When Cousins Marry (Genetic Disorder Documentary) -

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So this popped up in my youtube recs. Basically showing how in Pakistani communities in Britain, a lot of people marry their first cousins, and its causing a big spike in rare genetic disorders.
One featured family has 6 kids and 4 of them are deaf-blind and intellectually disabled. Apparently the risk of them having disabled kids was 1/4.

Basically, tldr incest is bad. :c
 

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Huh, my relatives are incest couple who always bragged that their kids are gonna be super smart because of this.
'Because, you know, jews do that and they are very smart!'
Their third kid is super rеtarded
MFW they say this thing about jews :story: :story: :story: :story: :story:
Edit: i can't english(
 
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iirc 1st cousin marriage only marginally increases the chances of awful stuff happening to your kids if it's a one-time event. The issues only start popping up when you do it repeatedly through the generations (and only if you're unlucky enough to be a latent carrier for some bad polymorphisms)
But yeah at some point these people should either be sterilized or forced to outbreed. Thankfully their line is probably going to end soon, but nature's equilibrium methods are really cruel.
 

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The issues only start popping up when you do it repeatedly through the generations (and only if you're unlucky enough to be a latent carrier for some bad polymorphisms)
Exactly this, its a cultural thing so its gonna keep happening. In the film they talk how children are emotionally blackmailed by their families into arranged marriages with their cousins, even one saying her husband's parents went on hunger strike and threatened suicide if she backed out of the marriage. It's all about bringing dishonour to the family name :c
 

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Incest is really fascinating as a topic
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The Habsburgs are also pretty fun; Charles II of Spain "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

And he still tried having kids. Life... uhm... finds a way...
 

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Incest is really fascinating as a topic
The Habsburgs are also pretty fun; Charles II of Spain "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."

And he still tried having kids. Life... uhm... finds a way...
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The Chad Charles Hapsburg vs the Virgin Cleopatra Ptolemy
 

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Exactly this, its a cultural thing so its gonna keep happening. In the film they talk how children are emotionally blackmailed by their families into arranged marriages with their cousins, even one saying her husband's parents went on hunger strike and threatened suicide if she backed out of the marriage. It's all about bringing dishonour to the family name :c
It'll happen until enough people realize that having your name become synonymous with incestuous retards is, in fact, not very honorable.
 

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In order to study the effects of consanguinity on IQ, a survey was conducted among the Ansari Muslims of Bhagalpur residing in suburban and rural areas. Both outbred (N=390 from suburban areas andN=358 from rural areas) and inbred (N's=300 and 266, respectively) children aged 9 to 12 years from socioeconomically middle-class families were administered the Weschler Intelligence Scale for Children—Revised [WISC(R)-74]. The coefficient of inbreeding, F, was .0625. The inbred children showed lower verbal (20 and 22%) and performance (30 and 20%) subtest scores and lower verbal (11 and 11%), performance (17 and 12%), and full-scale (15 and 12%) IQs. A three-factor analysis of variance performed on the full-scale IQ scores indicated that both consanguinity and locality affect IQ. The interaction between these two facors was also significant. Neither age nor sex affected these scores. Overall, subjects' performance scores were lower than verbal scores.

The aim of this study was to assess the impact of consanguinity on risk for mental disorders especially in primary health care-PHC settings. It was decided to ascertain prevalence of common mental disorders and consanguinity. We set out to study the burden of commonest psychiatric disorders among consanguineous marriages at PHC using the WHO Composite International Diagnostic Interview (WHO-CIDI) and examine their symptom patterns and co-morbidity in Qatar. A prospective cross sectional study was carried out over a year between November 2011 to October 2012. A total of 2.000 Qatari subjects aged 18 to 65 years were approached; 1.475 (73.3%) gave consent and participated in this study. Prevalence of psychiatric disorders using the WHO Composite International Diagnostic Interview (CIDI, version 3.0) showed that six most common disorders were major depression disorders (18.3%), any impulse control condition (18.3%), any anxiety disorders (17.2%), any mood disorders (16.9%), followed by separation anxiety disorders (15.2%), personality disorder (14.1%). The mean age ± SD of the 1.475 subjects interviewed was 39.3 ± 9.8 years. The rate of consanguinity in the present generation was 31.5% [95% CI = 29.1–33.7]. There were statistically significant differences between consanguineous and non-consanguineous with regards to age, educational status, occupation status, household income as well as BMI, cigarette smoking and sheesha smoking. One-fifth of all adults who attended the PHC center 20% had at least one psychiatric diagnosis. The prevalence of the generalized anxiety disorders; social phobia, specific phobia, major depression, and personality disorders were significantly higher in consanguineous marriages than in non-consanguineous.

Another interesting read-up:
M. M. Consanguinity, mental health, Muslims 5. Dezember 2018 6 Minutes
Short url: wp.me/papuj6-s
Average consanguinity index in Muslim majority countries is between ~20% – 60% (eg. Turkey 21.1%, Arab countries: 20% – 50%, Afghanistan: 46,2%, Pakistan: 62.5%), resulting in low educational achievement (cf. situation in India) and many other medical and social deficits which correlate strongly with violent crime and social dysfunction. Tribal norms and Islamic suprematism don’t make it any better, to put it mildly.
  1. General information
  2. Specific information by countries

  1. General information:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25060273
    Consanguinity and dysmorphology in Arabs; Al-Gazali L1, Hamamy H.Incidence rates of congenital disorders among the 350 million inhabitants of Arab countries could be influenced via the people’s demographic and cultural characteristics.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765422Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs
    Ghazi O Tadmouri, Pratibha Nair, Tasneem Obeid, Mahmoud T Al Ali, Najib Al Khaja, and Hanan A Hamamy.Consanguineous marriages have been practiced since the early existence of modern humans. Until now consanguinity is widely practiced in several global communities with variable rates depending on religion, culture, and geography. Arab populations have a long tradition of consanguinity due to socio-cultural factors. Many Arab countries display some of the highest rates of consanguineous marriages in the world, and specifically first cousin marriages which may reach 25-30% of all marriages. In some countries like Qatar, Yemen, and UAE, consanguinity rates are increasing in the current generation. Research among Arabs and worldwide has indicated that consanguinity could have an effect on some reproductive health parameters such as postnatal mortality and rates of congenital malformations. The association of consanguinity with other reproductive health parameters, such as fertility and fetal wastage, is controversial. The main impact of consanguinity, however, is an increase in the rate of homozygotes for autosomal recessive genetic disorders.
  2. https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1226/p09s01-coop.htmlClan loyalty fixed by cousin marriage was always bound to undermine democracy in Iraq. […] Cousin marriage, especially the unique form practiced in the Middle East, creates clans of fierce internal cohesiveness and loyalty. So in addition to sectarian violence in Iraq, the US may also be facing a greater intensity of inter-clan violence than it saw in Vietnam or the ferocious Lebanese civil war. […]Anthropologist Stanley Kurtz has described Middle East clans as „governments in miniature“ that provide the services and social aid that Americans routinely receive from their national, state, and local governments. No one in a region without stable, fair government can survive outside a strong, unified, respected clan. […]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2613253Consanguinity and reproductive health in Iraq.This study investigated the consanguinity rate of 233 families with severely disturbed reproductive health […], the rate of congenital malformations was found to be highly correlated with the consanguinity rate of these families.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765422%5B…%5D Negative Effects of Consanguinity on Reproductive HealthConsanguinity and Congenital MalformationsApproximately 3-5% of all live newborns have a medically significant birth defect. The recent report by March of Dimes estimated birth defects to be >69.9/1000 live births in most Arab countries, as opposed to <52.1/1000 live births in Europe, North America and Australia [27]. Lower observed rates of 7.92/1000 births and 12.5/1000 births were registered in the UAE and Kuwait, respectively [28,29]. In Oman, among 21,988 births, 24.6 per 1000 births had major malformations [30]. Differences in birth defect rates in different countries and studies could be attributed to true differences among different populations or to different definitions of birth defects, different methods, and different time periods for ascertainment. The risk of birth defects in first-cousin marriages may be estimated to be 2-2.5 times the general population rate, mainly due to the expression of autosomal recessive disorders [23,31-33]. Another estimate puts the offspring of first cousin unions at a 1.7-2.8% increased risk for congenital defects above the population background risk. […]Frequency of consanguineous marriages was higher among parents of offspring with congenital malformations compared with the figures for the general population in all studies reported among Arabs, including in the UAE [28,35-37], Kuwait [29], Oman [30,38,39], Iraq [40,41], Jordan [42,43], Egypt [44], Lebanon [4,45], Tunisia [46], Arabs in Jerusalem [33], and Saudi Arabia [47].
  1. Afghanistan
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21729362
    US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health; Journal of Biosocial Science; 2012 Jan; 44(1):73-81; Saify K., Saadat M.Consanguineous marriages: 46.2%. The study shows that Afghanistan’s populations, like other Islamic populations, have a high level of consanguinity.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748901Violence, suffering, and mental health in Afghanistan: a school-based surveyTwo thirds of children reported traumatic experiences. […] Children’s most distressing traumatic experiences included accidents, medical treatment, domestic and community violence, and war-related events.https://www.theguardian.com/global-...kles-hidden-mental-health-epidemic-therapists
    Afghanistan tackles hidden mental health epidemic; 2 Sep 2015;Domestic violence […] is rampant in Afghanistan, and is often unleashed by trauma.A UN-sponsored survey found that in 2005, 16.5% of Afghans suffered from mental disorders. The problem is likely to have grown since then.http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2016_EN_18925.pdf?ua=1
    World Health Organization, Regional Office for the Eastern Mediterranean
    Afghanistan health profile 2015; Regional Office for the Eastern Mediterranean;The prevalence of disability is 2.7 and is higher among males (3.1%) than females (2.3%) (15). Prevalence is highest in the age group of 10–19 years (23.5%) and lowest among those aged 50–59 years (8.0%)(2012). Of the types of disability, 36.5% are physical, 25.5% are visual, 18.8% are intellectual and 9.7% are mental (15). Multiple disabilities constitute 9.4% of all disabilities (15).

    https://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/case-studies/tackling-mental-health-afghanistan_en
    European Commission; International Cooperation and Development; January 2014 – May 2015;
    A survey conducted in 2004, the last available, found 68% of respondents suffering from depression, 72% from anxiety and 42% from post-traumatic stress disorders.
  2. Pakistan
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346199
    Consanguineous marriages in Pakistan.[M]ore than half of ever married women aged 15-49 were married to their first cousins. The inclusion of second cousins raised the percentage of consanguineous marriages from 50.3 to 61.2. Another 1.3% were married to other relations […]Among females the educational status was important with respect to marriages to first cousins: 52.2% had no education […]http://www.jpma.org.pk/full_article_text.php?article_id=4036A consecutive sample of 5000 families of Armed Forces personnel was analysed […] The overall frequency of inbreeding was 76% with a coefficient of 0.04151 which is probably the highest figure reported in literature. The overall prevalence of congenital malformations in children of related parents was 40% […]. Considering the prevalence of malformations with the types of relationship of parents, the inter-marriage with first cousins alone, was highly significant […]The effects of consanguinity on such parameters as fertility, infant and child development, mortality and morbidity are well known and havebeen studied in American, Japanese and Indian populations. Perinatal malformation related mortality has recently been studied in Europeans and Pakistanis settled abroad.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/he...to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html
    First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to ‚appalling‘ disabilities among children. Baroness Flather, a cross-bench peer, says it is ‚absolutely appalling‘ that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to ’so much disability among children‘
    https://ieet.org/index.php/IEET2/more/pellissier20120526Themental risk is convincing enough for me to list consanguinity as a hazard factor in two of my previous IEET essays, Brain Damage – 83 ways to stupefy intelligence, and Six Brain Damage Scourges that Cripple IQ in SubSaharan Africa. […]Is Change Possible?Does the half-way solution – genetic testing for cousin couples – actually work? Largely, overwhelmingly, NO. The UK’s National Health Service (NHS) provides genetic counseling to consanguineous couples, but that 13X factor that the BBC reported suggests that the option is generally ignored. […]

    Another barrier that’s perhaps even more imposing than cultural distrust is found in a a Saudi study that discovered, “90% of couples detected as carriers did not follow the advice they were given and went ahead with their marriages.” Couples aimed at matrimony, it seems, either believe in “fate” or in odds that will favor the health of their family.
  3. Turkey
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7864588
    Consanguineous marriage in Turkey and its impact on fertility and mortality.
    Tunçbílek E1, Koc I.Turkey has a high rate of consanguineous marriage (21.1%)
  4. Morocco
    https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2017/07/224718/mentally-ill-mental-health-care-morocco
    One Out of Two People Is Mentally Ill: Gruesome Reality of Mental Health Care in Morocco
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19433002
    Consanguineous marriages in Morocco and the consequence for the incidence of autosomal recessive disorders.Prevalence of consanguinity: 15.25% […] The differences in the rates of consanguineous marriages were highly significant when comparing the general population and couples with offspring affected by autosomal recessive conditions. These results place Morocco among the countries in the world with high rates of consanguinity. Autosomal recessive disorders are strongly associated with consanguinity.
  5. Egypt
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110863013000037
    Consanguineous marriage is still high in Egypt (35.3%)The association between consanguinity and genetic defects is well demonstrated in previous studies performed on well known autosomal recessive disorders among Egyptian patients such as hearing loss and phenylketonuria [26], [27]. Hamamy reported that, rare and novel autosomal recessive disorders have been widely reported from communities with high consanguinity rates, including Arabs, since the main impact of consanguinity is an increase in the prevalence of such disorders [28].
  6. Somalia
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16520881
    Over a third of subjects had any mental disorder (36.4%, 28.4-44.4), mainly common mental disorders (CMD) (33.8%, 26-41.5) and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (14%, 8.8-20.8). …Conclusion:
    Public health interventions for Somalis should focus on CMD as well as PTSD, khat use and mental health screening for suicide risk and mental disorders on arrival.
TL;DR - cousin fucking makes for dumb children and for mentally ill children. It increases symptoms of psychotic-like and violent behavior.
 

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The Habsburgs are also pretty fun; Charles II of Spain "did not contain a single drop of blood; his heart was the size of a peppercorn; his lungs corroded; his intestines rotten and gangrenous; he had a single testicle, black as coal, and his head was full of water."
There were good reasons for all of this. having crippled children is worth a kingdom. they also didnt have 1/4 retarded children.
they had one dominate genetic defect, a deformed chin.
 

wylfım

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Another interesting read-up:
M. M. Consanguinity, mental health, Muslims 5. Dezember 2018 6 Minutes
Short url: wp.me/papuj6-s
Average consanguinity index in Muslim majority countries is between ~20% – 60% (eg. Turkey 21.1%, Arab countries: 20% – 50%, Afghanistan: 46,2%, Pakistan: 62.5%), resulting in low educational achievement (cf. situation in India) and many other medical and social deficits which correlate strongly with violent crime and social dysfunction. Tribal norms and Islamic suprematism don’t make it any better, to put it mildly.
  1. General information
  2. Specific information by countries

  1. General information:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25060273
    Consanguinity and dysmorphology in Arabs; Al-Gazali L1, Hamamy H.Incidence rates of congenital disorders among the 350 million inhabitants of Arab countries could be influenced via the people’s demographic and cultural characteristics.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765422Consanguinity and reproductive health among Arabs
    Ghazi O Tadmouri, Pratibha Nair, Tasneem Obeid, Mahmoud T Al Ali, Najib Al Khaja, and Hanan A Hamamy.Consanguineous marriages have been practiced since the early existence of modern humans. Until now consanguinity is widely practiced in several global communities with variable rates depending on religion, culture, and geography. Arab populations have a long tradition of consanguinity due to socio-cultural factors. Many Arab countries display some of the highest rates of consanguineous marriages in the world, and specifically first cousin marriages which may reach 25-30% of all marriages. In some countries like Qatar, Yemen, and UAE, consanguinity rates are increasing in the current generation. Research among Arabs and worldwide has indicated that consanguinity could have an effect on some reproductive health parameters such as postnatal mortality and rates of congenital malformations. The association of consanguinity with other reproductive health parameters, such as fertility and fetal wastage, is controversial. The main impact of consanguinity, however, is an increase in the rate of homozygotes for autosomal recessive genetic disorders.
  2. https://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1226/p09s01-coop.htmlClan loyalty fixed by cousin marriage was always bound to undermine democracy in Iraq. […] Cousin marriage, especially the unique form practiced in the Middle East, creates clans of fierce internal cohesiveness and loyalty. So in addition to sectarian violence in Iraq, the US may also be facing a greater intensity of inter-clan violence than it saw in Vietnam or the ferocious Lebanese civil war. […]Anthropologist Stanley Kurtz has described Middle East clans as „governments in miniature“ that provide the services and social aid that Americans routinely receive from their national, state, and local governments. No one in a region without stable, fair government can survive outside a strong, unified, respected clan. […]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2613253Consanguinity and reproductive health in Iraq.This study investigated the consanguinity rate of 233 families with severely disturbed reproductive health […], the rate of congenital malformations was found to be highly correlated with the consanguinity rate of these families.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2765422%5B…%5D Negative Effects of Consanguinity on Reproductive HealthConsanguinity and Congenital MalformationsApproximately 3-5% of all live newborns have a medically significant birth defect. The recent report by March of Dimes estimated birth defects to be >69.9/1000 live births in most Arab countries, as opposed to <52.1/1000 live births in Europe, North America and Australia [27]. Lower observed rates of 7.92/1000 births and 12.5/1000 births were registered in the UAE and Kuwait, respectively [28,29]. In Oman, among 21,988 births, 24.6 per 1000 births had major malformations [30]. Differences in birth defect rates in different countries and studies could be attributed to true differences among different populations or to different definitions of birth defects, different methods, and different time periods for ascertainment. The risk of birth defects in first-cousin marriages may be estimated to be 2-2.5 times the general population rate, mainly due to the expression of autosomal recessive disorders [23,31-33]. Another estimate puts the offspring of first cousin unions at a 1.7-2.8% increased risk for congenital defects above the population background risk. […]Frequency of consanguineous marriages was higher among parents of offspring with congenital malformations compared with the figures for the general population in all studies reported among Arabs, including in the UAE [28,35-37], Kuwait [29], Oman [30,38,39], Iraq [40,41], Jordan [42,43], Egypt [44], Lebanon [4,45], Tunisia [46], Arabs in Jerusalem [33], and Saudi Arabia [47].

  1. Afghanistan
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21729362
    US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health; Journal of Biosocial Science; 2012 Jan; 44(1):73-81; Saify K., Saadat M.Consanguineous marriages: 46.2%. The study shows that Afghanistan’s populations, like other Islamic populations, have a high level of consanguinity.https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2748901Violence, suffering, and mental health in Afghanistan: a school-based surveyTwo thirds of children reported traumatic experiences. […] Children’s most distressing traumatic experiences included accidents, medical treatment, domestic and community violence, and war-related events.https://www.theguardian.com/global-...kles-hidden-mental-health-epidemic-therapists
    Afghanistan tackles hidden mental health epidemic; 2 Sep 2015;Domestic violence […] is rampant in Afghanistan, and is often unleashed by trauma.A UN-sponsored survey found that in 2005, 16.5% of Afghans suffered from mental disorders. The problem is likely to have grown since then.http://applications.emro.who.int/dsaf/EMROPUB_2016_EN_18925.pdf?ua=1
    World Health Organization, Regional Office for the Eastern Mediterranean
    Afghanistan health profile 2015; Regional Office for the Eastern Mediterranean;The prevalence of disability is 2.7 and is higher among males (3.1%) than females (2.3%) (15). Prevalence is highest in the age group of 10–19 years (23.5%) and lowest among those aged 50–59 years (8.0%)(2012). Of the types of disability, 36.5% are physical, 25.5% are visual, 18.8% are intellectual and 9.7% are mental (15). Multiple disabilities constitute 9.4% of all disabilities (15).

    https://ec.europa.eu/europeaid/case-studies/tackling-mental-health-afghanistan_en
    European Commission; International Cooperation and Development; January 2014 – May 2015;
    A survey conducted in 2004, the last available, found 68% of respondents suffering from depression, 72% from anxiety and 42% from post-traumatic stress disorders.
  2. Pakistan
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12346199
    Consanguineous marriages in Pakistan.[M]ore than half of ever married women aged 15-49 were married to their first cousins. The inclusion of second cousins raised the percentage of consanguineous marriages from 50.3 to 61.2. Another 1.3% were married to other relations […]Among females the educational status was important with respect to marriages to first cousins: 52.2% had no education […]http://www.jpma.org.pk/full_article_text.php?article_id=4036A consecutive sample of 5000 families of Armed Forces personnel was analysed […] The overall frequency of inbreeding was 76% with a coefficient of 0.04151 which is probably the highest figure reported in literature. The overall prevalence of congenital malformations in children of related parents was 40% […]. Considering the prevalence of malformations with the types of relationship of parents, the inter-marriage with first cousins alone, was highly significant […]The effects of consanguinity on such parameters as fertility, infant and child development, mortality and morbidity are well known and havebeen studied in American, Japanese and Indian populations. Perinatal malformation related mortality has recently been studied in Europeans and Pakistanis settled abroad.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/he...to-appalling-disabilities-among-children.html
    First cousin marriages in Pakistani communities leading to ‚appalling‘ disabilities among children. Baroness Flather, a cross-bench peer, says it is ‚absolutely appalling‘ that first cousin marriages in Pakistani communities are leading to ’so much disability among children‘
    https://ieet.org/index.php/IEET2/more/pellissier20120526Themental risk is convincing enough for me to list consanguinity as a hazard factor in two of my previous IEET essays, Brain Damage – 83 ways to stupefy intelligence, and Six Brain Damage Scourges that Cripple IQ in SubSaharan Africa. […]Is Change Possible?Does the half-way solution – genetic testing for cousin couples – actually work? Largely, overwhelmingly, NO. The UK’s National Health Service (NHS) provides genetic counseling to consanguineous couples, but that 13X factor that the BBC reported suggests that the option is generally ignored. […]

    Another barrier that’s perhaps even more imposing than cultural distrust is found in a a Saudi study that discovered, “90% of couples detected as carriers did not follow the advice they were given and went ahead with their marriages.” Couples aimed at matrimony, it seems, either believe in “fate” or in odds that will favor the health of their family.
  3. Turkey
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7864588
    Consanguineous marriage in Turkey and its impact on fertility and mortality.
    Tunçbílek E1, Koc I.Turkey has a high rate of consanguineous marriage (21.1%)
  4. Morocco
    https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2017/07/224718/mentally-ill-mental-health-care-morocco
    One Out of Two People Is Mentally Ill: Gruesome Reality of Mental Health Care in Morocco
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19433002
    Consanguineous marriages in Morocco and the consequence for the incidence of autosomal recessive disorders.Prevalence of consanguinity: 15.25% […] The differences in the rates of consanguineous marriages were highly significant when comparing the general population and couples with offspring affected by autosomal recessive conditions. These results place Morocco among the countries in the world with high rates of consanguinity. Autosomal recessive disorders are strongly associated with consanguinity.
  5. Egypt
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1110863013000037
    Consanguineous marriage is still high in Egypt (35.3%)The association between consanguinity and genetic defects is well demonstrated in previous studies performed on well known autosomal recessive disorders among Egyptian patients such as hearing loss and phenylketonuria [26], [27]. Hamamy reported that, rare and novel autosomal recessive disorders have been widely reported from communities with high consanguinity rates, including Arabs, since the main impact of consanguinity is an increase in the prevalence of such disorders [28].
  6. Somalia
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16520881
    Over a third of subjects had any mental disorder (36.4%, 28.4-44.4), mainly common mental disorders (CMD) (33.8%, 26-41.5) and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) (14%, 8.8-20.8). …Conclusion:
    Public health interventions for Somalis should focus on CMD as well as PTSD, khat use and mental health screening for suicide risk and mental disorders on arrival.
TL;DR - cousin fucking makes for dumb children and for mentally ill children. It increases symptoms of psychotic-like and violent behavior.
Barring controversy around IQ (though it was specifically made to measure mental re.tardation so I would say it's probably fine in this case), I wonder if the consanguinous group had a bimodal IQ distribution, with some kids turning out normal and average and some being severely handicapped, or whether it was just a simple right-ward shift of the out-bred group's distribution.


There were good reasons for all of this. having crippled children is worth a kingdom. they also didnt have 1/4 exceptional children.
they had one dominate genetic defect, a deformed chin.
They weren't just physically crippled, they suffered from multiple mental defects too. I'm too lazy to pull up specifics but Charles V had epilepsy, for one, and I wouldn't be surprised if most of the line suffered from "fits of madness." They also had child mortality rates up to 50%, extremely long development times (Charles II was raised as an infant until he was 10, "he didn't learn to talk until he was four and couldn't walk until the age of eight."), and they ended up dying out because they physically could not breed anymore.
So sure, they kept their kingdom together for a couple hundred years, until they were so weak that nature removed them from the gene pool. Not a great long-term strategy imo.
 

Crunchy Leaf

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Huh, my relatives are incest couple who always bragged that their kids are gonna be super smart because of this.
'Because, you know, jews do that and they are very smart!'
Their 3th kid is super rеtarded
MFW they say this thing about jews :story: :story: :story: :story: :story:
Jewish couples are frequently advised to get genetic testing before they have children because of this. Since screening for Tay-Sachs disease (the most common Jewish genetic disease) was introduced in the 70s, rates of Jews born with it have gone down by 90%. Ashkenazi Jews (the ones who are Diet White and invented bagels) are way less likely to marry their cousins than the ones who stayed in the Middle East, though.

Here's a map showing where first and second cousin marriages are most prevalent that I stole from Wikipedia.
cousinmarriageworldwide.png
 

wylfım

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Jewish couples are frequently advised to get genetic testing before they have children because of this. Since screening for Tay-Sachs disease (the most common Jewish genetic disease) was introduced in the 70s, rates of Jews born with it have gone down by 90%. Ashkenazi Jews (the ones who are Diet White and invented bagels) are way less likely to marry their cousins than the ones who stayed in the Middle East, though.

Here's a map showing where first and second cousin marriages are most prevalent that I stole from Wikipedia.
View attachment 893992
I am disappointed they did not include West Virginia and Mississippi as separate data points.
 

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If you've ever walked around an area with a heavy hasidic population, you can see the physical effects of generational incest. In general, they're physically hideous (and not just because "lol jews"), and, conservative estimate here, 85% of them need glasses. Nothing against glasses, but when the bulk of your population has failing eyesight, you may have wrecked your shit
 

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"No such thing as hearing loss, just Deaf gain!"
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