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When will the United States collapse
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Then we start playing junta.
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There are many ways to collapse. Financial, economic, and political collapse happen frequently. The truely horrific social collapse people think about in post apocalyptic larping is likely a long ways off.
Financial collapse, however, is likely closer than any american enjoying well paid and abundant work would like to think. The stock market is right now the most over-valued it has ever been thanks to the Bush/Obama response to the 2008 recession. The stock market is rich on cheap debt, but poor in actual assets. Take Tesla for example. Their market cap (46 billion $) is greater than that of GM by 3 billion, despite not having 1/10 the physical assets or sales of the behemoth that is GM.
The stock price is just cheap debt, and it's value is only derived from the faith people have in it to deliver.
Now here's the scary part: everyone with a 401k is dependent on faith based value for their retirement to support them for 20-30 years.
I expect a financial collapse that guts the 401k system to hit in 1-5 years. The loss of the petrodollar due to decreased geopolitical clout will mean the cheap debt party is over since we are no longer printing the paper everyone wants, and the markets will collpase catastrophically. This will leave a legion recently retired, frothing at the mouth baby boomers in poverty and dependent on government handouts. The other stages of collapse will follow, and how quickly depends on how civil the boomers are.
Financial collapse, however, is likely closer than any american enjoying well paid and abundant work would like to think. The stock market is right now the most over-valued it has ever been thanks to the Bush/Obama response to the 2008 recession. The stock market is rich on cheap debt, but poor in actual assets. Take Tesla for example. Their market cap (46 billion $) is greater than that of GM by 3 billion, despite not having 1/10 the physical assets or sales of the behemoth that is GM.
The stock price is just cheap debt, and it's value is only derived from the faith people have in it to deliver.
Now here's the scary part: everyone with a 401k is dependent on faith based value for their retirement to support them for 20-30 years.
I expect a financial collapse that guts the 401k system to hit in 1-5 years. The loss of the petrodollar due to decreased geopolitical clout will mean the cheap debt party is over since we are no longer printing the paper everyone wants, and the markets will collpase catastrophically. This will leave a legion recently retired, frothing at the mouth baby boomers in poverty and dependent on government handouts. The other stages of collapse will follow, and how quickly depends on how civil the boomers are.
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School of thought says a new being will be born of Trump’s death. A new star god that will bring a glorious resurgence. Or at least there was, until THEY realized there wasn’t much money in that school of thought.
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When the first woke president gets elected.
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The USA hasn't even outlasted most of the shitty Chinese dynasties.
Perhaps its death will be economic but there really isn't any serious challengers at the moment. Every other society is becoming overly bureaucratic but the USA is the only one that maintains the advantage of freedom.
Perhaps its death will be economic but there really isn't any serious challengers at the moment. Every other society is becoming overly bureaucratic but the USA is the only one that maintains the advantage of freedom.
JustStopDude
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Water and food. This is how nations implode. As long as enough people can eat, a government can barely hang on...see Zimbabwe and Venezuela.
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2021/2022
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It's either when we let another guy who is dumber than Trump become President or an insane troon finally gets their way and most of an generation or two is rendered sterile transgender and we have an labor shortage.
Failing that, there's the unsustainable housing costs, like what California is going through; but that could happen anywhere.
Failing that, there's the unsustainable housing costs, like what California is going through; but that could happen anywhere.
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Why, when the lolcows and gamers rise up of course.
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Do you honestly think things will stay the same forever? Within 20-50 years, tops.
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I haven't watched it for ages but wasn't the final conclusion of the documentary that it's the media's fault for overhyping fear or something, not the guns?
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I don't know, the proportion of androgynous troons has massively increased just this past year alone from my experience. Let's not forget about college campuses increasingly become toxic environments where little to no actual learning occurs, with postmodernism starting to infiltrate even the hard sciences. Ever try convincing a progressive liberal anything? Even the ones that hate radical leftism have a very subjective view of society, where nothing can be know objectively and no argument is true because "logical fallacies". This is the GenZ that will grow up to rule our country. While we're not at Randian levels of punishment for success, we're gradually getting there.
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FEMA better start stockpiling Monster Zero Ultra at distribution centers across the country then.
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When pomo takes over society
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When we get a @FemalePresident