What to expect from the next 20 years? (2021 - 2040)

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Does anyone predict office drones going back to the skyscrapers after corona is managed? Or has this year shown that working from home works just as well and is cheaper in the long run?
Depends on the company. Some are itching to get the drones back in their cages to justify management's existence. Other places are saying employees can work from home forever if they wish. MY GIRLFRIEND works for a health care company and has been working from home since last April. They recently announced employees likely won't be going back to the offices this year. My former employer Zappos has allowed people to leave the Las Vegas area (where they are headquartered) and work remotely. They also laid of 250ish people that couldn't work from home and are looking to rent out space to other companies in their downtown Las Vegas headquarters. They have no plans of returning to the office any time soon.

My worry is a lot of these companies start offshoring jobs if they can't have their drones to lord over in the office.
 

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A lot changed from the 80s to the 2000s, in fact I would say that in surface level ways more changed from the 80s to the 2000s than the 2000s to today, as far as like clothes, pop culture and stuff goes, I mean there's been plenty of change sure, but it's not quite as night and day as it was from the 80s to the 2000s.

Instead the most radical change since the 2000s has been sociopolitical, stuff like SJW/Woke and the coronavirus, all the biggest changes have been change for the worse and whatever's still decent is essentially holdovers from the past.

It's incredibly upsetting when you realize that we truly are living in dystopian times, life is worse now than it was in the past, it's a combination of the coronavirus and the ever present dread over where the political/racial division might be going.

It's also depressing how this casts a pall over the past, to think this is what was waiting for us, I'm big on nostalgia but looking back on yesteryear everything seems a little phony baloney, a little hollow, we know now it was all essentially a façade covering the nightmare that was just waiting to be unleashed, like blood seeping through a bandage.

I think a combination of tech and the September 11th attacks has been the biggest driver of that sociopolitical change you refer to. Even if people went from wearing funeral clothes in 1980 to clown outfits in 2000, it's still a smaller and less fundamental change than people carrying around a fully functional computer in their pocket everywhere they go, being constantly afraid.

I was born in the early to mid-80s and I was the youngest of 14 cousins, so I was exposed to a lot of what they were doing by the late 1980s. Me sitting at home on a Wednesday night in 1998 listening to an Offspring CD and playing Nintendo 64 was not that fundamentally different from my cousin sitting at home on a Wednesday night in 1988 playing NES and listening to 80s stuff on the radio. If I wanted to contact my friend to hang out in 1999, I picked up the landline phone and called them just like someone would in the 1980s. Different bands and clothes and tv shows and movies cycled in and out of popularity, but fundamentally as a teen in the late 1990s, my life was not that different from the life of a teen in the late 1980s. The things I was doing as 1 15-year-old in 1999 were roughly analogous to the things a 15-year-old would have done in 1989 or even 1979. I would go to the mall, hang out with my friends, get something to eat, and go to the arcade. In the 1970s my parents would go to a take-out, hang-out with their friends, get something to eat, play the pinball games that every take-out had back then, etc. It's the same essential thing and the changes are largely just surface level. If you plucked a teenager from 1978 and dropped him in 1998 I think he'd fundamentally understand what was going on. If you plucked me from 1998 and put me in 2018, I don't think I'd know what in the fuck was happening, and that's pre-covid.

What I'm saying here in a round-about way, is as far as I can tell from the mid 1970s(There was a shitload of change in the 50s and 60s) until 2001, things weren't changing that fast or that fundamentally. I think looking back, September 11th set up the model for the current way news is reported, just constant DOOM!, and that draws people in. The attacks were so big it got everyone, high school students, adults, college students, everyone paying attention to the news, then it activated that little part their brain that gets activated when they watch a horror movie and they have to see how Jason is going to kill everybody, and now they are glued to the news. My parents never watched CNN before September 11th and after that they seldom turned it off.

Even when people were scared of stuff in the late 90s, like Y2K, the news wasn't as pervasive as it was after the September 11th attacks and the following war on terror was. Even during the cold war, most people had confidence by the late 70s early 80s that the west was running laps around the commies. There were news stories about stuff, but people didin't pay much attention to them. By 2004, the fact that people were so into the news as entertainment that Fahrenheit 9/11 reached number one at the box office and made $250-million is a pretty telling example. That would have been fodder for page 50 in the Saturday morning paper that your average person wouldn't have read in 1999. They took an episode of 20/20 and made it into a movie and it took off.

Fast forward to the 2010s people got into smartphones and they're just being broadcast constant DOOM! to this device in their pocket 24/7 and that's driven stuff like the SJW/woke stuff and the over the top fear surrounding covid. People on the right aren't immune to it either. Look at how much traction the idea that known millionaire pants-shitting neoliberals Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer are going to convert the US into a socialist country gets, which really when you dig down is completely laughable because all both the dems and the republicans really care about is maintaining the plutocracy outside a few young idealists and the occasional Trump-like populist figure. The September 11th attacks got everyone on the retarded short-bus, but smartphones just caused the driver to hit the gas and now it's going at a constant 99 miles per hour.
 

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Instead the most radical change since the 2000s has been sociopolitical, stuff like SJW/Woke and the coronavirus, all the biggest changes have been change for the worse and whatever's still decent is essentially holdovers from the past.

Like I said before, elites are at least partly to blame for making the world so insane lately. They want the world to be a cybernetic soy hive of atomized bugmen they have absolute power over, and they've been really pushing for that with Current Year. Especially since 2020 with this scamdemic and the resulting "New Normal".

Big Tech really likes that the internet is becoming more corporate, controlled, and censored. They like that people are even more reliant on it since this scamdemic forced people to "stay home and save lives" over an overblown flu.

Oh yeah, and when I did a search on Google for "the world is getting worse", the top result was a hot take from Forbes that claimed the world is getting better.

The September 11th attacks got everyone on the retarded short-bus, but smartphones just caused the driver to hit the gas and now it's going at a constant 99 miles per hour.

The analogy I used was something like Current Year was a plane that boarded with 9/11, sped down the runway with smartphones and social media, and took off when Orange Man was elected and TDS exploded. Clown Airlines Flight 666 is now cruising high with the circus of 2020.
 
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I think a combination of tech and the September 11th attacks has been the biggest driver of that sociopolitical change you refer to. Even if people went from wearing funeral clothes in 1980 to clown outfits in 2000, it's still a smaller and less fundamental change than people carrying around a fully functional computer in their pocket everywhere they go, being constantly afraid.

I was born in the early to mid-80s and I was the youngest of 14 cousins, so I was exposed to a lot of what they were doing by the late 1980s. Me sitting at home on a Wednesday night in 1998 listening to an Offspring CD and playing Nintendo 64 was not that fundamentally different from my cousin sitting at home on a Wednesday night in 1988 playing NES and listening to 80s stuff on the radio. If I wanted to contact my friend to hang out in 1999, I picked up the landline phone and called them just like someone would in the 1980s. Different bands and clothes and tv shows and movies cycled in and out of popularity, but fundamentally as a teen in the late 1990s, my life was not that different from the life of a teen in the late 1980s. The things I was doing as 1 15-year-old in 1999 were roughly analogous to the things a 15-year-old would have done in 1989 or even 1979. I would go to the mall, hang out with my friends, get something to eat, and go to the arcade. In the 1970s my parents would go to a take-out, hang-out with their friends, get something to eat, play the pinball games that every take-out had back then, etc. It's the same essential thing and the changes are largely just surface level. If you plucked a teenager from 1978 and dropped him in 1998 I think he'd fundamentally understand what was going on. If you plucked me from 1998 and put me in 2018, I don't think I'd know what in the fuck was happening, and that's pre-covid.

What I'm saying here in a round-about way, is as far as I can tell from the mid 1970s(There was a shitload of change in the 50s and 60s) until 2001, things weren't changing that fast or that fundamentally. I think looking back, September 11th set up the model for the current way news is reported, just constant DOOM!, and that draws people in. The attacks were so big it got everyone, high school students, adults, college students, everyone paying attention to the news, then it activated that little part their brain that gets activated when they watch a horror movie and they have to see how Jason is going to kill everybody, and now they are glued to the news. My parents never watched CNN before September 11th and after that they seldom turned it off.

Even when people were scared of stuff in the late 90s, like Y2K, the news wasn't as pervasive as it was after the September 11th attacks and the following war on terror was. Even during the cold war, most people had confidence by the late 70s early 80s that the west was running laps around the commies. There were news stories about stuff, but people didin't pay much attention to them. By 2004, the fact that people were so into the news as entertainment that Fahrenheit 9/11 reached number one at the box office and made $250-million is a pretty telling example. That would have been fodder for page 50 in the Saturday morning paper that your average person wouldn't have read in 1999. They took an episode of 20/20 and made it into a movie and it took off.

Fast forward to the 2010s people got into smartphones and they're just being broadcast constant DOOM! to this device in their pocket 24/7 and that's driven stuff like the SJW/woke stuff and the over the top fear surrounding covid. People on the right aren't immune to it either. Look at how much traction the idea that known millionaire pants-shitting neoliberals Nancy Pelosi, Joe Biden and Chuck Schumer are going to convert the US into a socialist country gets, which really when you dig down is completely laughable because all both the dems and the republicans really care about is maintaining the plutocracy outside a few young idealists and the occasional Trump-like populist figure. The September 11th attacks got everyone on the retarded short-bus, but smartphones just caused the driver to hit the gas and now it's going at a constant 99 miles per hour.
You're not wrong, in fact I've thought that despite the changes that occurred in the 1960s the introduction of smartphones ended some great epoch of American culture that arguably stretched all the way back to the 1930s or at least the post WW2 1940s.

Looking back at 2000s media today it seems like it's from a place almost as radically different to us today than anything from the 1930s, you really can't understate the radical changes that have occurred over the last decade.


Like I said before, elites are at least partly to blame for making the world so insane lately. They want the world to be a cybernetic soy hive of atomized bugmen they have absolute power over, and they've been really pushing for that with Current Year. Especially since 2020 with this scamdemic and the resulting "New Normal".

Big Tech really likes that the internet is becoming more corporate, controlled, and censored. They like that people are even more reliant on it since this scamdemic forced people to "stay home and save lives" over an overblown flu.

Oh yeah, and when I did a search on Google for "the world is getting worse", the top result was a hot take from Forbes that claimed the world is getting better.



The analogy I used was something like Current Year was a plane that boarded with 9/11, sped down the runway with smartphones and social media, and took off when Orange Man was elected and TDS exploded. Clown Airlines Flight 666 is now cruising high with the circus of 2020.
The election of Trump is when it was game over for this not being a dystopia.

I look back at 2015 as the last year of the "good old days" as while things were already getting pretty Woke, it was a transitionary period, but things reached critical mass once Trump was elected.
 

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Oh yeah, and when I did a search on Google for "the world is getting worse", the top result was a hot take from Forbes that claimed the world is getting better.
Semi unrelated, but you should really give duckduckgo a shot. Google has gotten so astroturfed that not only are political topics completely opaque, but it has also compromised their search in ways that have nothing to do with politics at all.
 

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The election of Trump is when it was game over for this not being a dystopia.

I look back at 2015 as the last year of the "good old days" as while things were already getting pretty Woke, it was a transitionary period, but things reached critical mass once Trump was elected.
I'm fairly sure that it wouldn't have been much different if Killary had won. If anything, it would have accelerated the dystopian trend even more. Personally, I found 2015 to be a fairly tense year, it was simply the last year where it wasn't realistic for you to have your life ruined by someone you knew in real life over nonsense.
 

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I'm fairly sure that it wouldn't have been much different if Killary had won. If anything, it would have accelerated the dystopian trend even more. Personally, I found 2015 to be a fairly tense year, it was simply the last year where it wasn't realistic for you to have your life ruined by someone you knew in real life over nonsense.
If anything, Trump proved the Uniparty was not unbeatable and even though he's out, said Uniparty is panicking over Redditors acting retarded. Killary would have fully cemented the neoliberal agenda.
 

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Semi unrelated, but you should really give duckduckgo a shot.

That's what I have set as default search engine. Problem is, DDG seems to have a really dumb search engine that makes it as bad - if not worse - than Google manipulated results. with finding stuff.

Looking back at 2000s media today it seems like it's from a place almost as radically different[...]

In Current Year, the USA became Clownland. Clownland really is a different country compared to the former America.

The election of Trump is when it was game over for this not being a dystopia.
If anything, Trump proved the Uniparty was not unbeatable [...]

Now that the Democrats "won" an election, they may "never lose" one ever again. Or at least no "outsider" like Trump may ever "win" again. In other words, only spokespeople or complete puppets of the elite may ever "win" an American presidential election from now on. And as long as "woke" is mainstream, there may never be another GOP president again - unless the GOP goes "woke" too.
 
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Now that the Democrats "won" an election, they may "never lose" one ever again. Or at least no "outsider" like Trump may ever "win" again. In other words, only spokespeople or complete puppets of the elite may ever "win" an American presidential election from now on. And as long as "woke" is mainstream, there may never be another GOP president again - unless the GOP goes "woke" too.
As you imply with quotes, the actual power to lead is gone and regular people that aren't trying to be part of the elite will continue to sabotage their efforts by whatever means are available to them. The Neo-Liberal Great Reset may instead not be globohomo paradise, but the Second Great Depression or an October Revolution. Fancy technology is never stressed-tested enough to withstand sledgehammers and refrigerator magnets.
 

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2020 is almost over and as we're coming along to 2021 the following question sprung to mind, what are some few major changes you predict that might happen in the following years?
Increase in aids and companies doing more and more anti-consumer pratices applauded by consoomers.
Brands will have fandoms
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I'll still keep fighting the system and continue being a free man who blows shit up in the tyrant's faces as an "insect".

Live free or die. Underestimate human unpredictability at your own risk.
 

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We'll one day see a push to legalize incest. The arguments for it will be that acknowledging genetic inheritance and biological differences is transphobic, promotes eugenics and is xenophobic because incest is normal in certain parts of the world. People will bring up Einstein's marriage to his cousin to convince others that incest is a big brain move.

Quote me when it happens.
 

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We'll one day see a push to legalize incest. The arguments for it will be that acknowledging genetic inheritance and biological differences is transphobic, promotes eugenics and is xenophobic because incest is normal in certain parts of the world. People will bring up Einstein's marriage to his cousin to convince others that incest is a big brain move.

Quote me when it happens.

Cousin-fucking has been the norm for pretty much forever. A whole bunch of Biblical figures were in on the act. It's the idea that cousin-fucking is bad and gross that's the historical aberration and genetically it's not actually that terrible unless you maintain it over the generations (see Charles II of Spain). But I do agree that certain elements will move to normalise sibling-fucking, which is definitely bad and gross and a historical aberration. For normies anyway, pharaohs and shit were fucking their sisters on the regular.
 

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Is it unreasonable to expect a slow-boil white genocide, or at least for white people to become a persecuted minority within the next twenty years? Because given how white people who are not a part of the liberal elite are being persecuted and having their lives ruined for trivial things, all the while filthy apes are thriving at their expense and gloating about it, it certainly seems like it. It is like seeing what happened to the Armenians in slow motion.
 

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I expect the The Powers of Global-homo at somepoint phase out holidays, Due to cultural ties they have and giving people less days off work. just look what happen to Easter in the last 20- 30 years how many people still get easter off or even talked about in the cultural zeitgeist as a whole. There where doing the same to thanksgiving with more and more places open in recent years, but I think covid put a puase on that for now. Dont be surprieds in 2035 holiday might not really be a meaningful thing anymore and you will work that day like anyhting eany other day.
 

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is it unreasonable to expect a slow-boil white genocide, or at least for white people to become a persecuted minority within the next twenty years? Because given how white people who are not a part of the liberal elite are being persecuted and having their lives ruined for trivial things, all the while filthy apes are thriving at their expense and gloating about it, it certainly seems like it. It is like seeing what happened to the Armenians in slow motion.
Nigga that's the last 70 years