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CrippleThreat

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"They're totally going to so something unprecedented and unpredictable, guys! Big happenings a-comin'! The left are going to fuck up so hard once they get into power, it's going to be as if they're doing the work for us! Even if we lose this time, we'll get them in 22 and 24! Even the VBNMW types will realize how bad they are!"

Yeah, aight.

Doom is tiring, so I'll make it quick. The right will function as if Big O never left (not like he did anyway); glamour to the left at all times, while the right goes back to being the meddling side thorn. That's it while the electorate becomes "sighing at McCain-Romney types" depressed and hungry. But to the latter, no substance will come unless God sends another Reagan, and lol at the thought of that guy/gal not being a feigning grifter.

If you want optimism and "hopium" (seriously, who made these words?), pray that Harris pulls a '16 Clinton and the Democrat/Uniparty machine pulls a Harry Reid and gets so high on their farts they become arrogant once more to belief that they can never lose and win by fielding out literal day-old shit.

If the Right still have their balls buried deep inside the DNC/Left's handbags, I expect '08 Obama levels minimum and '96 Clinton levels maximum for years for the Democrats.
 
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TFT-A9

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It's partially their own damn fault tbh.

After-all, consider how many times they feed into it in a desprate attempt of saying, "democrats are the real racists", virtue signal by throwing one of their own under the bus, and enable the very same companies who are now disposing of them.

Ultimately: they made this grave, and they can lie in it now.
Validating the "racism" argument by so much as acknowledging it is a huge mistake. You're basically agreeing to play a rigged game. Someone ever brings up racism, you fucking ignore it as a matter of principle. "Racist" is a snarl word, it's not designed to be argued against, it's designed to force you to argue on their terms. They will change the definition as it pleases them, you will meet one of their goalposts on paper and they will promptly move it 50 yards downfield, and the cycle repeats endlessly. The fact that the GOP ever engaged in that proves they're fucking morons or willingly playing the part of "graceful losers".
 

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I honestly think there's some truth to this, actually.

Maybe it won't be quite as optimistic as you think, but I do think they've blown their load too hard with 2020 and the Boomer/Gen X neoliberal corporatists only see the Millennial/Early Zoomer Woke Left as useful idiots and a moral flag to hide behind, no different than how the neocons viewed the Religious Right when it was a thing.

They can go back to corporate uniparty with GOP as controlled opposition and likely will but even with the fraud machine, I can definitely see a massive internal struggle between the Woke Left zealots and those in the bigwigs who have the real power and wealth. The "Orange Man Bad" is the biggest unifying thing that held this loose coalition together.

If the Right goes back to corporatism and traditionalism, they're fucked.

The "hurr durr what are we conserving?" assholes like Fuetnes and The Distributist don't seem to get that a return to Judeo-Christian traditionalist moralism will only hasten the demise of the Right, not preserve it.
I kinda have been trying to say this...

I think people look into the woke left a little to much and do not see the glaring opposition to them from the older parts of the left, other than the obvious law-makers/ neo-libs in power. The actual support base is a disaster unified by a singular hatred of Trump. Now that the Trump safety-guard is down, I expect a bit of chaos in the party to arise. It already seems like AOC and friends want to remove old neo-libs from power by force, with the first being Nancy. If they start getting their way, I expect the older portion of Dems to leave. I listen in on my parents who have been Left since Clinton, and they cannot even stomach Bernie. AOC is typically more extreme than the old socialist, so they are likely to have many issues with her. The only reason they like her or Bernie is simply because they are strong Dems to beat Trump. They would never go for them without TDS to say the least.

The Dems are going to be a nothing party for awhile. Joe is not going to do anything extreme and that is what the old guard likes. He is a president that can let them be complacent and detached from politics as the news will be silent about him. They will definitely turn on woke SJWs if they stir up anything in the party as it breaks the "everything is okay" emersion. Trump probably did us well as X is more nostalgic and looking for complacency than ever, while the woke is more fired up than ever, the conflict will come between the two eventually.

As for younger gens, they will likely go right, with the Millennials' children likely being super. A religious right comeback may very well happen as I assume the Millennials will just enact the same extreme practices religious Boomers did, but now with Trans material instead of God. Z will be moderate Republican, likely splitting like X has over Trump when the big new Dem comes rolling in.

If I had to predict the next few years:
-Biden wins to the pleasure of Dems.
-Wokes start to try to overturn Dem party to be Socialist/Communist, and Gen X loses it on them
-Either Wokes win and push X to be Republican in 24, or Wokes get pushed out and try to form a 3rd party that will inevitably fail. Either way, the Dems at large will be hurting unless one generation just takes it.
-Z get slowly brought in the more elections go by, giving more favor to Republicans
- Millenial children will go back to Religious stuff as revenge against the parents.
-Both Dem and Republican parties change, GOP embraces Trump, and DNC something?
-We restart the process a good 20-30 years later
 

The Last Stand

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"They're totally going to so something unprecedented and unpredictable, guys! Big happenings a-comin'! The left are going to fuck up so hard once they get into power, it's going to be as if they're doing the work for us! Even if we lose this time, we'll get them in 22 and 24! Even the VBNMW types will realize how bad they are!"

Yeah, aight.

Doom is tiring, so I'll make it quick. The right will function as if Big O never left (not like he did anyway); glamour to the left at all times, while the right goes back to being the meddling side thorn. That's it while the electorate becomes "sighing at McCain-Romney types" depressed and hungry. But to the latter, no substance will come unless God sends another Reagan, and lol at the thought of that guy/gal not being a feigning grifter.

If you want optimism and "hopium" (seriously, who made these words?), pray that Harris pulls a '16 Clinton and the Democrat/Uniparty machine pulls a Harry Reid and gets so high on their farts they become arrogant once more to belief that they can never lose and win by fielding out literal day-old shit.

If the Right still have their balls buried deep inside the DNC/Left's handbags, I expect '08 Obama levels minimum and '96 Clinton levels maximum for years for the Democrats.
TL:biggrin:R: all talk, no action.
 

The Last Stand

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It's likely best if the RNC goes ahead and dies out. It's basically just a meme party that tricks white people into subjecting themselves to a Jew-controlled system by making promises it never intends to keep.
Somebody told me that they want the Democratic Party "dismantled" for that same reason.

Having a two party system is the closest thing we have to choice in our government.
 

Kosher Dill

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I think the answer to "what's next" depends entirely on what Trump does once he's out of office. The thing is that nobody in government likes him, and there's no institutional Trump faction since he reshuffled his appointees every five minutes and left the government half-unstaffed. All the pull Trump has comes from people being afraid to anger his legions of fans.
If Trump decides to just go home and sulk after January (as he may very well do), I think The Establishment will seamlessly regrow.
If he decides to stay in politics and take his show on the road... well, that depends on just how much of an organization he'll be able to run with the government, media, and tech all actively trying to freeze him out.
 

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The right will become cute femboys at Joe Biden's feminization camps.
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L50LasPak

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Speculation that a religious right wing is going to return is ridiculously naive at best. While I do fully expect Zoomers and whatever the children of Millennials are to be rebellious towards the attitude of their parents, I don't see that manifesting in a return to religion. The proliferation of technology has drastically changed people's outlooks and perspectives on spirituality. I can see a kind of pop-religion arising in that climate, but I generally expect the younger generations to be total heathens. If there is a recognizable conservative movement in the future, I don't expect it to incorporate a religious element to a significant degree.
 

CheezzyMach

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I honestly think there's some truth to this, actually.

Maybe it won't be quite as optimistic as you think, but I do think they've blown their load too hard with 2020 and the Boomer/Gen X neoliberal corporatists only see the Millennial/Early Zoomer Woke Left as useful idiots and a moral flag to hide behind, no different than how the neocons viewed the Religious Right when it was a thing.

They can go back to corporate uniparty with GOP as controlled opposition and likely will but even with the fraud machine, I can definitely see a massive internal struggle between the Woke Left zealots and those in the bigwigs who have the real power and wealth. The "Orange Man Bad" is the biggest unifying thing that held this loose coalition together along with irrational fears of the Religious Right somehow coming back into power.

If the Right goes back to corporatism and traditionalism, they're fucked.

The "hurr durr what are we conserving?" assholes like Fuetnes and The Distributist don't seem to get that a return to Judeo-Christian traditionalist moralism will only hasten the demise of the Right, not preserve it.
The Woke Left and Corporate Left are already fighting, Biden and Harris are trying a hard pivot to the Center and both sides are blaming the other for why the Republicans kicked their asses down ballot.

If Biden dumps the wokies and corporate media follows suit the Trump style republicans are done for I think unless they focus on actual policy and not culture war shit.

TBH I think most Americans are tired of culture war shitflinging but I could be wrong.
 

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I think people look into the woke left a little to much and do not see the glaring opposition to them from the older parts of the left, other than the obvious law-makers/ neo-libs in power. The actual support base is a disaster unified by a singular hatred of Trump. Now that the Trump safety-guard is down, I expect a bit of chaos in the party to arise. It already seems like AOC and friends want to remove old neo-libs from power by force, with the first being Nancy. If they start getting their way, I expect the older portion of Dems to leave. I listen in on my parents who have been Left since Clinton, and they cannot even stomach Bernie. AOC is typically more extreme than the old socialist, so they are likely to have many issues with her. The only reason they like her or Bernie is simply because they are strong Dems to beat Trump. They would never go for them without TDS to say the least.

The Woke Left and Corporate Left are already fighting, Biden and Harris are trying a hard pivot to the Center and both sides are blaming the other for why the Republicans kicked their asses down ballot.

If Biden dumps the wokies and corporate media follows suit the Trump style republicans are done for I think unless they focus on actual policy and not culture war shit.

Counterintuitive as it may seem, Trump's loss presents an opportunity for the Right, which I greatly hope they don't totally squander for once. The American Left is currently an inherently unstable coalition of otherwise oppositional factions, a Too-Big Tent where the sole unifying doctrine is Trump-hatred. It has always been viciously sectarian, and once Trump is gone I expect to see serious splintering within the Democratic Party as the various factions battle for dominance. The Neolibs and the Woke DSA types hate each other, and both hate and are hated by the Dirtbag Left, the blacks resent the whites, the sane factions of the LGB + feminists are troubled by the promotion of troonery, the Jews are threatened by the Left's embrace of Islamism, and the number of actual liberals remaining is seemingly negligible, since most have either abandoned liberal principles in favor of woke authoritarianism or have allied with the Right in hopes of stopping the madness. If the Right thinks it can return to the old Neocon + Religious Right alliance and treat the Trump phenomenon as an embarrassing fluke, it will fade into deserved irrelevance; if it embraces a populist civ nat platform with concrete policies rather than meaningless talking points, it'll have a future. However, I do see some serious challenges ahead. Firstly, the right will need to get a grasp on the culture and build strong institutions of its own, and unfortunately it's way behind the Left in this respect. Also, it'll have to rein in the nutcases before they further impede the movement, particularly shit like Q and some of the crazier far-Right factions that will only scare off normies, erode credibility, and pollute the brand. It should make immediate efforts to curb its warmongering tendencies and bring our troops home, letting the Left become the party of endless war and dealing a major blow to the Left's self-conception and popular image. And of chief importance -- and I'm sure this will be difficult for the cucks in leadership who have gotten very used to doing this for years -- it will have to stop playing the Left's identity game, stop caring about baseless accusations of "-isms", stop "losing with dignity," and start focusing on delivering desired results to its supporters.
 

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the GOP is going to go back to being the Globalist party ASAP. so either in 2020 if the courts fuck trump or in 2024 when they jew the primaries for nikki haley and expect deplorables to show up. i sat through a jewing of the primaries in 2016 for ted cruz, the gope will do it. they really want that democrat respect and invitations to the wine parties.
 

NynchLiggers

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The lolsuits will go nowhere.
Blimpf is going to consneed, the legal challenges are only to make sure every single Trumper fight tooth and nail to fuck the dems over.
Unlike what some people here say, Blimpf's influence in the GOP will last for at least four more years.
 

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Firstly, the right will need to get a grasp on the culture and build strong institutions of its own, and unfortunately it's way behind the Left in this respect. Also, it'll have to rein in the nutcases before they further impede the movement, particularly shit like Q and some of the crazier far-Right factions that will only scare off normies, erode credibility, and pollute the brand.
I would argue against this, the right is far ahead of the left on taking hold of culture. While the effects are yet to show, I believe the Right’s future is especially bright. This election was an odd showing. The Republicans have support, but much of it is Gen Z, a generation that is still unable to vote for the most part. It seems that as you move farther down the generation, the more of a stronghold Trump has even in typically liberal areas. These people could not vote for Donny, so this election was really up to the older gens. Gen X and Millenials comprise the Democrat stronghold as they control the tv media and norm ie sites like FaceBook. Those things are dying off though, so the Republicans are being smart and taking over smaller sites that people under 40 would actually use.

As for the right-wing crazies, they really are not that bad. Most of it is blantant lies made up by Millenial/Gen X news outlets knowing the audience knows nothing about the wider web. Republicans cannot do anything. Millenials are already fully decided on their party and X is starting to show their age and how little they know about the internet. The Proud Boys, for all their lolcowness are fairly accepting and far from the white supremacy base most media labels them as. Q is just Boomer conspiracy theorists that would have been a weird untouched part of the internet 10 years ago, but is now just being blown out of proportion because Trump bad. In all honesty, most of the right has a handle on themselves now it is just media depicting them poorly to suit an agenda that they know the audience will take to.

Counterintuitive as it may seem, Trump's loss presents an opportunity for the Right, which I greatly hope they don't totally squander for once. The American Left is currently an inherently unstable coalition of otherwise oppositional factions, a Too-Big Tent where the sole unifying doctrine is Trump-hatred. It has always been viciously sectarian, and once Trump is gone I expect to see serious splintering within the Democratic Party as the various factions battle for dominance. The Neolibs and the Woke DSA types hate each other, and both hate and are hated by the Dirtbag Left, the blacks resent the whites, the sane factions of the LGB + feminists are troubled by the promotion of troonery, the Jews are threatened by the Left's embrace of Islamism, and the number of actual liberals remaining is seemingly negligible, since most have either abandoned liberal principles in favor of woke authoritarianism or have allied with the Right in hopes of stopping the madness.
Yeah, I have no idea how the left can survive. Just look at the candidates they have to continue their legacy:

Kamala Harris - A woman who Black men hate so much that they voted Trump. The only people who like her are either playing identity politics, did not watch a single Democrat debate, or are full of TDS and Biden worship (or all three). She was the worst possible pick and only brought up by Biden, so if she is the Dems future, they are screwed. The only thing ever mentioned about her is the historicness of her being a black woman as Vice President. She is bound to fall to any not 24/7 Hitler depicted presidential candidate.

Pete - The dude is super generic and really is just “I am the young Dem“ that Gen X can take to so they do not have to go with Biden. He is a false middle ground between Bernie and Biden that Dems prompt up hoping to win. The problem is that he has no appeal at all to Progressives, and him being gay is hated on by blacks and Muslims in the party adding to the Too-Big-Tent idea. He is basically the white soccer mom candidate, which is really weird to say, but you know it is true. Outside of extremely white audiences, what does this dude have.

AOC - Just instant turn off candidate that will rally up the radicals. I am sure there are even parts of Bernie’s base that thinks she is too far left. Gen X, normies, and Tulsi Progressives are likely to have it out with her, and she will not get any Republicans. She will certainly create huge rifts, which will be a problem for the old guard.

Unless Tulsi or someone like her ends up running, there really is no good choice come 24. It is either extreme left or establishment, no in between.
 

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I would argue against this, the right is far ahead of the left on taking hold of culture. While the effects are yet to show, I believe the Right’s future is especially bright. This election was an odd showing. The Republicans have support, but much of it is Gen Z, a generation that is still unable to vote for the most part. It seems that as you move farther down the generation, the more of a stronghold Trump has even in typically liberal areas. These people could not vote for Donny, so this election was really up to the older gens. Gen X and Millenials comprise the Democrat stronghold as they control the tv media and norm ie sites like FaceBook. Those things are dying off though, so the Republicans are being smart and taking over smaller sites that people under 40 would actually use.
While I do agree on the latter part that the Democrats are still going to go to war with their own party, I am very much blackpilled in the cultural front. I'm not pessimistic because the sentiment is not there, far from it, but the problem is that the left have so much ground on the cultural institutions that they will simply stamp out any sort of culture that doesn't bend to their whims.

I mean let's go from the beginning. Wokes take over popular franchises and push their ideology into brands they did not create and were merely given because fellow idealogues liked their politics. Fanbases decry these new productions, be it movies, games, comics, books, etc. The left then smugly tells them that if they are so concerned with the direction they're taking, then they should make their own IPs. To their surprise, the non-wokes do just that, and find quite a bit of success. The left, now embarrassed, then switches gears and contacs the publishers to cancel these new people. "Oh, you alt-right nazi, that's not a problem, just make your own publisher!" Then, they do just that, followed by the wokes once again changing tactics and contacting their fellow idealogues in fucking banks and payment processors so that the publisher can't take their customer's money. What is the right supposed to do then? Make their own banks and Paypals?

This carries on on many things, including alt-tech like Gab and Bitchute. Silicon Valley either contacts their friends in government/banks/financial institutions to shut them down or, if they become really big, buys them and are just added to the Silicon Valley machine. Trump and the GOP were warned many times that they should have taken action against Big Tech and cultural institutions and the only thing we got was Ted Cruz giving countless lectures to Zuck and Dorsey, them nodding their heads, and then continuing to do business as usual like a child that recieved a warning from their parents but no actual punishment.

The Right does have a path forward, but they're going to have to find a way that doesn't account for culture. They're just fucked now unless the whole Hollywood/Big Tech/Silicon Valley machine comes crushing down.
 

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While I do agree on the latter part that the Democrats are still going to go to war with their own party, I am very much blackpilled in the cultural front. I'm not pessimistic because the sentiment is not there, far from it, but the problem is that the left have so much ground on the cultural institutions that they will simply stamp out any sort of culture that doesn't bend to their whims.
The democrats will go to war with their party because that has happened so many times in the past. I remember the US civil war, and Joe Rogan on his history podcast showed me how the democrats split their party in two, having a northern democrat candidate and a southern one. We can see this happen so many times throughout history, like just look at it. It's gonna be Ben Shapiro epic style when the dems fuck themselves raw. Which will totally happen btw
 

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The democrats will go to war with their party because that has happened so many times in the past. I remember the US civil war, and Joe Rogan on his history podcast showed me how the democrats split their party in two, having a northern democrat candidate and a southern one. We can see this happen so many times throughout history, like just look at it. It's gonna be Ben Shapiro epic style when the dems fuck themselves raw. Which will totally happen btw
It's not going to be a war, I'll concede that. It'll be more of the Dems tard-wrangling the Squad because they have such a low minority on the House (unless some of the GOP cave in and they give their votes). Most Democrat voters are still cucks that will vote blue no matter what, even if the candidate literally shits on their bed, rigs the primaries against their candidates, and recanvasses so that they can get rid of AOC. What I'm trying to say is that the narrative that Bernie and his ilk are taking over the party is too optimistic for the far left. The establismeht is going to get rid of them in record time if they step out of line.

It doesn't matter in the end, they will always vote blue no matter what.
 

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It's not going to be a war, I'll concede that. It'll be more of the Dems tard-wrangling the Squad because they have such a low minority on the House (unless some of the GOP cave in and they give their votes). Most Democrat voters are still cucks that will vote blue no matter what, even if the candidate literally shits on their bed, rigs the primaries against their candidates, and recanvasses so that they can get rid of AOC. What I'm trying to say is that the narrative that Bernie and his ilk are taking over the party is too optimistic for the far left. The establismeht is going to get rid of them in record time if they step out of line.

It doesn't matter in the end, they will always vote blue no matter what.
I mean, I totally agree. Like, in no way will the democrats ever form a united front in their party, in the near future. That would be ridiculous given the circumstances. I just cannot ever wrap my mind around how the democrats will ever reconcile their differences. It's not even like they're on the same political wing or spectrum of the party or anything like that. The far left is too far left for the (already) far left business dems to reconcile their position.
 
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