chumps.

You also assume that white people in this dystopian future will not be in gangs of their own because they currently aren't, that doesn't work, people change in response to their circumstances. Cops won't show up to investigate some random white dude who shoots someone who tries to rob his house or store in your scenario because that white person will have a group of other white people who are willing to shoot at and kill police officers who try and arrest members of their group, and most police resources will be focused on defending various wealthy areas instead. Also white people as a group won't have easily targeted fixed addresses or jobs they can be targeted at if the ass falls out of the economy for the average person because of automation, they'll be doing temporary contract work at most and probably won't have an easy to find house in the suburbs or something like that.

Nobody will care about the shrieking of the LGBTQ lobby if solid evidence of child rape emerges. You should be arguing that any such evidence will be carefully concealed instead.
 
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Income disparity will continue to worsen, obviously. Probably no real middle class by then.

The West will be a gigantic multicultural dystopia where nobody feels connected one another. So, like now but even more dire. Everyone is an equally poor wage slave working for either Amazon, Walmart or Target. No more small businesses, except for ethots.

The future is bright!
 

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Income disparity will continue to worsen, obviously. Probably no real middle class by then.

The West will be a gigantic multicultural dystopia where nobody feels connected one another. So, like now but even more dire. Everyone is an equally poor wage slave working for either Amazon, Walmart or Target. No more small businesses, except for ethots.

The future is bright!
Don't forget no entertainment outlets and how the children will be as fragile as wet tissue paper because their immune system isn't allowed to develop. Can't go around killing each other, after all! Stay home and save lives-- forever!!
 

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a gigantic multicultural dystopia where nobody feels connected one another
That's what I noticed about modern life in the typical American city: it's atomizing and anonymizing. No real community - despite the leftist obsession with the word - and technology is all that keeps things going. Which is why I compared modern urban "society" to a machine-animated corpse - a cyberzombie.

As for the "melting pot", all the cultures in it are being melted into a bland cultureless mix of corporate office buildings and Ford Transit delivery vans.
 

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I expect life for most people in North America to become more insular and localized, and for the standard of living to shift backwards in some ways. Whether this turns out to be a good or bad thing for individuals is highly variable; for some, reduced expectations and consumption will be a godsend, while for others who can't adapt, it will be a major comedown.

Multi-generational living arrangements, with grandparents, parents, kids, and perhaps even the kids' own kids, will become increasingly normal. When families can't afford to maintain 2-4 separate households, they'll consolidate, sharing the expenses and work of keeping one large household running. We've already had over a decade of "boomerang kids" returning home because they're too burdened by student loans, and make too little, to afford living on their own. Also, in some cities, there has been a surge in construction of ADUs--Accessory Dwelling Units--in the backyards of single-family homes, as well as "in-law" apartments in existing houses. Some new residential construction is laid out in a way that would work well for multiple adults living under one roof (such as two master suites) and I think we're going to see more of that, in both new construction and remodeling. Or it could be as simple as parking a trailer or two in the backyard and sharing common spaces within the house.

And it doesn't even need to be family; I can see unrelated individuals coming together in arrangements that are more formal than just roommates--more like intentional communities on a small scale, oriented around shared resources and mutual assistance.

To an extent, this kind of arrangement already exists with those awful pod apartments in places like SF--and I definitely see an increase in those--but I also see lower-density versions, where the residents are owners, in a permanent arrangement. Any one of them might not be able to afford a small house, but if multiple people come together to buy a large house to share, they might be able to swing it.

And in situations like that, especially with a lot of people working from home more, a household might choose to have only one car, shared by everybody, instead of individual car ownership for each adult.

Cultivating some degree of self-sufficiency, and a return to learning basic practical life skills is, I think, going to be a big deal in the coming decade. There's already a growing interest in skills like mending or repurposing clothes, and repairing things; the sourdough bread baking craze that hit at the beginning of the pandemic may grow legs and encourage a revival in home cooking skills. If we have extended supply-chain disruptions, growing food plants indoors (perhaps hydroponically), or cultivating backyard (or even front yard) gardens, will become common. Cottagecore may finally become something more than just an Instagram aesthetic.

On the other hand, you'll also have urban-dwellers who go the opposite way and become increasingly reliant on delivery for everything. It's already started under the lockdowns, but I see it accelerating.

So many sit-down restaurants have closed for good since the lockdowns started, and I don't see them rebounding anytime toon. What I do see taking off are restaurants that are strictly takeout and delivery. By completely cutting the costs of having a dining area with waitstaff, and only having a kitchen, a restaurant could put out really good food and stay in business--especially if they can establish an engaging social media presence. For some people, their favorite restaurant may end up being the one that only exists as a kitchen space, that they never set foot in, but that is the most fun to interact with online.

Food trucks have been really popular in cities in recent years, but expect them to be even more so. A food truck can be moved to where customers are--and away from civil unrest. Commercial real estate--especially office space--is going to go into the shitter, but renting out otherwise-empty parking lots to multiple food trucks, creating informal "food courts," is one way property owners can bring in income, and, by becoming a destination, perhaps attract new tenants.
 

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As technology continues to improve cybernetics becomes a thing. With the reliance people already have on computers and technology, they begin to add apparatuses to and within their bodies that will support their computer/phone use in some way or improve their mental processing or senses, give them new forms of senses etc. Gradually people become so enmeshed with computers and tech they become cyborgs, or transhumans. Division arises between those who have implemented tech and those who have not. Transhumans see original humans and inferior and primitive, while original humans see transhumans as snobby, wussy, and too heavily reliant on tech.
 

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Long ass college essay in my predictions

USA
- America will get gradually worse in LITERALLY everything you can imagine that I'm not going to explain since you all already know: Economics, Politics, Demographics, Culture, the whole shebang.
- As America declines internally, its political apparatus will become more and more paranoid to try and prevent anyone from changing the status quo. Censorship, demonetization, etc will increase tenfold, Hate Speech laws will start taking place in this country, if that doesn't work then doxxing/unpersoning will be common.
- There is an increasing "youth bulge" in the population of young men, back in the 20th century we sent these men to die in wars to "cull" that bulge. With the increasing hatred and unpopularity of foreign wars in the 21st century, this is not possible. These men don't want to fight a pointless foreign war anymore and they're getting very, very unhappy and are beginning to dissent.
- There will be another recession either this decade or next. I don't know when, I'm not an economist but I don't think it's going to completely fuck the country, but it's the beginning of the end. Combine this with the absolute degeneration of America in virtually everything, we will begin to see some parallels to America and the Weimar Era: crime, political violence, paramilitaries, etc
- By 2040, we will not have Civil War but America is simply fucked. It is just a glorified Brazil, living on borrowed time as the possibility of war is very likely to happen within the next decade after.

The World
- I don't think technology will be something like Cyberpunk 2077 or GiTS, I think it will somewhat "stagnate" to something between Modern day tech and our beliefs of Cyberpunk in the future. It will start doing some real harm to humanity: automation, facial recognition, deep fakes, AI, it goes on and on.
- When America recedes from the world, it will become more paranoid, flippant, and reactive to anyone trying to take their losing ground. America, despite being miserable, will invade a country like Venezuela (Syria isn't happening anymore, Iran is too late, lol at North Korea) to regain any prestige or geopolitical success, and that will be Iraq 2.0 which will just ruin us more and cause countries like Russia, China, and Iran to start making moves.
- China will become a powerhouse in our time, I don't know when, but perhaps a recession and another stupid war from us will accelerate the process. It's going to happen, the next two decades will be America freaking out and doing everything they can to paint China as the new USSR, perhaps even pulling serious gay ops, but it's only delaying the inevitable. It will not become a Superpower, but it is biding it's time as America begins to collapse.
- Europe isn't completely fucked but it's sorta getting there. It will begin to centralize because as America is going down the tubes they would have to get their act together to prevent Russia maneuvering in. Nothing sorta happens here but faggotry, something happening in the Balkans, and the UK probably having a political meltdown in some place like Scotland.
- Russia will decline further if they don't get someone who is superior to Putin in every way. They might annex Belarus and Donbass too in the future.
- India keeps modernizing and industrializing, not to the extent of the Yellow guy next to them, but they'll become the new pawn for America to engage gay ops against China.
- Seeing America decline, Israel will begin to essentially "run around with their heads screaming" and find a way to fix an increasingly massive hole in their ambitions. They'll start ditching us for China or EU. There might be another Intifada. They'll also start blathering officially in having nukes to scare people off.
- Being the most fragile places in the world, the Middle East and Africa are going to start seeing some shit because of climate change, overpopulation, and politics/religion. The idea of "Water Wars" begin to emerge in places like Ethiopia/Egypt, South Africa implodes into Civil War, more conflict in the regions, etc. This is the fall of the first domino in global instability, the beginning of the collapse in the Third world.


In summary, what we will see is not a total destabilization of the world, but the beginning of it. The next two decades will be a period of stress, tension, radicalization, dissent, and uncertainty as the cracks begin to show. People hate what's happening but there is no momentum to substantially shift things like how the Communists or the Nazis tried. Things will degenerate yet people are still getting food on the plate. The world will be somewhat stable, but instability is beginning to creep up to even the most secure places.

As America begins to truly plunge the decade after, the change for the world will be irrecoverable and nothing seen since the fall of the Soviet Union.
 

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Long ass college essay in my predictions

USA
- America will get gradually worse in LITERALLY everything you can imagine that I'm not going to explain since you all already know: Economics, Politics, Demographics, Culture, the whole shebang.
- As America declines internally, its political apparatus will become more and more paranoid to try and prevent anyone from changing the status quo. Censorship, demonetization, etc will increase tenfold, Hate Speech laws will start taking place in this country, if that doesn't work then doxxing/unpersoning will be common.
- There is an increasing "youth bulge" in the population of young men, back in the 20th century we sent these men to die in wars to "cull" that bulge. With the increasing hatred and unpopularity of foreign wars in the 21st century, this is not possible. These men don't want to fight a pointless foreign war anymore and they're getting very, very unhappy and are beginning to dissent.
- There will be another recession either this decade or next. I don't know when, I'm not an economist but I don't think it's going to completely fuck the country, but it's the beginning of the end. Combine this with the absolute degeneration of America in virtually everything, we will begin to see some parallels to America and the Weimar Era: crime, political violence, paramilitaries, etc
- By 2040, we will not have Civil War but America is simply fucked. It is just a glorified Brazil, living on borrowed time as the possibility of war is very likely to happen within the next decade after.

The World
- I don't think technology will be something like Cyberpunk 2077 or GiTS, I think it will somewhat "stagnate" to something between Modern day tech and our beliefs of Cyberpunk in the future. It will start doing some real harm to humanity: automation, facial recognition, deep fakes, AI, it goes on and on.
- When America recedes from the world, it will become more paranoid, flippant, and reactive to anyone trying to take their losing ground. America, despite being miserable, will invade a country like Venezuela (Syria isn't happening anymore, Iran is too late, lol at North Korea) to regain any prestige or geopolitical success, and that will be Iraq 2.0 which will just ruin us more and cause countries like Russia, China, and Iran to start making moves.
- China will become a powerhouse in our time, I don't know when, but perhaps a recession and another stupid war from us will accelerate the process. It's going to happen, the next two decades will be America freaking out and doing everything they can to paint China as the new USSR, perhaps even pulling serious gay ops, but it's only delaying the inevitable. It will not become a Superpower, but it is biding it's time as America begins to collapse.
- Europe isn't completely fucked but it's sorta getting there. It will begin to centralize because as America is going down the tubes they would have to get their act together to prevent Russia maneuvering in. Nothing sorta happens here but faggotry, something happening in the Balkans, and the UK probably having a political meltdown in some place like Scotland.
- Russia will decline further if they don't get someone who is superior to Putin in every way. They might annex Belarus and Donbass too in the future.
- India keeps modernizing and industrializing, not to the extent of the Yellow guy next to them, but they'll become the new pawn for America to engage gay ops against China.
- Seeing America decline, Israel will begin to essentially "run around with their heads screaming" and find a way to fix an increasingly massive hole in their ambitions. They'll start ditching us for China or EU. There might be another Intifada. They'll also start blathering officially in having nukes to scare people off.
- Being the most fragile places in the world, the Middle East and Africa are going to start seeing some shit because of climate change, overpopulation, and politics/religion. The idea of "Water Wars" begin to emerge in places like Ethiopia/Egypt, South Africa implodes into Civil War, more conflict in the regions, etc. This is the fall of the first domino in global instability, the beginning of the collapse in the Third world.


In summary, what we will see is not a total destabilization of the world, but the beginning of it. The next two decades will be a period of stress, tension, radicalization, dissent, and uncertainty as the cracks begin to show. People hate what's happening but there is no momentum to substantially shift things like how the Communists or the Nazis tried. Things will degenerate yet people are still getting food on the plate. The world will be somewhat stable, but instability is beginning to creep up to even the most secure places.

As America begins to truly plunge the decade after, the change for the world will be irrecoverable and nothing seen since the fall of the Soviet Union.
I doubt there is a Youth bulge since the West in general has a below-average birth replacement rate. A WWI-style draft isn't just politically infeasible, it's impossible, especially since the one value from the counter-culture Left that has persisted consistently is anti-war. Feminists shaming men for draft dodging doesn't work when masculine pride has been destroyed. Still, I agree that the US will withdraw from foreign affairs to maintain domestic stability. They'd have an easier time of it with flourishing small businesses, but perpetual COVID lockdowns ended that possibility. And no, economic migrants cannot be French Foreign Legion'd as they want financial benefits, not citizenship itself. Due to retarded Leftists, the two have been decoupled.

I agree that China will be the next superpower starting with their annexation of Taiwan which I assert will happen in the next 4 to 8 years. Singapore might be next if they can avoid damaging its tech infrastructure. They will bribe or blackmail compromised Dems like Feinstein, Stalwell, and Biden into not using the US Navy. Their main goal for naval supremacy is to take the Strait of Malaaca to ensure their oil supply. Yes, India, from a US perspective, is to check China, but they have a constant check of Pakistan. That, and the reason why India never expanded into serious conflict with China is the Himalayan border separating them. As a natural fortress, India is also restricted on offense and don't want to spend too many resources when their mortal enemy is still right next to them.
 

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I'm not going to try and predict geopolitical shit because I honestly don't know, but I think the most pronounced change in Western Society in general will be an increased gulf between rural and urban life to the point where urbanites will not be able to function upon moving to rural areas and vice versa. I think populations and services will continue to decline in rural areas, and it will get to the point where some paradigm shifting wireless technology will launch at some point but it will only be available in urban areas. Most western nations will launch UBI, it will be more than enough to live off of in a more rural area.

The practical upshot is that though no one will care enough to provide services besides roads and basic utilities to bigger rural centres, this also means those in power are not going to be paying attention to what you're doing.

I think within the next 10 years cities are basically a surveillance state like China with facial recognition cameras, but it's not the government, it's privately run. Companies will share information they collect about you with each other and terms of services will include expectations of general conduct when you're out and about. They will do this because people will demand it, and your employer will pay for the info on you. Users will revolt when people who do increasingly minute socially unacceptable things, like not wearing a mask today, are given an Amazon account, so Amazon will kowtow and ban people based on their behaviour in public. If you get too drunk at a bar a stagger home on a public road, your employer will be able to find out, and they will have agreements that you sign agreeing to behave in a certain manner in order to get a job, similar to how many companies today want to know about people's social media account before they get hired.

In essence at some point over the next 20 years I think you'll have a choice of living in the middle of nowhere with few services, few jobs with most people living on the government tit, but you'll have more freedom and won't be spied on very much or living in the city and being a corporate drone where every aspect of your live is picked over by your employer and the big corporations that provide services where the only escape from it will be your 300 square foot apartment, and I think it will be difficult if not impossible to move back and fourth between the two due to the radical lifestyle adjustment required. I think by the 2030s I'll be in my late 40s and still married and somewhere rural won't be so bad for a guy like me, but young, single people will not want to stay there and eventually, say within 50 years, living in a rural area will be a massive undertaking that few people will choose similar to living in the woods with no running water or electricity today.
 
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Long ass college essay in my predictions

USA
- America will get gradually worse in LITERALLY everything you can imagine that I'm not going to explain since you all already know: Economics, Politics, Demographics, Culture, the whole shebang.
- As America declines internally, its political apparatus will become more and more paranoid to try and prevent anyone from changing the status quo. Censorship, demonetization, etc will increase tenfold, Hate Speech laws will start taking place in this country, if that doesn't work then doxxing/unpersoning will be common.
- There is an increasing "youth bulge" in the population of young men, back in the 20th century we sent these men to die in wars to "cull" that bulge. With the increasing hatred and unpopularity of foreign wars in the 21st century, this is not possible. These men don't want to fight a pointless foreign war anymore and they're getting very, very unhappy and are beginning to dissent.
- There will be another recession either this decade or next. I don't know when, I'm not an economist but I don't think it's going to completely fuck the country, but it's the beginning of the end. Combine this with the absolute degeneration of America in virtually everything, we will begin to see some parallels to America and the Weimar Era: crime, political violence, paramilitaries, etc
- By 2040, we will not have Civil War but America is simply fucked. It is just a glorified Brazil, living on borrowed time as the possibility of war is very likely to happen within the next decade after.
I think you're spot on about the political apparatus getting more and more paranoid- it's going to do anything to preserve the post-90s status quo (that benefits the Washington consensus), even as it become untenable as America and the world changes around it. This will result in a government increasingly out of touch and tyrannical to anyone outside their accepted bubble (think diversity programs/learn to code or $600 checks), and a government unable to deal with the country's middle-to-long-term issues (too many sponging off the current arrangements).

In short, the systematic trajectory may be almost insurmountable because there are too many people unwilling to fix the system within its normal limits, and too many competing visions of what the country should be like.

IMO like what @Drag-on Knight 91873 said, there is no youth bulge, but I can see an increasing number of people who fundamentally lack any faith in the government whatsoever. The 2020 elections were the breaking point for a good number of conservatives, and I can see the Dems facing mounting challenges from their Soc Dem faction. This ultimately results in more and more people doing whatever they can to reestablish some control over their lives and 'stick it' to the government.

A recession is likely in this decade, likely within the next few years as the fundamentals of the economy have essentially been heavily damaged by the events of 2020. Not the megacorps, but the small-to-medium-sized businesses. What growth is there to speak of? And yet the Dow keeps on going up, as it's the only way to earn money at the moment.

The World
- I don't think technology will be something like Cyberpunk 2077 or GiTS, I think it will somewhat "stagnate" to something between Modern day tech and our beliefs of Cyberpunk in the future. It will start doing some real harm to humanity: automation, facial recognition, deep fakes, AI, it goes on and on.
- When America recedes from the world, it will become more paranoid, flippant, and reactive to anyone trying to take their losing ground. America, despite being miserable, will invade a country like Venezuela (Syria isn't happening anymore, Iran is too late, lol at North Korea) to regain any prestige or geopolitical success, and that will be Iraq 2.0 which will just ruin us more and cause countries like Russia, China, and Iran to start making moves.
- Europe isn't completely fucked but it's sorta getting there. It will begin to centralize because as America is going down the tubes they would have to get their act together to prevent Russia maneuvering in. Nothing sorta happens here but faggotry, something happening in the Balkans, and the UK probably having a political meltdown in some place like Scotland.
Europe is going to throw itself at the feet of China and Russia (i.e. the EU-China agreement recently signed, or Nordstream 2), all to appease the German Export meme. China will steal Germany's tech in the medium-term, but the politicians will do anything to preserve that status quo- even at the cost of real European strength. Without the UK, I do agree that Europe will continue to centralize around some superficially-liberal German-Beneluxian technocracy, at the expense of its outlying/Mediterranean states.

I honestly have some doubts about the ability of the Washington establishment to legitimately launch another war. It seems that it lacks the backing of the international community and even of its own citizens, even including some gay-ops that attempt to present some casus belli. The fundamental issue is that the US is societally exhausted from its ever-wars.

Technology is going to become one of those great tragedies as it's being redirected towards the perpetuation of the political establishment's status quo (security, surveillance, financialization). Are people going to be able to overcome this, or has the gulf in power become too great? It feels like Arceibo's collapse was the true signifier of this.

In summary, what we will see is not a total destabilization of the world, but the beginning of it. The next two decades will be a period of stress, tension, radicalization, dissent, and uncertainty as the cracks begin to show. People hate what's happening but there is no momentum to substantially shift things like how the Communists or the Nazis tried. Things will degenerate yet people are still getting food on the plate. The world will be somewhat stable, but instability is beginning to creep up to even the most secure places.

As America begins to truly plunge the decade after, the change for the world will be irrecoverable and nothing seen since the fall of the Soviet Union.
In my opinion this was the biggest tragedy- that the better future around the corner that everyone was envisioning has been snatched away, presenting us with a rather grim outlook.

Though some of its elements have been long-brewing in hindsight (ascension of China to the WTO & the flanderization of the US economy + the growing wealth divide), a lot of it also seemed to have been intentionally created by incompetence and maliciousness in politics.
 
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A minor setback in the same way the CCP Virus was a minor setback. To quote Cao Cao, "recognise and acknowledge your mistake, but never admit your mistake." This is obviously how the CCP and Chinese leadership in general operate. Why? Because the bad news affects morale and divides people. Part of the US's weakness as a culture is our willingness to spread bad news and sensationalize it. As we saw with our COVID response, it introduced all kind of panic from top to bottom. Our smart, college educated citizens have completely forgotten health class in favor of voluntary house arrest.

So yes, they will fuck up, but they don't care because they'll sweep their problems under the rug while they magnify ours.
 

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I honestly have some doubts about the ability of the Washington establishment to legitimately launch another war. It seems that it lacks the backing of the international community and even of its own citizens, even including some gay-ops that attempt to present some casus belli. The fundamental issue is that the US is societally exhausted from its ever-wars.
It looked this way in late 2007 as well, but Obama portraying himself as the new face of America garnered a lot of goodwill with the international community and brought them back on board for American interventionism. How many different allies like France were begging for American involvement in post-Arab Spring disasters like Libya?
I imagine Harris will tap into the same kind of energy to sell the new forever war, but like everything else with her career, it'll be a pale imitation of Obama and, considering most of the people who architected the 90's "export global liberal democracy" foreign policy consensus are at or well past retirement age, it'll be close to their last gasp before the foreign and domestic community turns on them.
 

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I feel that the 2020-2041 will bring economic unrest much like in the 1920's and a rise in nationalism. Econonmically America will be plunged into a great depression and will start printing money and cause hyperinflation, which will bring about America's weimar republic. Which in turn will pave the way for a nationalist movement which will suceed.globally look at china in the pacific specifically in the south china sea. And in the middle east look out for more of the same with iran and shit.
 

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It looked this way in late 2007 as well, but Obama portraying himself as the new face of America garnered a lot of goodwill with the international community and brought them back on board for American interventionism. How many different allies like France were begging for American involvement in post-Arab Spring disasters like Libya?
I imagine Harris will tap into the same kind of energy to sell the new forever war, but like everything else with her career, it'll be a pale imitation of Obama and, considering most of the people who architected the 90's "export global liberal democracy" foreign policy consensus are at or well past retirement age, it'll be close to their last gasp before the foreign and domestic community turns on them.
Obama gained back that good-will by going on an apology tour, which doesn't work now because everyone understand apologies are a sign of weakness. Apologies based on Orange Man Bad just makes the Biden administration look mealy-mouthed and any agreements made even more mercurial than before. You know, if they don't bribe him first.