What's the appeal of Trump? -

[KiwiFuzz]

I consider myself an open-minded person who is curious about the world. In that vein, I think one of the greatest mistakes of modern leftism as exemplified in the persons of Bill and Hillary Clinton, Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, and a few others is assuming that people who don't agree with them are ignorant, retarded, and evil. A basket of deplorables, if you will.

Hell, saying you don't agree with BLM and you think trannies are a bunch of perverts gets you branded as ignorant, retarded, and evil in mainstream discourse.

I didn't understand the Christian fundamentalists and I learned about them; I didn't understand the TERFs and now I proudly fly the green and purple battle axe; I didn't understand the alt right and here I am today.

I've been trying to understand the adulation that Trump supporters have for the man, and I'm falling short.

I've tried to educate myself and get another perspective. I've watched multiple full speeches of his, I went to one of his rallies, I try to check in to mainstream right-wing media such as FOX on the reg, and I just don't see it. I've never heard him say anything particularly interesting or profound, and his long speeches are just scattered thoughts, like hanging out with my grandma.

The best I can come up with is that he's mean in the broadest sense and vulgar in the broadest sense and that is the wellspring of his popularity.

EVERY TIME A LIBERAL CRIES, THIS COUNTRY BECOMES A BETTER PLACE.

But to me, this seems like the right wing cutting off its nose to spite its face.

For example, I feel like Trump and his supporters think that the BLM riots are advantageous to their side, and in some ways I get that, but he's the president and American cities are being reduced to smoking craters on his watch. I would respect him more if he sent in the feds and shut that shit down. Like if people are going to call you a fascist, you may as well polish up the jackboots and give 'em a show.

What am I missing here? Help me out.

 

[SIGSEGV]

He triggers and owns the libs.

 

[Kaiser Aura]

He triggers and owns the libs.

Apparently I'm following you around today @SIGSEGV

 

[SIGSEGV]

Apparently I'm following you around today @SIGSEGV

Stop that.

 

[Kaiser Aura]

Stop that.

It's not my fault that every time I click on a thread you just happen to have been there. You stop it.

 

[SIGSEGV]

You stop it.

No.

 

[Hylics]

Many of his supporters trust him implicitly regardless of what he says or does because they feel like he understands them. They feel like he stands up for the little guy and fights against the establishment and the toxic liberals and democrats. They believe he's just being stalled at every turn by socialism. That's how they're able to stick by him, no matter what.

Also, that ass.

Spoiler: Trump's Assets

 

[Kaiser Aura]

No.

And this is the appeal of Trump.

 

[The Shadow]

He's dummy thicc and has a great toupee

But for real, I think a lot of it came down to him not being a career politician or establishment candidate. So much of Hillary's campaign had this undercurrent of IT'S HER TURN like she earned her positions and didn't get a huge boost from being the First Lady.

 

[Chilson]

Serious answer: Trump is the classic populist. Obama's presidency was largely seen by the right as that of an elitist who was protected by the media and spit on the little man from an ivory tower of pure ego (at least, this is how the right view him and they are not entirely wrong to do so). Trump appeals to the common man through a vulgar "Fuck the elite" attitude and generally seems to be actually doing the things he promised (the wall is being built, healthcare reform is happening, bloated tax-inefficient programs are being cut, etc.).

Now, whether or not he is doing a good job with his reforms and promises is hotly debated and that is too much of a rabbit hole for me. It also doesn't hurt that Dems throw un-electable shit candidates at him to pile drive into the dirt.

As for the BLM riots, these are going on mostly in heavily urbanized liberal cities and, mostly, comes at the expense of Liberal politicians in the local area/state. Trump has no reason to go in unless federal property is being harmed or he is being asked to by the state's governor. Its to the conservatives benefit that liberal's attack one another and never stop your enemy if they are making a mistake and all that.

 

[knobslobbin]

He pisses off the libs. Good enough for me.

 

[Harlay de Champvallon]

Many of his supporters trust him implicitly regardless of what he says or does because they feel like he understands them. They feel like he stands up for the little guy and fights against the establishment and the toxic liberals and democrats. They believe he's just being stalled at every turn by socialism. That's how they're able to stick by him, no matter what.

Also, that ass.

Spoiler: Trump's Assets

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[DrainRedRain]

you can't stump the drumpf

 

[barbellister]

people like trump because he has a knack for creating newsworthy sound bites, which is a talent he probably developed in the television industry, and because he's a successful businessman who thumbs his nose at overly sensitive people. they like him for the same reason they like vince mcmahon

 

[Hypnopedosnake2]

I don't think he is perfect. He is also an ass kisser for Israel and there have been a few times where i have to scratch my head about.

But i think what he did well, is that he unveiled the hypocrisy of the corporate left and he did it so well, that they went crazy about it and unveiled more hypocrisy on their own. He also has the balls to call out china for the scumbags they are.

Even if he does lose to Joe Biden in November (which i don't think will happen) he woke several people up to the fact that corporate politicians, be it Democrats or Republicans, don't work for the people and that's a very good thing.

But i still wanna see him win, because it pisses people off and provides me with good entertainment.

 

[Ilackcreativity]

He pisses people off.
Is willing to stand up to China.
And he's better than Biden.

 

[Salubrious]

Trump is probably one of the least full of shit politicans, a sentence I cannot even believe I just wrote. That says more about politics than Trump to be fair.

Trump is full of shit all the time, but there seems to be at least a twinge of sincerity to it. I actually believe what this asshole thinks and what he says are the same most of the time.

Meanwhile, the Democratic side, which I've been my entire life and my values still lean more left than right, are completely disingenous. I don't believe that they believe a single word of what they say. They basically run on a platform of "do whatever we say or you're a racist sexist homophobe transphobe and a terrible person." I've had a lot of stupid arguments with a lot of stupid Republicans in my life; many times being told that I'm stupid for thinking a certain way, but I've never been told by Republicans that I'm a terrible person for thinking this way.

 

[The Pink Panther]

A comeback of populist ideas for the right wing that Repubs havent offered since Reagan.

 

[Calandrino]

He probably won't deliberately try to destroy America, if that's a plus for you.

 

[Meat Target]

Serious answer: Trump is the classic populist. Obama's presidency was largely seen by the right as that of an elitist who was protected by the media and spit on the little man from an ivory tower of pure ego (at least, this is how the right view him and they are not entirely wrong to do so). Trump appeals to the common man through a vulgar "Fuck the elite" attitude and generally seems to be actually doing the things he promised (the wall is being built, healthcare reform is happening, bloated tax-inefficient programs are being cut, etc.).

Now, whether or not he is doing a good job with his reforms and promises is hotly debated and that is too much of a rabbit hole for me. It also doesn't hurt that Dems throw un-electable shit candidates at him to pile drive into the dirt.

As for the BLM riots, these are going on mostly in heavily urbanized liberal cities and, mostly, comes at the expense of Liberal politicians in the local area/state. Trump has no reason to go in unless federal property is being harmed or he is being asked to by the state's governor. Its to the conservatives benefit that liberal's attack one another and never stop your enemy if they are making a mistake and all that.

I don't think he is perfect. He is also an ass kisser for Israel and there have been a few times where i have to scratch my head about.

But i think what he did well, is that he unveiled the hypocrisy of the corporate left and he did it so well, that they went crazy about it and unveiled more hypocrisy on their own. He also has the balls to call out china for the scumbags they are.

Even if he does lose to Joe Biden in November (which i don't think will happen) he woke several people up to the fact that corporate politicians, be it Democrats or Republicans, don't work for the people and that's a very good thing.

But i still wanna see him win, because it pisses people off and provides me with good entertainment.

Trump is probably one of the least full of shit politicans, a sentence I cannot even believe I just wrote. That says more about politics than Trump to be fair.

Trump is full of shit all the time, but there seems to be at least a twinge of sincerity to it. I actually believe what this asshole thinks and what he says are the same most of the time.

Meanwhile, the Democratic side, which I've been my entire life and my values still lean more left than right, are completely disingenous. I don't believe that they believe a single word of what they say. They basically run on a platform of "do whatever we say or you're a racist sexist homophobe transphobe and a terrible person." I've had a lot of stupid arguments with a lot of stupid Republicans in my life; many times being told that I'm stupid for thinking a certain way, but I've never been told by Republicans that I'm a terrible person for thinking this way.

A comeback of populist ideas for the right wing that Repubs havent offered since Reagan.

Michael Moore, of all people, said it the best back in 2016:

"For many Americans, voting for Trump is going to be the biggest 'fuck you' in history, and it is going to feel good."