When did you hit peak SJW and why? - Get off the woke train and see through the bullshit that is identity politics!

[Drain Todger]

1. They destroyed the the Occupy Wall Street Movement out of sheer spite for working class people. The last breath of legitimate liberalism and a call for genuine wealth reform got pozzed to hell and back until it was nothing but progressive stack bullshit. Their champagne faux socialism and sheer contempt for working class America fills me with all kinds of rage.

Ahh, yes. The Revolution of the Proletariat... of guys with MacBooks who wear sweatshop-made skinny jeans and drink ten-dollar lattes, and hair-dyed hambeasts with Communications degrees and Netflix subscriptions.

 

[Legoshi]

I have always been a liberal, but because I grew up very poor, in a small town with a lot of black people and white people who actually got along just fine, it’s impossible to make me feel guilt over privilege. I’m immune.

So as long as it was about you know, sure, let the gays get married, has nothing to do with me plus it’s tied to benefits and rights so as long as churches aren’t being forced to participate, ok. Or well, I don’t mind throwing extra resources at black people to try to help them out, etc, for a while, but I always felt it should have limits, and expire, and come to think of it...I always did think it sounded ok to require women to get IUDs, or preferably have their tubes tied, to receive welfare. Didn‘t say it, but thought it. Am technically pro-choice, but find support for abortion rights incompatible with the accompanying liberal distaste for the death penalty. I think the only problem with the death penalty is unfair and inconsistent implementation. In theory, I fully support it, and in reality, in most cases, I do as well.

I am also of Scots-Irish Southern US heritage, which means I understand black people very very well, since as Thomas Sowell has identified, rednecks are rednecks whether they’re white or black. I don’t have to tiptoe around them like they’re some exotic creature.

Additionally I am adopted, and my parents were old as hell when they adopted me, which means that while everybody else had Boomer or even early GenX parents, I had Silent Generation parents. A dad who never made more than $27k/yr in his life, always doing manual labor, and a mom who saved grease to reuse later and didn’t believe in Tupperware when there’s perfectly good Country Crocks right there. This is how I know that black culture is just Southern Poverty culture, they’re just more likely to fight dogs than roosters. Trash stay being trash, you see.

So all this adds up to a certain amount of natural resistance to this sort of thing, as well as a latent Scots-Irish tendency to want to be left alone, for everyone to get the fuck off my property (literally as well as metaphorically) since I will absolutely never go onto yours, and to really fucking resent people telling me what to do - or more specifically, what to say, or not to say.

I began peaking on troons and SJWs on Tumblr. For troons, it was stumbling upon auntiewanda, then LarpsandtheRealGirl. I don’t even like lesbians in the sense that every lesbian I have ever met and known was a lesbian was offputting because in retrospect, they didn’t do the polite upbeat thing I as a southern girl expect, ie smile back when smiled at, and returning overtures in a pro-social way. I realize now maybe that’s a lot of autism and lesbians just not experiencing female socialization the same way I did. Anyway, so seeing thousands of absolutely horrific attacks from troons - whom I had previously assumed were all gigagays - demanding sex from them was a serious red pill.

Meanwhile, SJWs. I don’t write or read fanfic, my productive engagement with fandom is going to be criticism, not creation or curation. But when TFA came out, just seeing the absolute insanity that was that fandom over intersectional shipper bullshit...bloop.

Race, pretty sure I’m just peaking with everyone else over the past couple years, organically, due to the behavior of black people, politicians, and the media. It did start with irritation over fandom shit too, though. Go away and let me enjoy my content. This is my dance space. I don’t go into yours, you don‘t go into mine. I mean, come on in, as long as you want to dance to the same music, but...otherwise stay out.

Ultimately I‘m just a white Karen with a normal family and life, feeling like she’s no longer allowed to live and let live, and being fed the fuck up with the seemingly endless downward spiral of degeneracy.

Modern-day social justice activism in the west feels very corporate and unorganic. The Civil Rights Movement started up from the ground after years of struggles during the 60s and they came about naturally from marginalized people organizing to learning to convince people to join the cause. Nowadays how do some of these activists believe they're so "oppressed" when corporations bend over and outlets who believe they're on the "right side" of history very rarely question them. It's a win win for both the activists and corporations.

 

[Afinepickle]

Ahh, yes. The Revolution of the Proletariat... of guys with MacBooks who wear sweatshop-made skinny jeans and drink ten-dollar lattes, and hair-dyed hambeasts with Communications degrees and Netflix subscriptions.

Yeah. About the only thing me and the legit hardcore Marxist/Commie crowd agree on is that these faggots need to be up against the wall and it needed to happen yesterday.

 

[Marshal Mannerheim]

Ahh, yes. The Revolution of the Proletariat... of guys with MacBooks who wear sweatshop-made skinny jeans and drink ten-dollar lattes, and hair-dyed hambeasts with Communications degrees and Netflix subscriptions.

There's never a bad time to post this meme:

 

[Reshiram Battle.mp3]

Got cannibalized on tumblr as a child for having wrongthink about asexuals (the big lgbt discourse that was going on when I was just some confused faggot child, where having no opinion is worse than having the incorrect one.) voiced opinion, recieved the typical kys anonymous shit that you hear most of the same people sending it say is Harmful And Evil Cyberbullying!!1! that they have 0 hesitations throwing at a child, which would've been immediately obvious since I was a retard and had age listed in bio.

This wasn't the main turning point (the slow build up of experience in seeing constant performative woke-ism, the promotion of permanent and life changing [often catastrophic] surgery and HRT to literal kids as the end-all be all must attain standard for transgenderism, and the uwuification of horrific communist regimes make up much more of the reason) but it was the first tip into realizing its just a den of two faced snakes constantly trying to outdo eachother in brownie point Olympics and that if anyone even prods at the bubble of their worldview they throw away any semblence of virtue or being a good person they uphold to strangle opposition.
No wonder they larp as commies.

 

[polyqueerandrosensual]

In 2015 when everyone began being anti-white and began seeing me as lesser for being such, and the spaces I went to for support no longer supported me.

 

[MichaelScarn]

I'm gonna sound like a f*ggot but the night Trump was elected, I sat around a fire with two other SJW friends and we just sobbed and sobbed.

Less than a year later, I found r/gendercritical. [ETA: RIP gendercritical. I worry for the women that don't have access to that immediate resource any longer because you're not fucking alone in your completely rational thoughts about what is happening! The second best option is KiwiFarms lol] That changed my life. I realized I'm basically a second wave feminist because I believe men and women should have equal rights to property, voting, jobs but holyyyy shit I would never call myself a "feminist" under the terms current "feminists" are using. They're sucking dick for 10 bucks on OnlyFans and claiming it's feminist because it's "empowering." All white men are evil. And "feminism" also now means that black women should be in charge of everything. Kevin Allred who has a somewhat entertaining thread here (that I haven't caught up on in a while) for example says in his Twitter bio, "Vote how Black women vote" or some shit. That's not feminism. That's not equality. It's just elevating another "identity" based on how you're born. It's somehow bigoted now to believe that things like jobs or getting into good schools should be completely merit-based.

Anyway, I think once you discover the (increasingly obvious) fallacies in trans ideology, and the inherent degeneracy, it really snowballs into seeing through all the other SJW/leftist bullshit.

Only a couple of people know my true politics. If Trump ran again, I'd probably vote for him. This would give my family a heart attack.

 

[Noir drag freak]

I am not political so I was never a social justice warrior. I am at the point where I think that most social movements full of shit. Most social movements are driven by pure self-interest.

 

[Radola Gajda]

Never really I was blisfully ignorant of situation in West until 2015 when I saw pressure from France , Germany... On my country goverment to accept 1000s of undocumented 30 years old Middle- Eastern children who are all Doctors, engineers, IT technics....
That I started to learn about situation in the West and at this point all I can do is laugh at how absurd situation is there.

 

[Sage In All Fields]

The most SJW I ever got was believing the regular taglines, the wage gap, patriarchy etc but I'm Muslim and as a result aside from those taglines the programming hadn't really penetrated so when I was 13 or so and what was then called the Quinnspiracy came along I ended up slowly waking up to the reality of their corrosive ideology.

 

[Groon]

Growing older.

I used to be pretty sjw in my early 20s. Not in today's levels, of course. But still quite liberal. However, someday I hit the 30s and went through metamorphosis all healthy adult brains goes and I became a nazist, facist, opressive, etc good man.

 

[melty]

I've pretty much always hated them. As people often note, they started up sometime around occupy wall street. At that time they started infesting some of the livejournal comms I was in and causing problems. They all repeated the same lines, threw fits over nothing, couldn't have a logical argument or explain their beliefs at all, and generally acted like narcissistic children throwing tantrums of they didn't get their way. They were also the biggest bullies in these comms, both before and after they got infested with the SJW virus. So immediately I figured out these people were moronic lowlifes that all happened to share the same shit ideology they could barely explain. Then they migrated to Tumblr and got worse. If only I knew how bad things could get.

 

[Ebonic Tutor]

I've pretty much always hated them. As people often note, they started up sometime around occupy wall street. At that time they started infesting some of the livejournal comms I was in and causing problems. They all repeated the same lines, threw fits over nothing, couldn't have a logical argument or explain their beliefs at all, and generally acted like narcissistic children throwing tantrums of they didn't get their way. They were also the biggest bullies in these comms, both before and after they got infested with the SJW virus. So immediately I figured out these people were moronic lowlifes that all happened to share the same shit ideology they could barely explain. Then they migrated to Tumblr and got worse. If only I knew how bad things could get.

Their first major appearance being at Occupy Wall St. wasn't an accident, it was by design and meant to disrupt the movement. (It worked even better than they could have imagined!)

 

[Drain Todger]

I had a bit of an epiphany the other day when I did some deep thunkin’ about what the problem is with SJWs, critical theory, critical race theory, et cetera. It’s really an ontological problem. SJWs are essentially asserting that it is impossible to have accurate knowledge about anything beyond sense states. In the SJW cosmology, there is no shared, mind-independent reality. This is the main point of contention between SJWs and non-SJWs. Literally everything about their worldview can be reduced to this one problem.

Philosophy has many unsolved problems. What are qualia? What is consciousness? How do people experience experiences?

Science has been unable to locate consciousness in the brain (a.k.a. The Hard Problem of Consciousness). Because of that, there are competing theories on what constitutes a mind. Dualism asserts that the mind and body are separate, or even that the mind is the product of a soul. Monism asserts the opposite, that the mind arises in matter and matter alone, and the mind and body are the same thing.

Because our theory of the mind is incomplete, we don’t even know if the things observed by our minds are objectively real, or merely illusions. This leads to all sorts of problems, particularly the idealism-realism split.

See, in order to discover reality, you have to use your mind. Because you’re using your mind, and because we have no theory of what consciousness actually is, we can’t be certain that anything we’re seeing is definitively real (i.e. I cannot prove or disprove that I am a brain in a jar, or the only person on the planet who is conscious). Therefore, reality remains undiscovered. This is the idealist position.

The realist position is the exact opposite. It asserts that there is a firm, mind-independent reality that would continue to exist exactly the way it presents itself, even absent any conscious observers to see it.

SJWs are very strict idealists, in the sense that they reject reality entirely and use idealism as a justification. You can’t persuade an SJW to abandon a position by using evidence rooted in reality, because you are trying to get them to cross the idealism-realism gap. Your facts about reality are their opinions about sensory data. Why do you think they prioritize “lived experience” so much? It’s because they live entirely inside their minds. There is nothing outside of them. Everything and everyone they know is merely a hallucination inside their head, infinitely mutable and malleable. In postmodernism, reality may exist, but even so, it is impossible to know anything about it. In other words, the SJW position is that knowledge about reality is actually impossible.

https://www.spaceandmotion.com/Philosophy-Realism-Idealism.htm

Most opponents of SJWism, whether they realize it or not, subscribe to some form of realism. From the perspective of the strict realist, racial crime and IQ statistics, for example, are real because they describe some concrete aspect of reality. Likewise, that transgender individual over there is just a man in a dress surgically and chemically altered to resemble a woman, and so on and so forth. The assertion is that a mind-independent world of matter exists, and that its structure is immutable; there are facts about nature and we can perceive them accurately.

This is a very difficult gap to bridge, because the mode of thinking is fundamentally different. In the SJW’s mind, reality is cruel and indifferent, nature is brutal, and one person’s facts are another person’s immeasurable pain. Therefore, they flee into idealism and postmodernism, which promise to act as a soothing balm for their discomfort.

You can never persuade them with uncomfortable facts without first getting them to abandon idealism. It’s impossible.

 

[Retired Junta Member]

Having been semi-involved with the movement (which was then in its infancy) during my high school years, I didn't need a peak moment as I had the dubious privilege of seeing it change from within.
I could write an essay on the subject but, not wanting to bore you, I'll just list the things that caused me a rude awakening:

• The age of the so-called activists, getting younger and younger
• The effort required from these so-called activists: continuous, huge, almost a job
• This effort was redirected towards increasingly grandiose and unrealistic goals, to be achieved ever more quickly
• The sense of unreality that pervaded the whole thing: at the beginning seminars and debates were sensible, valid and focused on current and interesting topics. Gradually we moved on to talking about increasingly specific and detached from everyday life topics.
• The sense of constant tension: internal quarrels, external disputes, events to be organized, the world against us.
• Last but not least: nothing is enough.

 

[Unheard Bird]

The whole lunacy that is the gender fandom.

 

[Lemmingwise]

When I was in a poly triangle giving an interview with my 2 girlfriends for a documentary and then another one for a book and I realised that their answers were painting a very different picture of the relationship than how I saw it.

It was already a slow buildup of the things I was learning from the subject they both graduated university on; gender studies.

 

[Locke And Doula]

Peaked around the tail end of my college days when the feminism that I believed in--equality and dignity to both genders, giving women the opportunity to take on life's shit on equal grounds, and looking at someone's character and drive not their gender--was no longer aligned with the feminism that I saw online and in my circles.

I was all "Why are they now harping on feminism? I mean there's always gonna be detractors and misogynists, but they're all describing a definition of feminism that is alien to what I knew feminism was". Turned out I had grown up with values of the "second wave" of feminism and that this new chimera that was emerging was completely divorced from the virtues I believed in.

Living in such a shit country where women don't have the same baseline equal rights as even the minorities of the poorest first world countries really made me despise the self-righteous and ridiculous demands these alphabet people and colorful haired women were toting.

Additionally, I always had SJW tumblr friends that I got when I participated in fandoms in my teens. Tolerated them and played along for the most part because it was mostly chicks, and I was a lonely nice guy that just had to learn a few star signs and weird rules to fit right in. Eventually, everyone grew old and grew out of that phase, and when I check them out now, the ones that have fully gone nuts were the ones that were always unhinged and very vocal about their gender identities. Like, the gays and the lesbians and the bis--when I check on them now--mostly harmless, integrated, and normal. But those who I saw had the seeds of troonery in them and full SJW spirit? I will forever remember as being on the ground floor before they became their own lolcows.

 

[nggrfggt]

When I was in a poly triangle giving an interview with my 2 girlfriends for a documentary and then another one for a book and I realised that their answers were painting a very different picture of the relationship than how I saw it.

It was already a slow buildup of the things I was learning from the subject they both graduated university on; gender studies.

I'm intrigued, please elaborate

 

[Retired Junta Member]

When I was in a poly triangle giving an interview with my 2 girlfriends for a documentary and then another one for a book and I realised that their answers were painting a very different picture of the relationship than how I saw it.

It was already a slow buildup of the things I was learning from the subject they both graduated university on; gender studies.

Are you... are you the guy with the finger ring tattoo??