Which is more cringe: ageplay/ddlg or furries?

[Chichan]

At least the ageplayers gave us some good copypasta

Daddy be nimble Daddy be quick Daddy has a rock hard dick ! cummy cummy cummy ! Daddy cums so much he can't cum any more! Ghost cummy Ghost cummy don't be scared! There's always more cummies that can be shared! Daddy makes me ☁squishy☁ Daddy makes me wetDaddy treats me like his little pet! Send this to 69 TRUE Daddy's or else you'll never get any cummies again

I hated that shit so, much people would superchat people to actually say this shit. I just wonder if any of our internet famous friends would say this with enough money cough...Jim...cough.

 

[SmileyTimeDayCare]

I don't like your description of ageplay, but it doesn't sound like abuse. It sounds more like an adult living out their fantasies of being/fucking a child through the use of props, costumes and another consenting adult. I would rather they get their fix that way rather than risk them cajoling an actual child.

Similarly I wouldn't have any issues with furries if they kept their antics strictly in the bedroom, but I know quite well they've turned into a sort of sperg mafia. Money laundering, cries of fursecution, blackmail, getting into shootouts with the police, the works. They're consistently the worst group of people I find on the internet.

You've sold me. Furries are the more degenerate of the two. Someone should turn this into some kind of Tournament of Degeneracy.

 

[spurger king]

I know quite well they've turned into a sort of sperg mafia. Money laundering, cries of fursecution, blackmail, getting into shootouts with the police, the works.

Can't forget rainfurrest either. That level of IRL griefing is pretty based so I think furries are cooler than people who get off on larping as pedophiles/molestation victims.

 

[neverendingmidi]

Isn't it a horrific slurry of degeneracy between the two? God knows diaperfurs are becoming more common, along with trashbags of used diapers at furrycons.

 

[ZeCommissar]

"One should never rank evil, for if one is deemed the worst than one might be tempted to ally with the least."

 

[Spunt]

Furries are hilarious and mockable, but ddlg people make my skin fucking crawl in a visceral way.

 

[Webby's Boyfriend]

I metaphysically identify as a 16-year-old lassie and like to roleplay as one, does that make me one?

 

[saralovesjuicyfruit]

I always see ABDL fetish stuff conflated with pedophilia on this site. I think it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is about dressing and behaving like a baby/toddler that excites people with that fetish. It’s the fact that an adult is not supposed to wear a diaper and do baby stuff. An actual baby doing baby stuff doesn’t do anything for those people because it’s normal and not taboo.

That said, of course there are surely pedophiles who have diaper fetishes, just like there are surely pedophiles with every other type of fetish.

As for the question in the OP, any fetish is cringe if you’re putting it out there publicly and making it your core identity. I probably wouldn’t date anyone with either of these kinks though, even if they kept it private.

 

[Sigma]

I always see ABDL fetish stuff conflated with pedophilia on this site. I think it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is about dressing and behaving like a baby/toddler that excites people with that fetish. It’s the fact that an adult is not supposed to wear a diaper and do baby stuff. An actual baby doing baby stuff doesn’t do anything for those people because it’s normal and not taboo.

That said, of course there are surely pedophiles who have diaper fetishes, just like there are surely pedophiles with every other type of fetish.

As for the question in the OP, any fetish is cringe if you’re putting it out there publicly and making it your core identity. I probably wouldn’t date anyone with either of these kinks though, even if they kept it private.

Well, that and from what I know, it's more about them trying to recapture the feeling of being a kid. Where life is simple and you're generally happier.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I always see ABDL fetish stuff conflated with pedophilia on this site. I think it’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what it is about dressing and behaving like a baby/toddler that excites people with that fetish. It’s the fact that an adult is not supposed to wear a diaper and do baby stuff. An actual baby doing baby stuff doesn’t do anything for those people because it’s normal and not taboo.

People like to pretend that there's these clearly defined lines, like the idea of a noble thief, that only steals from x, or the idea of a code of honor among thiefs, or the good-hearted tender whore, or the kind richard gere john. It's nonsense; everything is one big slip 'n slide and you're always moving towards something. People that indulge in taboo activities are moving towards the other related activities in the same area. What I'm saying is that everything is a gateway drug.

Now there are various areas that are more acceptable than others, there are legal and illegal areas. It's completely sensible to be alarmed by people that sexualize baby-attire and baby-activity. You say it yourself; part of the appeal is that it's not normal and that it is taboo. You know what else is not normal and taboo? Pedophilia. It's just a more illegal and extremer expression of the same impulse.

 

[saralovesjuicyfruit]

People like to pretend that there's these clearly defined lines, like the idea of a noble thief, that only steals from x, or the idea of a code of honor among thiefs, or the good-hearted tender whore, or the kind richard gere john. It's nonsense; everything is one big slip 'n slide and you're always moving towards something. People that indulge in taboo activities are moving towards the other related activities in the same area. What I'm saying is that everything is a gateway drug.

Now there are various areas that are more acceptable than others, there are legal and illegal areas. It's completely sensible to be alarmed by people that sexualize baby-attire and baby-activity. You say it yourself; part of the appeal is that it's not normal and that it is taboo. You know what else is not normal and taboo? Pedophilia. It's just a more illegal and extremer expression of the same impulse.

I think it’s absurd to posit that if you like or are attracted to one thing that’s taboo, it’s inevitable that you’re going to do everything else that is taboo. Some guy who gets off on choking a girl out during sex (taboo) isn’t destined to move on to, I don’t know, starring in scat porn. Personal preferences are a thing that exists.

 

[Sigma]

People like to pretend that there's these clearly defined lines, like the idea of a noble thief, that only steals from x, or the idea of a code of honor among thiefs, or the good-hearted tender whore, or the kind richard gere john. It's nonsense; everything is one big slip 'n slide and you're always moving towards something. People that indulge in taboo activities are moving towards the other related activities in the same area. What I'm saying is that everything is a gateway drug.

Now there are various areas that are more acceptable than others, there are legal and illegal areas. It's completely sensible to be alarmed by people that sexualize baby-attire and baby-activity. You say it yourself; part of the appeal is that it's not normal and that it is taboo. You know what else is not normal and taboo? Pedophilia. It's just a more illegal and extremer expression of the same impulse.

I think there's much more nuance than that but I'm sure it's not related to pedophilia the vast majority of the time. Most of them want to be the baby, not mess with a real one.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

furries

at least dd/lg degeneracy involves people who want to act like they're human beings

 

[Lemmingwise]

I think it’s absurd to posit that if you like or are attracted to one thing that’s taboo, it’s inevitable that you’re going to do everything else that is taboo. Some guy who gets off on choking a girl out during sex (taboo) isn’t destined to move on to, I don’t know, starring in scat porn. Personal preferences are a thing that exists.

I think it's absurd to say that it never happens or that there is no connection at all. Obviously it isn't completely identical, but do you genuinely believe that the percentage of pedophiles in a pre-selected group of ABDL fetishists is identitical to random sample of population? I think that's very unlikely.

I'm not saying it's completely identical and I'm not saying that every single person with those fetishes are pedophiles. But they are in higher numbers and they are also habituazing themselves towards it.

This postmodern idea of all prefferences being in-born and that everybody is just "born this way", is completely at odds with reality. Our brains function mostly on loops and habits and everything that happens before dopamine boosts (orgasm / achievements / drugs / etc.) is something that gets reinforced very strongly. People that indulge in their every passion will grow more extreme in them compared to people that moderate their indulgement.

And people that habituate themselves to having orgasms with a partner in diapers end up using every kid related thing (including mode of speech, clothes and ways of interacting). They'll seek it out and a number of them will either take naughty pictures of their niece for their internet friends and that's one of the relatively benign active forms of pedophilia that grow out of watering this plant.

I think there's much more nuance than that but I'm sure it's not related to pedophilia the vast majority of the time. Most of them want to be the baby, not mess with a real one.

There always is more nuance, but it's rarely sensible starting with a completely nuanced position. And the last thing isn't accurate; the subcommunities tend to split nearly 50/50 (or more 40/40/20 as there's always the group of switch-hitters). And I know I'm gonna topple some sacred cows so it works better to charge in than to step in cautiously.

 

[Sigma]

I think it's absurd to say that it never happens or that there is no connection at all. Obviously it isn't completely identical, but do you genuinely believe that the percentage of pedophiles in a pre-selected group of ABDL fetishists is identitical to random sample of population? I think that's very unlikely.

I'm not saying it's completely identical and I'm not saying that every single person with those fetishes are pedophiles. But they are in higher numbers and they are also habituazing themselves towards it.

This postmodern idea of all prefferences being in-born and that everybody is just "born this way", is completely at odds with reality. Our brains function mostly on loops and habits and everything that happens before dopamine boosts (orgasm / achievements / drugs / etc.) is something that gets reinforced very strongly. People that indulge in their every passion will grow more extreme in them compared to people that moderate their indulgement.

And people that habituate themselves to having orgasms with a partner in diapers end up using every kid related thing (including mode of speech, clothes and ways of interacting). They'll seek it out and a number of them will either take naughty pictures of their niece for their internet friends and that's one of the relatively benign active forms of pedophilia that grow out of watering this plant.



There always is more nuance, but it's rarely sensible starting with a completely nuanced position. And the last thing isn't accurate; the subcommunities tend to split nearly 50/50 (or more 40/40/20 as there's always the group of switch-hitters).

 

[Lemmingwise]

What I write is a mix of the research I've read, personal observations, previous discussions and the conclusions I've drawn from that. What part are you skeptical about? For some parts I have nothing better than "I've seen it and I think this is what it's like". For some parts, I can source the research. Obviously you find some parts contentious.

This is Deep Thought forum; what part do you find hard to even consider being true?

 

[Sperghetti]

I think it’s absurd to posit that if you like or are attracted to one thing that’s taboo, it’s inevitable that you’re going to do everything else that is taboo. Some guy who gets off on choking a girl out during sex (taboo) isn’t destined to move on to, I don’t know, starring in scat porn. Personal preferences are a thing that exists.

I think a big distinction that needs to be made here, too, is individuals versus a group.

When we’re talking about individuals, there’s a much better chance that they DO have a line that they aren’t going to cross somewhere, because it bypasses sexy and goes into uncomfortable territory. Most people have some sort of standard of “I’ll do this, but not THAT”.

It’s when you start talking about these things in a group format that it starts getting more extreme, because groups are inevitably going to attract somebody who will always want to push a little farther. (Not to mention the people who show up because they actually get off on the idea of taboo itself.) So it’s much harder for a group to draw a definite line in the sand, because all members will be arguing for that line to be at a different place. And unfortunately, in order to preserve unity, most groups tend to just let that go.

 

[Sigma]

What I write is a mix of the research I've read, personal observations, previous discussions and the conclusions I've drawn from that. What part are you skeptical about? For some parts I have nothing better than "I've seen it and I think this is what it's like". For some parts, I can source the research. Obviously you find some parts contentious.

This is Deep Thought forum; what part do you find hard to even consider being true?

For extraordinary claims, I prefer actual proof rather than a guy saying " Dude, trust me". If I make fun of people, I like to know if it's warranted or not

 

[Lemmingwise]

For extraordinary claims, I prefer actual proof rather than a guy saying " Dude, trust me". If I make fun of people, I like to know if it's warranted or not

I'll try again: What claim do you find extraordinary?

I am satisfied with people not trusting the part that is personal experience; just throwing it out there means that the handful of people who seriously consider that it might be true, will sooner see it for what it is when they encounter it. As for the part that is sourcable and researchable; I could share that, but I still have no idea what part you find extraordinary.

 

[Sigma]

I'll try again: What claim do you find extraordinary?

I am satisfied with people not trusting the part that is personal experience; just throwing it out there means that the handful of people who seriously consider that it might be true, will sooner see it for what it is when they encounter it. As for the part that is sourcable and researchable; I could share that, but I still have no idea what part you find extraordinary.

The part about "naughty pictures with their niece", other more alleged extreme forms of that and the split between roles.