Where's all the right-leaning creatives? -

[JokahBaybee]

This is something that's genuinely been bugging me for ages. One of the fuckiest things about my life, it seems, is that while my personal political beliefs and convictions lean right, any fandom I partake in is created and/or populated exclusively by lefties.
Cosplay is a hugbox of queer teens,
left-wing anarkiddies think any and all alternative fashion belongs to them by definition,
independent animation/video games are often created by people who through cultural coercion or genuine belief spout left-wing talking points on twitter,
and anything that gets a massive fanbase of people creating fan content tends to be mostly the kind that will attack or distance themselves from you if you criticize blm/transgenderism/what have you.
Meanwhile, What do I see happening creatively on the right?
Barely anything. If they have the balls to talk about their opinions at all, most likely the content they produce will be rambling youtube videos, because that's the one and only stake they have in any sort of media. And even then, when lefties make political content on youtube, like with breadtube, they make a big deal of it, wearing fancy costumes and having elaborate lighting in a 40+ min video essay, however shallow that extra layer of production value may be. Meanwhile, Jeremy from TheQuartering shits out 20 minute recordings of himself reading a news article, adding scant discussion of it, and calls it a day, rinse and repeat. Why is it that left-leaning people tend to create content that gets massively popular whereas I struggle to see anyone right of "floyd did nothing wrong" making an indie game/fanart of that indie game/webcomic/animation/cosplay/fashion statement, and moreover why doesn't it even get the chance to be popular, even if it has no political message behind it?

 

[retard strength]

They're probably working and/or raising kids. Most creative and expressive endeavors get pushed to the back burner or kept private to protect their families.

 

[💗Bitchstopher Columbitch💗]

1. Creating controversial things can get you cancelled and exiled from the community.

2. What gets popular is often influenced by who you know. Since the kingmakers of the creative world often lean left, they use their influence to promote other lefties and quash people whose opinions they disagree with.

3. Right wingers tend to be older people who have kids and jobs. Young people who have time to dream and create tend to lean left.

 

[Small-arms Supremacy]

Banned on every platform.

 

[big potato]

Living in the forest, making wood carvings or something.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

I think most have been completely deplatformed by now, outside of people like Ben Garrison and Stonetoss.

 

[Big Ruski]

Rights are more reactors then creators.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

Where are the left-wing creatives...

 

[DeadFish]

Because conservitives are often told get a real job. Being an artist doesnt pay the bills.

 

[XYZpdq]

yeah I've heard than a few right-y style people observe that right wingers are busy with real jobs and shit

 

[Fast Inverse Square Root]

Right wingers like boundaries. Art is about pushing boundaries. There are right wingers who have made interesting art, but it's an exception rather than the rule.

 

[Apotheosis of the Liver]

You should read the Homestuck thread.

 

[Boston Brand]

More common than people think, less than some people would like.

 

[JokahBaybee]

3. Right wingers tend to be older people who have kids and jobs. Young people who have time to dream and create tend to lean left.

What do we do about that then? It's not as if dreaming and creating is inherently left (like so many of them like to say). I think the main reason they tend to lean left is because everything they like leans left and creatively-focused online communities that have any moderation tend to be run and inhabited lefties (the tranny moderator problem). How do we go about shifting the balance so that more creatives can be accommodated if they aren't totally politically correct? Because here's the main problem: say I'm a right-leaning creative and I want my work to get popular, do I:
A: swallow my dignity and nod along with the lefties so I can get connections and clout, and keep my platform?
or B: immediately out myself for wrong think and doom myself to whatever small potatoes communities the right cares to scrounge together, having been shadowbanned/actual banned off of every platform I could hope to promote my work?
If you care more about making art than politics, and let's face it, most (good) artists don't care about politics, right or left, you'll pick option A because that's the better of two bad options.

Where are the left-wing creatives...

This hit the nail on the head. It's not that left-wing people are naturally more creative, it's just that since they won the culture war against the fundies in the 90s, they have since then had the image of the side that accommodates art and creatives, and thanks to being in charge of the media, they've managed to perpetuate that impression. Also, since they tend to be terminally online, they're the biggest, most rabid and creatively autistic demographic when it comes to fandoms and things like that, so they're usually the first to hop onto the next Homestuck, or hazbin hotel, or what have you and shape the culture around it.
What I think needs to happen, is not that we have some spirited right wing art movement, because that sounds autistic, but more that we make the creative internet seem as apolitical as it actually is, and that the vocal minority of lefty loons is just that, a minority, and most actual artists only pretend to care.

 

[Bland Crumbs]

This hit the nail on the head. It's not that left-wing people are naturally more creative, it's just that since they won the culture war against the fundies in the 90s, they have since then had the image of the side that accommodates art and creatives, and thanks to being in charge of the media, they've managed to perpetuate that impression. Also, since they tend to be terminally online, they're the biggest, most rabid and creatively autistic demographic when it comes to fandoms and things like that, so they're usually the first to hop onto the next Homestuck, or hazbin hotel, or what have you and shape the culture around it.
What I think needs to happen, is not that we have some spirited right wing art movement, because that sounds autistic, but more that we make the creative internet seem as apolitical as it actually is, and that the vocal minority of lefty loons is just that, a minority, and most actual artists only pretend to care.

I think letting the left continue to humiliate themselves will work well enough. The Oscars this year was a huge blow they can not explain away. Their base is less then 10m people who are locked in their cages. Good luck selling soap.

 

[GeorgeFloyd]

Being openly right wing in an artistic community business isn't a good idea. Being open about your politics is actually just gay in general.

 

[Agent Nahman Jayden]

I'd think if there are right-leaning creatives aside from media like videos, you wouldn't know about it because there's so much pressure to keep your thoughts, beliefs and opinions to yourself if you don't openly accept and agree with what louder left-leaning creatives say and do.

Being honest about what you think and how you feel when you're surrounded by people who are eager to shut you down and try to ruin your life over a joke or benign observation made half a decade ago, as mentioned previously, isn't a good idea.

 

[Carlos Weston Chantor]

Right-leaning creatives of what? Of cartoons for adults? The idea that a large percent of the society should be "creative" and "create" works of "art" or "culture" is inherently leftoid. Women should create babies. Men should create themselves to be strong and self-reliant, like God intended them to be. The only thing a man should create is a family. A man should create a household for himself. This is actually creating something that matters, unlike doodling a comic strip. Do you need so much to read right-leaning comic books, watch right-leaning cartoons and collect right-leaning funko pops?

 

[DumbDude42]

where are they? cancelled, excommunicated, stonewalled, blacklisted out of the industry
this has been going on for longer than most of us here have been alive, to the point where any right leaning person now knows that going into any of these fields is basically impossible so don't even bother

 

[JokahBaybee]

Right-leaning creatives of what? Of cartoons for adults? The idea that a large percent of the society should be "creative" and "create" works of "art" or "culture" is inherently leftoid. Women should create babies. Men should create themselves to be strong and self-reliant, like God intended them to be. The only thing a man should create is a family. A man should create a household for himself. This is actually creating something that matters, unlike doodling a comic strip. Do you need so much to read right-leaning comic books, watch right-leaning cartoons and collect right-leaning funko pops?

Autistic Trad-LARPers like you are another reason nobody likes to call themselves right wing. It's embarrassing, stop it.