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Will Barb's debt be left with Chris having to pay it? Also do you think the amount of debt is in the 6-digits?
Not sure, it depends if he's a guarantor I doubt any bank would find him sufficient for such a position in a loan contract - as what bank manager says if the old lady can't pay her gainfully unemployed overweight lazy good for nothing lesbian soul male offspring will.
 

RainwaterDrop

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Will Barb's debt be left with Chris having to pay it? Also do you think the amount of debt is in the 6-digits?
According to the wiki it is around 120k. Which is far more than Chris will ever have in his pockets for more than five seconds before he either buys a literal ton of Lego or some Pony shit. Problem is, according to my quick research into the topic, I found out that the Estate is responsible for taking care of debts - which still screws Chris since the mortgages are probably tied to the property - again, Google Law, not proper research. And good luck even getting him to understand what those things are, I doubt he even knows what a deed is to begin with, let alone a fucking mortgage.

Anyways, with this dimensional merge shit going on in his head, good luck in even getting him to pay his debts and keeping his home if he gets the money(by itself an absurdly improbable event), he clearly isn't in any condition to tend to his own affairs let alone deal with serious shit like any of that. Even if he won the lottery, he'd still be fucked thanks to that.
I would guess Null has to keep any plans secret, just out of necessity - the second he even gives a hint of what they are, the trolls/orbiters would likely swoop in and start the sabotage. Those psychos that consider themselves Chris' "guardians", and that do nothing but feed his delusions, would be the worst.
Honestly, the best case for him would be if a wealthy relative became his legal guardian and took care of his legal affairs in order, just pay someone to take care of him on the house and keep an eye out every now and then. Anything that relies on Chris having a slight grip on reality right now is bound to fail. He's drowning in his delusions while swimming deeper and deeper and biting any helping hands who try to pull him out of it.
 

Hogar Grupal

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It's just a bit strange that Null makes secret deals about Chris as if he was his property (brings me back to the recording thing, it's probably even the same people) but I guess when you basically own a person, anything is possible with a select few covering you up. Barb dies and Chris becomes Null's. It'd be useless to make theories so I guess we'll have to see what happens. I guess anything is fine if what he's gonna do to him is, well, legal... and even if it's not, he surely has this problem solved already.
I'm going to sound like an a-log, but Chris is useless, so being someone's property is his one main function. All he goes is draw horribly, waste money and is an internet freakshow. All his life, people have dictated what Chris would do with his life: Barb, the trolls, to some extent, weens. If Chris had his shit together, he would have never been catfished/extorted. Chris would surely be lost without Barb and he doesn't have any backup plan. Null taking care of Chris is his only saving grace. He's better off with Null than a white knight/enabler who will only help Chris out so far until they cast him aside, and equally than weens who will in likelihood abuse Chris.

apologies for the double post.
 

AnOminous

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Will Barb's debt be left with Chris having to pay it? Also do you think the amount of debt is in the 6-digits?
No, Jesus Christ, that isn't how debt works. It will attach to her assets, like if she lets a judgment debt turn into a lien on the house, which already has a superior secured debt because of the mortgage.

Chris does not owe shit on any debts he didn't sign on.

Also anyone who even utters the phrase "group home" should be put in a group home themselves. Seriously just shut the fuck up you goddamn retard.
 

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With that being said, he also doesn't have a legal claim to the house and a lot of the stuff in it. Repossession of that tacky McMansion and all the stuff inside is going to break Chris, and I want a front-row seat.
There's so much debt attached to it that unless he makes it good, he isn't going to keep it. He's going to be evicted when the secured creditor forecloses on it.
 

Mariposa Electrique

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I wonder if any of the therapists had asked Chris what will he do when Barb dies? I bet it's one his triggers like da finances; he is tired of it and doesn't want to hear it.
He probably thinks he's going to cut a hole in space-time and travel to CWCVille and give magi-chan a handjob.
 

Hogar Grupal

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I know SSI and SSDI are different, but if Chris needs to keep receiving those benefits, wouldn't he need a permeant address on file to do so?
 

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I doubt Chris has ever been to therapy.
Well he did attend those 12 or so sessions with a psychiatrist and a therapy group that the courts ordered him to do during 2018-2019, but then he acted out a lego therapy session with a fake wolf psychologist to talk about more important problems pondering his mind, like getting blocked by brony related people on twitter because of things he said to them or was doing...

So yeah clearly he has all sorts of important issues right up their in his immediate pecking order.

If he did talk about being afraid of death (which is a normal thing for some people, even related to Chris and his own mother, regardless of how much of a manipulative deceitful women she is) he would have definitely tried to hide his face about the issue with them. because he is scared of facing the cruel harsh facts of reality.
 

Nate Dingus

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There are two sections in Virginian law that might prevent Chris from being immediately screwed.

Spouses and minor children of the deceased are entitled to a portion of the estate that has priority over all debts and tax claims. The maximum amount that Chris could get is $44,000 = $24,000 from the Family Allowance and $20,000 from Exempt Property. If the value of the exempt property is less than $20k (highly likely), the remainder comes from the estate.

Code of Virginia § 64.2-309. Family allowance.
A. In addition to any other right or allowance under this article, upon the death of a decedent who was domiciled in the Commonwealth, the surviving spouse and minor children whom the decedent was obligated to support are entitled to a reasonable allowance in money out of the estate for their maintenance during the period of administration, which allowance shall not continue for longer than one year if the estate is inadequate to discharge all allowed claims. The family allowance may be paid as a lump sum not to exceed $24,000, or in periodic installments not to exceed $2,000 per month for one year. It is payable to the surviving spouse for the use of the surviving spouse and minor children or, if there is no surviving spouse, to the person having the care and custody of the minor children. If any minor child is not living with the surviving spouse, the family allowance may be made partially to the spouse and partially to the person having the care and custody of the child, as their needs may appear. If there are no minor children, the allowance is payable to the surviving spouse.

B. The family allowance has priority over all claims against the estate.

C. The family allowance is in addition to any benefit or share passing to the surviving spouse or minor children by the will of the decedent, by intestate succession, or by way of elective share.

§ 64.2-310. Exempt property.​

A. In addition to any other right or allowance under this article, the surviving spouse of a decedent who was domiciled in the Commonwealth is entitled from the estate to value not exceeding $20,000 in excess of any security interests therein in household furniture, automobiles, furnishings, appliances, and personal effects. If there is no surviving spouse, the minor children of the decedent are entitled in equal shares to such property of the same value. If the value of the exempt property selected in excess of any security interests therein is less than $20,000, or if there is not $20,000 worth of exempt property in the estate, the spouse or minor children are entitled to other assets of the estate, if any, to the extent necessary to make up the $20,000 value.

B. The right to exempt property and other assets of the estate needed to make up a deficiency of exempt property has priority over all claims against the estate, except the family allowance.


C. The right to exempt property is in addition to any benefit or share passing to the surviving spouse or minor children by the will of the decedent, by intestate succession, or by way of elective share.

As others have pointed out, there's no way that Chris is going to keep the house. But he might be entitled to a share of its sale price. What I'm unsure about is whether an incapacitated adult can be considered to be interchangeable with a minor child for the purposes of this law. Other states like Texas specifically mention dependent disabled adults, and the overall intent of family allowance laws is to protect family who are completely dependent on the person who just died.

Virginian law does mention assigning a conservator to incapacitated adults for the purposes of handling the estate. I.E a government appointed tard wrangler who handles all the paperwork and probate that Chris is incapable of doing. Presumably the court would take one look at Chris and his record and declare him fucking nuts. But his court diversion shows how indifferent the Commonwealth is to Chris' mental health and wellbeing. Plus I don't even know if Chris is officially considered to be Barb's guardian or vice versa.
 
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