When will anime become Politically Correct? -

[InsolentGaylord]

On certain places people believe anime is already, or already has, become sanitized and made politically correct according to western standards. There was that one anime recently that had an aborted run half way through that had a non-binary character, and people on twitter keep getting outraged whenever an anime has a character with big breasts at this point. Not to mention the censorship from Sony and Funimation as of late.

I've also heard of some anime with western feminist undertones, but I can't recall the names of them off the top of my head. You guys think anime has been successfully westernized or will be in the near future?

 

[bot_for_hire]

If there is going to be any censorship, it will be on China - one of the most important markets for anime. Laws there PROHIBIT depicting on TV/streaming anything sexual (big tits, nudity etc.), homosexuality, 'superstition', gore, anti-government themes (terrorism etc.).

 

[L50LasPak]

I think Japanese and Western culture just have different taboos so frankly, I would say the answer is "never". The mainstream stuff may become more dialed back, but people complain that the mainstream stuff is for stupid normies or whatever anyway, so I really don't see this changing any time soon.

 

[Distant Stare]

It would be interesting to see how the genre changes with that. Eastern story telling is character based, and Western story telling is plot based. This Western animation can afford to have bland plastic progressive characters more than Eastern stories can.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

I don't think the genre as a whole will ever become politically correct, but I wouldn't be surprised if the dubs of some shows will become politically correct as a marketing gimmick in a couple of years.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

There's many efforts to bring western thought to Japan, and it seems to be making progress (largely among younger woman). The huffington post and buzzfeed are consistently featured on Twitter's trending (which is a big deal since nearly everyone in twitter uses twitter as much as Trump).
I think anime fans will be more open to western thought and dogma than Japan's aging population. Japan as a whole country will remain more conservative, but thats because of its older population remaining around for so long, even if the younger generations become more progressive.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Japan is a different country with a different culture and anime is always first and foremost made for a Japanese audience, so I just don't see it going "woke" in the way western media has, why would Japan give a single shit what a bunch of Americans are whining about on Twitter?

That said US publishers are definitely going woke and will try to make dubs as woke as they can under the guise of "localization" as I'm already starting to see leftist weebs trying to normalize it as like this for example

So dubs may be history, which is really too bad as I've always enjoyed a good dub, but I can also very easily live with watching everything subbed.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

There's many efforts to bring western thought to Japan, and it seems to be making progress (largely among younger woman). The huffington post and buzzfeed are consistently featured on Twitter's trending (which is a big deal since nearly everyone in twitter uses twitter as much as Trump).
I think anime fans will be more open to western thought and dogma than Japan's aging population. Japan as a whole country will remain more conservative, but thats because of its older population remaining around for so long, even if the younger generations become more progressive.

Don't see any evidence for it trending among younger women. I would believe the HuffPo and Buzzfeed trending on twitter though (but what articles)?

 

[Hypnopedosnake2]

There's many efforts to bring western thought to Japan, and it seems to be making progress (largely among younger woman). The huffington post and buzzfeed are consistently featured on Twitter's trending (which is a big deal since nearly everyone in twitter uses twitter as much as Trump).
I think anime fans will be more open to western thought and dogma than Japan's aging population. Japan as a whole country will remain more conservative, but thats because of its older population remaining around for so long, even if the younger generations become more progressive.

It's not a secret that Twitter can manipulate and censor certain trends. Besides, Twitter should not be seen as the voice of the people.

As for Japan Anime going woke, i would say not in the near future, or atleast for the next 10 years. Western culture has tried to westernize Japan as early as the 16th century, when the portugese came over first.

It always depends who comes into power in their country.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

Don't see any evidence for it trending among younger women. I would believe the HuffPo and Buzzfeed trending on twitter though (but what articles)?

Various things, but they put out lgbtq stuff at least once a week that gets "trending", as well as stuff about being black/non-japanese in Japan.
There's a popular idol game among women where one of the characters came out as a troon (enstars). Its not that Japan has never had gays or stuff like that, but you see more and more western symbols (like the pride flag) and terms (like lgbtq+) appearing in various places, especially on social media.

 

[verissimus]

Japan is a different country with a different culture and anime is always first and foremost made for a Japanese audience, so I just don't see it going "woke" in the way western media has, why would Japan give a single shit what a bunch of Americans are whining about on Twitter?

Pretty much. It will only go "woke" if Japan does so too, the CCP be damn, and I just can't see the Japanese going "woke" any time soon.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

It's not a secret that Twitter can manipulate and censor certain trends. Besides, Twitter should not be seen as the voice of the people.

As for Japan Anime going woke, i would say not in the near future, or atleast for the next 10 years. Western culture has tried to westernize Japan as early as the 16th century, when the portugese came over first.

It always depends who comes into power in their country.

Well who is in power can be swayed since Japan is a democracy now. As western media gains more and more influence, it'll be easier for the west to control who gets into power.
Not to mention there are hundreds of videos about Westerners going to Japan to show how 'bad' it is. There's a lot of people in the west who think that Japan needs to be 'fixed' in various ways, and these people aren't just in the media.

 

[K. V. Bones]

Woke culture is already fighting a losing battle, given they cant brainwash where they already are i doubt japan will care.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Various things, but they put out lgbtq stuff at least once a week that gets "trending", as well as stuff about being black/non-japanese in Japan.
There's a popular idol game among women where one of the characters came out as a troon (enstars). Its not that Japan has never had gays or stuff like that, but you see more and more western symbols (like the pride flag) and terms (like lgbtq+) appearing in various places, especially on social media.

I know you point this out, but I'd just like to say that Japan has always had it's LGBT element, Japanese media references transgenderism way more than western media did before it became trendy for example.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that.

It comes down to this, the Japanese are never going to hate themselves the way so many white westerners have been brainwashed into hating themselves, it's just not in their nature, so woke will never gain the inroads it has in the west because what it's all fundamentally about, self hatred and a desire for self annihilation, just isn't going to work there.

Also, Japan likes sex, despite being a "conservative" country they've always had a taste for some good old pussy, there's not the hang ups and the guilt there like there is in western culture.

 

[KingCoelacanth]

I know you point this out, but I'd just like to say that Japan has always had it's LGBT element, Japanese media references transgenderism way more than western media did before it became trendy for example.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that.

It comes down to this, the Japanese are never going to hate themselves the way so many white westerners have been brainwashed into hating themselves, it's just not in their nature, so woke will never gain the inroads it has in the west because what it's all fundamentally about, self hatred and a desire for self annihilation, just isn't going to work there.

Also, Japan likes sex, despite being a "conservative" country they've always had a taste for some good old pussy, there's not the hang ups and the guilt there like there is in western culture.

The big issue I have is that western media will use that as a way to break into Japanese politics. "there's always been these little elements in Japanese society, so now let us tell you what those elements really mean". Basically since element X has had a minor presence in Japanese culture, the Japanese must accept A, B and C as well.
Also, you don't necessarily need self-hatred for this stuff. Just convincing them that society has problems that people can and need to fix could be enough. Or the could just import white hatred into the country, "you only oppose A, B and C because evil whites brainwashed to. Japan has always celebrated A, B and C"

 

[Schway]

It'll happen eventually, I don't know why people seem to think that japan is immune. If you look back to how the western world looked before this shit took root it was pretty easy to say "this kind of stuff will never work here", hell people were still saying that about whatever little corner of the world they had (such as STEM, The US South whatever). It's already started if you know where to look, there's universities in japan that have courses like :
"African Americans, Equality and the Law: Weapon or Tool?",
"Politics of Identity in America "
"Special Topics in Asian Studies I: Social Inequality in Asia"
"Japan in a Changing World Order S"

A university recently replaced its beauty contest with basically a social justice contest(Who had the best cause, was most "interesting" and such), reasons the students who campaigned for this cited were that it separated masculinity and femininity, promoted lookism, objectified women ect. Not to mention the BLM protests that were held there recently. Yes, it's happening only in certain areas, usually the ones with some foreign pop or at least foreign ties but that's how this stuff starts.

This "japan is immune, they're different!" stuff is a huge cope and is basically helping this shit out. You'll have the same cycle but faster there and people will be saying "It's not SJW, it's normal, it's always been this way, it's human rights" until it goes far enough that they don't have to.
The Japanese people are less inclined to speak out and more conformist, if anything there will be less people willing to speak out. It'll be a Japanese strain of PC for sure, but it will be the same in all the important ways.

Anime is a huge industry in japan and a good export of their culture, it will definitely be one of the first places they'll get at. There was already a surprisingly woke anime movie, called something like Japan underwater 2020 or something. If you want to see how it will happen just look at what happened to comics/games/movies and imagine it faster and quieter. As for how soon? Until they get as bad as the western industry is? 15-20 years maybe, not sure.

I personally can't wait for the first shaniqua-san.

 

[InsolentGaylord]

It'll happen eventually, I don't know why people seem to think that japan is immune. If you look back to how the western world looked before this shit took root it was pretty easy to say "this kind of stuff will never work here", hell people were still saying that about whatever little corner of the world they had (such as STEM, The US South whatever). It's already started if you know where to look, there's universities in japan that have courses like :
"African Americans, Equality and the Law: Weapon or Tool?",
"Politics of Identity in America "
"Special Topics in Asian Studies I: Social Inequality in Asia"
"Japan in a Changing World Order S"

A university recently replaced its beauty contest with basically a social justice contest(Who had the best cause, was most "interesting" and such), reasons the students who campaigned for this cited were that it separated masculinity and femininity, promoted lookism, objectified women ect. Not to mention the BLM protests that were held there recently. Yes, it's happening only in certain areas, usually the ones with some foreign pop or at least foreign ties but that's how this stuff starts.

This "japan is immune, they're different!" stuff is a huge cope and is basically helping this shit out. You'll have the same cycle but faster there and people will be saying "It's not SJW, it's normal, it's always been this way, it's human rights" until it goes far enough that they don't have to.
The Japanese people are less inclined to speak out and more conformist, if anything there will be less people willing to speak out. It'll be a Japanese strain of PC for sure, but it will be the same in all the important ways.

Anime is a huge industry in japan and a good export of their culture, it will definitely be one of the first places they'll get at. There was already a surprisingly woke anime movie, called something like Japan underwater 2020 or something. If you want to see how it will happen just look at what happened to comics/games/movies and imagine it faster and quieter. As for how soon? Until they get as bad as the western industry is? 15-20 years maybe, not sure.

I personally can't wait for the first shaniqua-san.

Would have been nice for you to cite sources for the University.

 

[Samson Pumpkin Jr.]

The international elite have a stranglehold on all banking worldwide. They have control of everything because they have the money. One day all countries will speak English and once the majority of Japanese know some english the jewish backed financial mongrel demonic interests of progressive oikophobic billionaires and trillionaires will pump their ideology, like sewage, into Japan. So long as the US remains as the sole global hegemon it is inevitable that Japan learns English.

what I'm saying is that we need to kill the US to preserve Japanese culture

 

[Syaoran Li]

I know you point this out, but I'd just like to say that Japan has always had it's LGBT element, Japanese media references transgenderism way more than western media did before it became trendy for example.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that.

It comes down to this, the Japanese are never going to hate themselves the way so many white westerners have been brainwashed into hating themselves, it's just not in their nature, so woke will never gain the inroads it has in the west because what it's all fundamentally about, self hatred and a desire for self annihilation, just isn't going to work there.

Also, Japan likes sex, despite being a "conservative" country they've always had a taste for some good old pussy, there's not the hang ups and the guilt there like there is in western culture.

I could definitely see Japanese culture and Japanese pop culture/entertainment like anime going "woke" but not because of the West. It will be because of China.

Unless we get another really bad monsoon season that levels Three Gorges Dam, China's going to be the big one. @Schway does bring up good points about Western expats trying to bring Woke Leftism into Japan via the universities and how it could be an issue, but "Japan will never go woke" isn't quite a cope since Japan is notoriously xenophobic as well as conservative.

Western SJW's and their attempts to convert Japanese youths are like an ill-tempered bluegill compared to the Rage-infected Megalodon with a frickin' BFG 9000 on its head that is China and the CCP's brand of leftism.

It has been for a while if you've seen the absolute state of dubs. Those tendrils spread back to Japan either through companies like CR, Funi or Soyny. Funimation's multiple blunders over the last 4 years shows they already have a "get woke go broke" mentality, the kind that has already impacted many formerly successful franchises. There was also Israel-chan's recent unveiling, meaning Japan is definitely gonna be Zogged into Steven Universe tier soon.

Israel-chan is more or less a gimmick for the Israeli embassy. A lot of Japanese institutions and companies do similar characters for countries, prefectures, companies, tourist attractions, etc.

Agreed on Funimation and Sony's dubs being woke as fuck. Funi could collapse though and it will cause more fans to pirate older dubs and go to subs for newer shows

 

[electroanalogicACDC]

In a loose sense of the word, Anime is already politically correct and always has been.
There's this extremely stupid idea among perma-online weeb right-wingers that Japan is le based anti-SJW facts over feelings country.
That's far from the truth.

Cancel Culture exist in Japan, but has a different political alignment. Try mentioning any of Japan's war crimes against Manchuria, Korea or the Han Chinese and you will lose your employment, your house, and potentially your life. Try to say that the nuking of Japan was a good strategic decision and the same will happen to you.
And if such weeb right-winger mongoloids weren't so fucking ignorant they would realize that censorship runs rampant in Anime. Since ancient times, Japan has no problems towards homos and lesbos, homosexual and lesbic relationships are often censored when anime is dubbed and adapted for Western and muslim countries, as Judeochristian and islamic cultures see homosexuality as a terrible abomination while Far-Easterns not so much, Sailor Moon is an excellent example of this.